Life forms do not have an urge to live*. They have urges to do things that work toward in their successful reproduction before death, or in some cases, in the successful reproduction of other individuals who carry the same or similar genes. They do these things because of natural selection of genetic variation. Natural selection is a blind, automatic process that represents the result of variable survival of genetic variants. There is nothing driving anything. Organisms either reproduce or they don't. If there is genetic variation that makes some organisms more likely to reproduce, the favorable-to-reproduction variant will tend to be expressed more frequently in subsequent generations. That's all. *unless you are talking about life forms with the intelligence to consciously make the generalization that that is a thing they want.
There's no rational way to determine the age of the universe. Estimations as to how old it is are nothing but speculation without any evidence.
I wouldnt say without ANY evidence. There is evidence but you could say it's slim and inconclusive. That's why I said the universe "seems" to be about 13.7 billion years old. A number that has been revised several times already and is likely to be revised again.
this is where they get stuck, they can't believe everything always was, cause its too complicated, yet they can believe a much more complicated thing always was and that that thing created the everything .
Ah, God the sadistic controlling voyer! Everything is God's plan! You hear of cases sometimes where babies are forgotten in closed cars in the sun, and bake to death. Such a slow suffering death is what God chooses? To work out his purposes in his perfect plan? What excellent purpose of a loving God was served by this agonizing death? Was all the agony necessary? If the kid had to die, couldn't God at least have taken away the pain? What is the role of the pain in the plan? Do you start to see possible problems in the "God's Plan" idea?
Are fire and lighting magic? If your answer is no, please tell us why they are not magic. God of the gaps, God of the gaps, God of the gaps, God of the gaps, God of the gaps, God of the gaps, God of the gaps, God of the gaps. That is all religion is and ever will be. Attributing the super-natural to what we do not know or understand. There is no reason to do so. Ever. It is a none answer. Remember that thread you made complaining that this should be called the atheists forum and wondered why you got such negative feed back from them. . .yeah.
Yeppir: You seem to be one of those folk who don't pay attention to what they read, if in fact they read at all. In my comment to which you posted a response, the opening line read in relevant part "I believe that we are all actors on the stage of the Mind of God". In other words, we are merely subjective thoughts of God. Reality as we see it is nothing more than a subjective projection that surrounds us in the Mind of God. So, from my perspective, you are locked in a delusion of so-called material/physical embodiment. Good luck with that one.
Well, that's a relief. We're all virtual; nothing is real, nothing really matters. Strawberry Fields forever! Just wish some of the pain didn't feel so dang real, though.....
Seems to me that 'decay and entropy' would lead to a cessation of events as opposed to an evolution via events.
But how can anything be deceptive if nothing is real? There is no true or false in virtual reality. Of course you can't really live that way, thinking that. It would make normal behavior impossible. If you really think that 'virtual mind' thing at all, it must be a thought you use to defuse things when the world gets to awful--say, when a baby really does bake to death in a car. Then you put the idea away again and live more normally.
The fact that everything (living) must destroy and consume another living organism, just to survive, demonstrates the innate strive for greater efficiency. And opposes the philosophy of intelligent design, by happenstance.
The philosophy of intelligent design suggests a perfect harmony to the existence and survival of species. Yet no species survives without destroying another living species. That is not a design, that is chaos. We're vampires.
there is a new idea that maybe black holes are a universes way of procreating if this were true... evolution would favor universes that produce more black holes... therefor, more universes like ours who's physics allow black holes would be the norm, as the other universes that did not support the physics would not reproduce and would die off and not replenish themselves interesting idea I thought --- so to answer your question.. procreation drives evolution there once was a Christian sect that believed lifelong abstinence was what god wanted, that the punishment god gave the world could not end until there was no more childbirth, the sect has died out because they did not have children to pass this idea on too.. see how it works .
What? Our estimation of the age of the universe is based on evidence. We didn't just pull it out of thin air. Even if it turns out that our current estimation is way off (which is doubtful), your claim of "speculation without any evidence" would still be nonsense.
