I have decided never to attend a gay wedding as a wedding guest, however...

If it's two women, there's two of them.

 

You would never be forced to attend a gay wedding in Communist China...and your business would not be forced to do business with them.

Really- sounds like your kind of place.

 

Nobody was going to invite you anyway, I'm sure.

 

Oh good grief. First off you would never be invited to a gay wedding, gays are smart enough to know you hate them and I cannot even concieve of a gay person being friends with you.
One or two businesses being sued, oh my, out of all the businesses that support weddings what is the percentage, heck they cannot even get married in most states.
Stop whining about not being able to practice you religion, just remember that all choices in life can and often do come with a price. You can worship anyway you like but if you descriminate against others do not expect the government to do business with you since they represent All Americans and if you lose business than that was your choice. I seriously doubt you are in the business, in fact I know you are not, so this really is not a concern with you. But nice try as using as a way to get to your real point, that is the same old attempt to show how Christians are soooo persecuted in this Nation, funny thing I have not lost one religous right and am free to worship as I want. But by all means please feel free to point to the cross that you drag around willingly.

 

But in a marriage ceremony a bride marries a groom.

 

Casper, I do not have any gay friends but my son does.

He is 17-years-old and he lives the gay lifestyle, having sex with older gay lovers.

But I do not forbid my son from being friends with this boy.

So will you apologize for sterotyping me as some sort of gay-hating bigot?

I am sure you will not apologize, your kind never does.

My opposition to same-sex marriage is not based on animus against gays.

It is based on my notion that marriage is the foundation of our society, and it very dangerous to weaken and undermine it.

I am also against no-fault divorce laws, so I am consistent in defending marriage.

 

Did the florist advertise themselves as a Christian Florist? Did they in any way indicate that they were religious? That's the point, I think. I'm with you on the condition that you or whoever owns the business says that they are Christian -- I don't think that's a public accomadation situation, because you said that you're catering to Christians primarily.

I just would take issue if you pull a bait and switch by pretending that you aren't religious until you come across something you don't like. If Christianity isn't important enough to put on your signs, it's not important enough to use to deny a cake to gay guys. That's where my line is. Kosher shops that advertise as Jewish Kosher shops shouldn't have to sell pork. A muslim shop shouldn't be forced to carry Hussler. But if you're running a gas station as a non-religious gas station, you have to abide by the nondiscrimination laws.

 

The Bible says that ANYONE who is married can't get into heaven.

LUKE 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage

READ IT AND WEEP!!

 

Because you do not forbid your son from seeing his friend does not mean you do not hate gays. However, the words you used to describe your feelings in your OP do say you do otherwise your words would have been very different, we both know that so no I will not retrack my words, they are true. How does your OP defend hetrosexual marriage, whining that if you were in the business of marriages you might be forced to go there and drop off your product is not defending hetrosexual marriage. So you want people to go through hell to get divorced even though both partners want out, got it, forcing people that do not want to be married to remain married even though many have not even lived together for years is such a good Christian thing to do. Let me help your confusion, gay marriage does not deminish my hetrosexual marriage in the least bit, and I just celebrated 30 years together, of which 29 we have been married. Now if gays getting married deminishes yours then maybe the problem is not gays being married but some weakness within your own relationship that needs attention, if it is a strong marriage nothing can deminish it but those in the marriage. My kind? Hmmm, I like that, I have my own kind now, coooooool.

 

Yup that state has anti-bigot laws so you can't choose not to serve people in your business.

 

When a horse can enter into a contract of his or her own accord get back to me, until then statements like this so your anti-Christian bigoted hatred that basically is childish whining from someone who doesn't know what he is talking about.

 

Actually the ACLU has been a champion for religious freedom for Christians on many many occasions. why do you lie?

 

\Yet you liken it to bestiality.????? You call gays names? But you don't hate....? How about if you want to strengthen marriage...end drive by marriages. Let's see that rant.

 

Well if blasphemy is considered to be insulting God, and God creates marriage for the pleasure of a husband and a wife, then you take that marriage and turn it into homosexual marriage, considering that God calls homosexuality an abomination, I would say that you are spitting in the face of God...to me that is blasphemy.
Now for your information, Gods hatred of homosexuality (notice I wrote homosexuality, not homosexual ) is clearly stated several times in the Bible...
Leviticus 18:22
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin." (NLT)

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (NLT)

1 Timothy 1:8-10
Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine ... (ESV)

Jude 7
And don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God's judgment. (NIV)

I can easily come up with several more, now that being said the Bible also says that we should hate sin...(notice I said sin, not sinners)

Psalms 11:5 The Lord tests the righteous, But the wicked and the one who loves violence His soul hates. 6 Upon the wicked He will rain coals; Fire and brimstone and a burning wind [Shall] [be] the portion of their cup. 7 For the Lord [is] righteous, He loves righteousness; His countenance beholds the upright.

The Bible makes it ver clear throughout both the the old and new testament that homosexuality is sin, and in some scriptures God calls it an outright abomination. we also know that God hates sin and that no sinner shall enter the kingdom of heaven, so by supporting someone in their gay marriage I am basically playing a supporting role in signing their one way ticket to an eternity in hell. If I truly loved this person, I would muster up the strength to very lovingly but yet still boldly share with them Gods word and the consequences of their decissions.

 

Oh, did you start this topic because your friend asked you to come to their gay wedding? I'm just wondering because, well, with your attitude I guess they are now your ex-friend and now you're here to vent.

You make a lot of evil, going to hell references here. As a gay marriage supporter myself, you might think I hug demons before breakfast, but I don't care. I don't think it's real.

If you're in business you're also paying homage to money aren't you? What does your morals tell you about greed?

God's law? No. The Federal Government doesn't recognize marriage before God either, sorry.

The First Amendment also says we don't have to respect the establishment of Religion, actually it says that first, before the free exercise part.

Sorry, I never learned Chinese. Did you?

 

not participating in a gay wedding, in trades you don't practice is easy. the question is would you represent one of the parties in a gay divorce?

 

I think he's just bored and wants to talk with people.

 

there could be it it's two drag queens too.

 

Uh no, we are not claiming to be the victims in any way shape or form...what we are claiming is that we, as Christians that stand strong on the word of God, refuse to support, in any way, things that God calls sin and an outright abomination. lets reverse the situation about the bakery...lets say that my church was holding a conference called "homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord", and I went down to the local bakery, "2 fudge packers that love big nuts", and I asked them to make me a big cake with the words "All unrepentant homosexuals will burn in the fiery pits of hell", and they outright refused to make me that cake, should I have the right to sue the pants off them? because that is what is happening, in reverse, across America, and thats what we have a problem with.

 

Not in a same sex marriage, obviously.

 

Your right begins to where their right ends,
Nobody could force you and yo have your reasons within
your boundaries.

 

Well, you could sue them. Now probably the ones that would lose the case would be you, for being an intolerant group. But yeah you can try.

And let's change the case of gays to blacks. Because it is what you do. Pure discrimination. As always reactionaries have done during whole history.

 

I see, so when profit is involved, your lofty principles fly out the window. Nothing like a little hypocrisy, eh?

 

so you want the government to force people to stay married?

do you support the government telling a church who they can and can't marry based on racial or gender base recriminatory laws?