Oh. I was not aware that George Zimmerman was a law enforcement officer, having bestowed upon him the responsibility of stopping those whom he determined to be suspicious and in the employ of an agency tasked with enforcing the law. Was he? Or was he a private citizen?
Really? You wish that I assume. How would you like to be George Zimmerman now and for the rest of his life? He will always be looking over his shoulder. The civil case will make sure he never has anything owned in his name. He made a very bad decision when he didn't listen the 911 operator and got out of his car. He will be paying for it the rest of his life. He was not found guilty in criminal court, but he will never be found innocent in the eyes of many. Is it the right thing? Maybe not. But the same judicial system that found him not guilty, will soon be hearing a civil case against him. That does not take into account what the Feds may do.
See also: DOJ Determining Whether to File Federal Criminal Charges Against George Zimmerman July 14, 2013 WASHINGTON (AP) The Justice Department said Sunday it is looking into the shooting death of Trayvon Martin to determine whether federal prosecutors will file criminal civil rights charges now that George Zimmerman has been acquitted in the state case.
Nah you're wrong, here's the fat lady herself. She always sang God Bless America at the end of a program. If Irving Berlin wasn't Jewish it would have become our national anthem. Let's just say it was not a very tolerant era. At the end of the video you'll notice our greatest president ever, a young Ronald Reagan. [video=youtube;rEJo7x9y3D4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEJo7x9y3D4[/video]
He was not in a public place, he was in a private gated community and he had volunteered to protect that community, so it was his job just as much as it is the job of a guard at a bank or the place you work. He was doing what he was supposed to do. If the 911 operator told him not to get out of the car and to wait for the police, it was being said for Zimmerman's own protection, not for the protection of someone who looked suspicious to him. Many of the southern Florida communities are private and gated, and they are considering a law now to have the guards wear some sort of yellow jackets so they can be recognized. .
Oh, he volunteered. You see, you said he was doing his job, and I had assumed you meant that Zimmerman was a law enforcement officer. As for the balance of your posts towards me, I am not sure that I understand your point or how it pertains to my participation in the discussion.
He was a neighborhood watch guard. I live in an all white community. If some black guy in a hoodie that they show in all those robbery vids of convenience stores came at me after asking him what he was doing here in front of my house, he'd be full of bullet holes and he wouldn't have the chance to bash my gray old head onto the concrete.
I like the "Extreme Body Shock" rounds for my .357 mag. They don't ricochet (guaranteed) and kill a person with a single hit. If some black guy came into my all white town and came at me to fight, he would die. We have the right to defend ourselves against criminals, no matter how cute and sweet the media paints them. That Trayvon wasn't such a saint and he was beating the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of that Beaner.
What is the point of a court system if when a person is found not guilty that it simply means that he will be tried by another court and then another court until he is found guilty?
What you base your "aggressor" label on (simply following Martin) is standard, proper, Florida security policy set by the Florida Dept. of Agriculture & Consumer Services, Division of Licensing. Lots of luck.
How is Zimmerman a beaner? Does he farm beans? His father is European and his mother is Peruvian. How did he earn the monicker of beaner?
Yeah like that invidious racist discrimination of Affirmative Action in America. By far, the greatest amount of racial discrimination against the greatest number of people, for 50 years. Oh wait. That's the Whites who've been the victims. BTW "African-Americans" is a wrong term to describe Americans who happen to be BLACK. I know 4 guys who were born in Africa, and emigrated to the US -from Tanzania, South Africa, Botswana, and Rhodesia (now called "Zimbabwe"). All 4 are "African-Americans". All 4 are White.
Since Trayvon's family, along with the rest of the race hustler gang (Sharpton, Jackson, etc) put Zimmerman through a great deal of anguish and expense, at what turned out to be false charges, it would seem it should be Zimmerman who would be the doing the sueing, and raking the race rogues over the coals for everything they've got (while getting elected Governor of Florida).
1. What proof do you have that Zimmerman was not innocent ? The facts of start of the fight remain unknown. 2. Upon WHAT do you base the statement >> "but for the actions of George Zimmerman, Trayvon martin would be alive" Didn't Martin have 4 minutes, with which he could just have gone home ? 3. You don't think Zimmerman had any sort of right to try and intervene with someone walking ? HA HA HA. So you think a person is not entitled to walk up to someone and start talking to them ? If that were true, I guess I would've had my rights violated about 10 million times in my life then. EARTH TO TFM: You can walk up to someone and start talking to them. They can walk up to you and start talking to you. Trust me. It's OK. Go in peace, my son.
How could you say that Zimmerman violated Trayvon's civil rights ? WHAT rights ? Not by being a security person.
Maybe Zimmerman ought to open it. Well, maybe after we get rid of Obama and Holder. Trayvon did use a racial slur. Having been a minor, could his parents be held liable for that ?
Obviously, he has lost ALL of those that you mention, except maybe voting (by absentee ballot). You've got to be kidding.
No, not kidding. I would not argue for a second that George Zimmerman has not been exposed to the world as a bit of a loser, running around with a gun showing the world that he is just not that intelligent, a bit of a loser. But his civil rights do not appear to have been violated.
He was a private citizen with all the rights of walking to and talking to anyone of his choosing. Are you all right ?
How so? You mean he is in danger of retribution? Why would he be afraid? He has a gun. He followed a guy he thought was on drugs and up to no good. He was already paranoid. Nothing has changed.
IF there is a civil case against him, if it isn't laughed out of the building before it even gets started. If it doesn't, it will give Zimmerman the benefit of not having to file his own case, since he can just countersue on this one.