Do you suspect that natural cures for cancer are suppressed?

Citation needed. Please, tell us what you're using to determine this.

"Not enough incentive"? Ever heard the story of pacific yew bark? Or what about Aspirin? Hell, there are countless foundations pouring money into cancer research, not to mention that people have gotten Nobel Prizes for far, far less - there's plenty of "incentive" for people to do this, not just at universities but also commercially (not to mention that Burzynski has gotten embarrassingly rich off his cures). Oh, and there's an entire government agency wasting money double-checking (*)(*)(*)(*) that we know doesn't work - NCCAM.

I really don't know why you'd say this, when no-name cheap knockoffs of popular compounds are quite often approved...

 

What is embarrassingly rich? How much has he made exactly? And how does that number compare with how rich establishment doctors have gotten? Are they "embarrassingly rich" as well?

 

Yeah, how silly to think your body has a certain pH it should be at, and to be at a different pH would cause any health concerns. See that, everyone? Let your pH go to zero, let it go to 14. Stagnant declares your body pH doesn't matter!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

 

Nonsense. I have changed my body pH well over a point through diet and exercise. Please quit making (*)(*)(*)(*) up on the fly, it does nothing but show your stunning intolerance.

 

Well, he's living in a multimillion-dollar mansion. The point being that if you're looking at "who has to gain", you can't just look at the corporations, because Burzynski is rolling in it. He has a clear motivation, even if his cure doesn't work, to keep offering it.

 

No, I didn't say that. My statement was quite simply that body pH has very little to do with the development and treatment of cancers, because in virtually every location of your body, a significant change in tissue or blood pH would lead to extreme medical complications or death.

I'm making (*)(*)(*)(*) up on the fly by citing scientific articles and common medical knowledge? I'm sorry, I don't believe you for a minute. Put up or shut up. Maybe you changed your urine's pH, but last I checked, the number of cancers that involve your urine, or your saliva, or other things that a "high-alkali" diet would begin to effect are approximately... zero.

 

So one should be embarrassed they live in a multimilllion dollar mansion? Why? And in that respect, how is he any different from establishment medicine physicians whose cures don't work? I mean, you DO realize many people die after receiving establishment medicine "cures", don't you?

 

Tsk tsk, getting a little testy, are we? So tell me, what is a "high-alkalai" diet anyway? It's obvious you are spouting off, as things like water with lime juice actually increase your body's pH. It's a little more complicated than eating or drinking a lot of alkalai.

And why on Earth would you simply accept the conclusions of an industry, establishment medicine, that kills hundreds of thousands of people per year? That is hilarious that you would do so, especially given how these clowns are all in collusion with the FDA to make sure they are able to sell you poison. Hilarious stuff, your posting of and citing of the people killing Americans off each year. Absolutely HILARIOUS!!!!

Now common sense would dictate our body's pH should be at a certain level. Obviously, being outside of the correct range would likely cause health complications. By the same token, correcting one's pH level would help against whatever conditions an abnormal pH may cause.

This is pretty basic common sense stuff. For some reason though, you are huffing and puffing and trying to ignore simple common sense reality. Why is that?

Oh and by the way, obviously you don't know the best way to test your body's pH as a lay person at home. Obviously you aren't up to speed on the issue. As such, I suggest you do get up to speed so you are able to make an effective case.

Best of luck to you, it looks like you're going to need it.

 

"Your body's pH"? No. No, water with lime juice does not increase your body's pH. You have no understanding of the digestive system if you believe that.

And here I was thinking you had a brain. My mistake. I don't know why I bother at this point, honestly. If you genuinely believe this, then you're crazy - it's like debating geology with a flat-earther, who is convinced that the reason we don't know the earth is flat is a gigantic, international conspiracy. You do realize that most treatments advocated by the FDA are considered the gold standard pretty much all over the world, right? Is Japan in on it? Is BAYER medical oppressing the German government? Applying the thumbscrews to Sarkozy? And what about the insurers? Do you really think that the governments and insurance companies that actually pay for these treatments (because very few individuals have the funds to pay for them on their own) wouldn't have already cried foul at this?

"Kills hundreds of thousands of people per year". Evidence. Provide it please. You believe in a gigantic, international conspiracy theory? Put up or shut up.

Yes. In fact, each various part of the body has a certain pH level at which it should be in order to function, and if it falls outside of that particular range, you are liable to die. You have no idea what you're talking about, and your ignorance is encouraging people to hurt themselves.

Because what you claim about "common sense" goes beyond what actually is common sense. Yes, it's common sense that the body has certain pH levels in various places that are necessary for the various chemical reactions to take place uninhibited. What isn't common sense is that you can modify that by any means without inhibiting those aforementioned chemical reactions (the ones that keep you alive!). I'd call that common sense, but I don't care about common sense, because I don't have to care about common sense - there's extensive evidence that makes common sense utterly superfluous.

Okay, what's the best way to test your body's pH at home? Come on, tell me. Inquiring minds want to know. I'm sure you can find a way to measure the pH in your blood, in your stomach, in your intestines, in your bladder, in your kidneys, and in the countless other locations in your body with their own operational pH value. Also, while you're at it, what's your explanation for the real medical conditions known as acidosis and alkalosis that occur when blood pH rise or drop below safe levels? Lemme guess - big pharma conspiracy?

 

I don't think so, personally - that's the view of people like DennisTate. It's just worth noting, before you start bringing money politics into it, that Burzynski is pretty rich. Larger estate than some pharma CEOs.

You do realize that medicine is hard, right? And that discovering cures to serious diseases is often hit-or-miss, and that there's really only so much we can do with the tools we have? We're dealing with an incredibly complex biochemical organism - one which is widely but not entirely understood. Many people die after receiving establishment medicine cures. No (*)(*)(*)(*). This isn't news. What the cures offer are the best chances of success we have, demonstrated via extensive clinical testing. I mean, let's be clear here. If someone on anti-AIDS drugs dies, it's not the drugs that killed them - the drugs helped to suppress the illness and symptoms, because we don't have a functional, 100% cure. And neither does anyone else.

Serious time. Are you aware that "cancer" as a term describes over one hundred different conditions, with various compound causes? Are you aware that for each, we have to find a separate treatment (although we can often draw similarities as a place to start)? When you say something like this, you show that you have no idea about medicine. Yes, people die after receiving the best treatment available. But when talking about such treatments, it's rarely "you'll be cured within X amount of time". It's always "you have an X% chance of making it to 5 years, and a Y% chance of making it to 10 years". We understand the limitations of the treatments offered, but we also understand that it's what we currently have to work with.

 

It is obvious you do not have even a rudimentary understanding of what actually lowers your body's pH. A lot of water with lime and lemon juice was a critical part of increasing my body's pH. Clearly, you have done no research into which foods acidify the body. It is not as simple as simply eating higher pH foods to make one's body pH higher. Foods with acid do not necessarily decrease one's pH in the end.

Tell you what- it's really a waste of time to debate with someone who has so clearly demonstrated a lack of even the most basic levels of discussing body pH as it relates to health. If you ever get up to speed on the issue, let me know. Until then, it is obvious you are simply lashing out at that which you simply don't understand and/or are ignorant of.

All this said, it's been fun watching you flail around on body pH. First you kinda said body pH doesn't matter. Now you concede maybe it does. But you've decided to dig your heels in and declare that while maybe body pH matters, there's no way it has any relevance whatsoever to cancer!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!

 

So, basically, I cite scientific medical sources and you cite (*)(*)(*)(*)ing nothing and somehow I'm the clueless one. I will maintain that basic knowledge of medicine and either an eye for evidence or even just basic common sense would indicate that changing the pH of various parts of your body outside of very specific parameters would lead to serious harm or death. Hell, I even cited two explicit clinical conditions dealing with exactly that. And yet, I'm clueless. I'm reminded of the "courtier's reply" line or argumentation, in which someone who points out that the emperor has no clothes is attacked by critics who claim that he doesn't have the necessary understanding of fabrics to make the claim. To paraphrase:

This applies because I don't need to know about which foods or minerals supposedly "change body pH". Because if you actually did manage to get your blood, as you put it, "a point higher", you would die as a result. The emperor has no clothes.

By the way, you still haven't answered my question - how do you test your body pH at home? Lemme guess - you urinate on a strip?

 

Nope, I said it didn't matter for cancer in the way it was implied.

Nope, I said that it has a very clear effect on how your body functions.

Which is accurate.

One more time. How do you test your body pH? Because until you tell me, I'm going to assume you do it by urinating on a test strip. Which is like trying to get a reading on the pH of a drug solution by measuring the pH of the chemical by-products thrown out during its development.

 

Ace there is no cure that wil work 100% of the time for every patient sick with any given disease. We've got highly succesful cures for the easy stuff which is to say bacterial diseases, that's why almost no one dies of bubonic plague, cholera and typhoid among many others any more. Hell we couldn't even see a virus until the invention of the electron microscope and there is still a lot more that we don't know about most of them than there is that we do know.

If there was actually Justice in this counry Burzinsky would be doing large amounts of time in jail for Fraud.

 

I still think it's hilarious that AceFrehley claims I'm clueless, but then refuses to state how he measures his body pH. This leaves me to assume the typical "measure the pH of your urine" method, which is completely flawed and doesn't actually give you the pH of your body, but rather the pH of your urine - a waste product of your body.

 

I knew someone who was suffering from cancer , was a middle aged female , married and had 2 small children . Cancer was moving very quickly in her body , there was no hope for her . We wanted to help her but were not sure what we will do . Someone came to our mind who was an outlaw person that prepares natural cures for diseases in return very high fees . For example the desired price for a cure is about 10.000 Dollar , and for one use only . We talked with this person with a polite way and we have received this cure for free . The woman used this cure for 5 months . She went to each control body also seemed to be clean , cancer completely disappeared . She completely returned to normal life . She wanted to go on holiday with her family after this tiring process of treatment . The bad news came here , she passed away during holiday . Cause of death in the medical reports was "excessive water loss" .

 

This fits well with a caution that I got in a phone call regarding using baking soda and molasses for too long. It can cause the body to get rid of trace minerals that the body does in fact need.......which I suppose could lead to dehydration?????!!!

Very interesting though that that remedy did seem to help her tumors!

 

After I had my nasty reaction to the pain killer that I was given after my hernia operation I began a period of juice/coffee/honey/water fasting in order to cleanse all of the drug out of my body that I was reacting to.

I am on the 24th day in which I stuck to juices and such for eleven days so far. I really am feeling good. One friend of mine who also fasts said that he read that during juice fasts the human growth hormone goes to higher levels........which could play a huge role in why juice fasts can cause us to feel so much better.

Back in the "80's a good friend who is a nutritional medicine practitioner got many of us to do a lemonade fast.....real lemons.....cayene pepper......maple syrup....mix it up so that you like the taste and live on this for eight to ten days or more. Drink as much as you want to keep your energy level high. It is amazing how much better I personally felt after doing that ....and it is also amzing how good I felt even after having had no solid food for seven or eight days????!!!!

I was recently told about coffee with honey......which sure comes in handy if I have to drive during a fast!!!

 

Actually....the lemonade fast that I mention in the post just above can also be done with lime juice!!!!

I can't explain why or how it works......but one explanation I got was that nutritional medicine depends on two things......cleansing and building........a lemonade fast is an amazing cleansing diet. I find that by doing three days/week....as is convenient.....I hardly even notice any inconvenience!!!!

 

What kind of moron would suppress a treatment for something they themselves have a good chance of dying from?

 

This pretty much sums it up.

 

Interesting stuff. I have been thinking about doing a fast recently and doing a little reading on it. I have seen a lot on juice fasting. I was thinking about a green veggie smoothie fast. At one point looking around, I ended up on WebMd. A staffer there was hilarious, warning about the possible side effects and symptoms from fasting. It read about like the list of possible side effects from the toxic medicines establishment medicine pushes on people.

In the end, we all know people have fasted for various reasons for millenia. But no, the people who want us to take toxins into our body say fasting is evil, and we should stick with their toxins for real health.

Laughable.

 

Yup.....good summary!!!!!

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/041377_farmers_GMO_food_survey.html#ixzz2aHez649k

 

I found out a little more on it here:


http://themastercleanse.org/

 

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