As Christianity wanes, immoral behavior increases

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  1. Prof_Sarcastic

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    Is that transparent attempt at misdirection the best you've got?
     
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    It's easy to misunderstand Denmark's religious population. It wasn't so very long ago that it was over 90% Christian, and religious ceremonies are still very popular at weddings and funerals. But it is certainly among the most secular governments in the world, and religion is declining quickly there. Also, polls vary widely and use diverging terminology, with some reporting as little as "under 10% atheist", and others claiming up to "80% do not believe in a god". The truth is somewhere in between and I'm sure religious people would claim that those who do not believe in a personal god but do believe in spiritualism, to be in their camp.
     
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    Christians have been the main reason we are having big problems.
    When Christians slander "nature's God", Jesus Christ, as a liar, and preach Talmudic doctrine, they make the world drunk.

    Any Christian that teaches eternal life in some hell, is preaching that the serpent in the Garden of Eden was telling the truth when he said,
    "Ye shall not surely die."

    Christ said, "Ye shall surely die." and "The wages of sin are death."
     
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    Please give me some examples of what you mean by immoral behavior.

    It seems very hard for me to contribute to this discussion, since you are not being specific enough. Please elaborate on what you mean by immoral behaviors.
     
  5. DarkDaimon

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    So how much is too much immoral behavior? What behavior is considered immoral? If the influence of Christianity is important to the lifespan and health of a civilization, why did the Roman Empire collapse AFTER Christianity became the state religion?
     
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    Blackrock must be trolling, no individual could be this obtuse.
     
  7. septimine

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    Except that Denmark isn't really like that at all. Most people in Denmark are "cultural Christians" meaning that they remain officially Christian even though they don't actually believe in God at all.

    http://kriswager.blogspot.com/2009/03/religion-in-denmark-and-sweden.html
     
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    I used to think the same thing, then I found politicalforum.com.

    It is astounding the absolute insane BS things people believe - usually in spite of facts/evidence to the contrary.
     
  9. Vicariously I

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    I find irony in nearly every thread you create. You have said or asked more than once why it is Atheists care so much about a God they don't believe in. You wonder why we concern ourselves with religion and then you proceed to answer that very question with the threads you create. Millions of people who are literally ignorant of reality because they are blinded by a "truth" founded on faith based beliefs participating in our public discourse is a major problem and it is no more apparent than here in America. Anyone’s ignorance is dangerous but when that ignorance is born of religious dogma the danger is palpable.
     
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    As I have post time and time again here, throughout the years, breakdown of the Family by young people having bastards out-of-wedlock builds up the criminal element history calls the Barbarians within the gates.
    Welfare has paid for this enemy inside every major metropolis that will demand more and more as their numbers grow.
    When the free food stamps and monthly checks do not come, they will rise up as they always have, i.e. French Revolution, Rome, etc.

    The cost of Welfare is now over $1 Trillion dollars a year.
    That is more than the Bail Out of 2008.
    That is more than the Military Budget.

    What is also happening is that money is supporting the South American Drug Cartels who now have joined together with Iranians in the designated mutually beneficial effort to buy/force local governments to serve their interests.
     
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    Only if you consider Social Security and Medicare to be "Welfare" which most people don't.
     
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    If Americans hadn't engaged in generations of ethnic job discrimination maybe there wouldn't be so many people on welfare and social programs.

    What is it about living in modern America that drives so many people to use street drugs in order to cope?
     
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    While almost everything you said here is false it also shows you aren't at all aware of reality
     
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    Once a person has believed noahs ark, what challenge could be too great?
     
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    And yet crime, in virtually every category, is at, or very near, all time lows. Perhaps your thesis is flawed?
     
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    Every self-appointed moralist believes THEY are living in "the worst era of immorality ever".
     
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    Oh, and that there is nothing wrong with THEM and their perfect morality.

    The more they talk about sin and degeneration, the more you know
    they are just projecting their inner demons.
    Apparently either this source doesnt know or doesnt care that continuously spreading falsehoods does not count as being moral anywhere or any time.

    A bit of thoughtful insight is recommended, rather than this unattractive gut-spilling.
     
  19. OhZone

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    Christianity had a very immoral beginning.
    It was their orgies and subsequent epidemic of STD's that led to the practice of celibacy among the priests.
    Look at some of the decorations on those old cathedrals.
    http://www.beyond-the-pale.org.uk/satan1.htm
     
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    Good thing we have antibiotics now, we can have orgies without worry! And that's good, because we like orgies!!
     
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    The idea that fear of hell in Denmark is widespread is the most hilarious crap I have ever seen. in Denmark only 28% of people (by 2010 survey) beleive in God. Of those most belong to the Lutheran church of Denmark a liberal; church that has female preists and openly gay clergy. You have never been to Denmark, clearly. or norway, Sweden, Iceland , New Zealand or any of the other most uncorrupt states. The USA is shamelessly below chile in corruption.

    It is quite clear that the most religious countries are the most corrupt and the least religious are the least corrupt.
     
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    Christianity isn't the only source to draw values from. I converted to Buddhism because the values are followed more closely than Christians I have encountered follow the beliefs the espouse. Christians that I have encountered are driven by blind faith and intolerance. All but a few Christians think that my choice to give up Christianity for Buddhism was a choice that wouldn't get me sent to hell. I don't believe in hell for the record, I believe in reincarnation. If people based their values on a different religion, like Buddhism, the degradation can be stopped or if we teach ethics and non religious morals in schools. There are ways, people just need to be open to the idea that teaching morals and ethics don't need to be rooted in religion. They can be taught in a non religious manner and leave it to the family to teach religious values. I'm not calling you intolerant, I don't know you personally.
     
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    I'm an atheist with Buddhist ethics
     
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    Exactly, we see proof of this in the newspapers. 50 years ago the big problems in school were running in the halls, talking in class, chewing gum, etc., now they are beating each other up, having drugs, getting pregnant, etc. This isn't going to be pretty. As one of the Founders said, our form of government is made for a moral and religious people, and is wholly inadequate for any other.
     
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    Want to provide some evidence for that assertion?
     

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