lol I like it when my opponents have a sense of humor. It makes me smile. =) - - - Updated - - - I love the rain. I wish it would rain more here. =(
Lies from the Huffington Post. Why would they lie, they are a liberal news source. LMAO But I guess if I posted something from FOX, you would be all over that. Right? Editing the video? So she fixed the phone conversations that they obtained? Why most those people on the tapes got fired from PP. Why? Why would they do that to people who were innocent? They wouldn't. - - - Updated - - - Only the Huffington Post edited out what they wanted to..to slant the news.
did they ... why not download the actual full video footage from here - http://www.liveaction.org/gendercide/ like I did and compare it to the transcript provided, you will find that the transcript is word for word of the full footage .. kind of blows the assertion that "The Huffington Post edited out what they wanted to..to slant the news" right off the planet.
This from Wiki.........on Rose. Notice nothing about her work not being legitimate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lila_Rose "In 2007, Rose, through her organization Live Action, released recordings of Planned Parenthood staff, including directors of development in Idaho and New Mexico, accepting racist donations specifically intended for abortions of African-American children.[13]" "Another investigation, called the Mona Lisa Project, involved Rose posing as a 13-year-old minor impregnated by a 31-year-old man. In a video recorded at a Bloomington, Indiana Planned Parenthood facility,[14] when told that she will need parental consent and must name the father, Rose balks. At first, the Planned Parenthood staffer says that the crime must be reported to Child Protective Services, but after a moment of silence, she says, "Okay, I didn't hear the age. I don't want to know the age. It could be reported as rape. And that's child abuse." Also in the Mona Lisa Project, Rose shot an undercover video at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Birmingham, Alabama[15] that resulted in the state placing the clinic on probation for a year.[16][17]" Wow...had this all been lies...the state would not have taken action. "In February 2011, Rose released undercover videos from Planned Parenthood facilities in several cities. These show an unidentified man and woman posing as a pimp and a prostitute, soliciting advice from Planned Parenthood staff on how to procure abortions and birth control for underage sex workers whom the pimp manages.[18][19] Rose said that the videos proved that Planned Parenthood intentionally breaks laws and covers up abuse.[20] In response to the videos, Planned Parenthood claimed to have reported the incidents to the FBI[21] but also stated that over 11,000 staffers "who have contact with patients and teens" would be "retrained."[22]" But they decided to retrain staffers, why? LMAO Rose wanted them to prosecute..and guess who ditched that idea? Eric Holder...pro-abort. Rose is still pursuing this. But even in this her work was not debunked...they said they just needed an actual case. "In May 2012, Rose released a series of videos showing employees at Planned Parenthood and NAF abortion centers advising patients on how to procure sex-selective abortions. The undercover investigator posed as a pregnant mother seeking an abortion on the grounds that her child was female, whereas she preferred a male. After the first video (captured in Austin, TX)[25] was released, Planned Parenthood denied supporting sex-selective elective abortion and fired the employee featured in the tape. [1] Similar footage from Planned Parenthood locations in Mali and Honolulu, Hawaii[26] - including a counselor's advice on how to fund a sex-selective abortion with state tax money - elicited no subsequent response from the organization." Another release showed employees at two Arizona abortion facilities - Camelback Family Planning in Phoenix and the Tucson Women's Center in Tucson - instructing the investigator to suppress her reason for seeking the abortion. After hearing that the investigator desires to abort her fetus for being female, the Phoenix counselor tells her, "Don't let it be known!," while the surgical assistant in Tucson says, "I'll just forget about it ... but just be sure not to mention it" to the abortion doctor. Sex-selective abortion is illegal in Arizona.[27] Neither the two taped clinics nor the NAF took any action following the release." And one employee got fired. Why? "In the Spring of 2013, Rose released a series of undercover videos documenting late-term abortion doctors' stated policy toward children born alive as the result of a failed abortion attempt.[28] The video release coincided with intense media scrutiny of the ongoing Kermit Gosnell murder trial. These include a video where Cesare Santangelo, a Washington, D.C. abortion doctor, admits that he would let a child die if born alive during an abortion:[29][30] "Technically you know, legally we would be obligated to help it, you know, to survive. But, you know, it probably wouldnt. Its all in how vigorously you do things to help a fetus survive at this point," Santangelo tells the undercover activist working for the pro-life group Live Action. "Lets say you went into labor, the membranes ruptured, and you delivered before we got to the termination part of the procedure here, you know? Then we would do things we would we would not help it. We wouldnt intubate. It would be, you know, uh, a person, a terminal person in the hospital, lets say, that had cancer, you know? You wouldnt do any extra procedures to help that person survive. Like do not resuscitate orders. We would do the same things here. This doctor said what he said...it is on tape. But opponents said Live Actions edited it in an unfair manner. Well of course they would say this, nothing surprising about this. It was done to get the truth and they got it. And yes they did embarrass a doctor and clinic. So what? The fact is..... "Live Action includes raw footage with every video release." They got him......in his own words. 'On Thursday, May 23, 2013, U.S. Representative Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) showed Live Action's Arizona video from the Inhuman campaign as support for HR 1797, the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act, which would ban the majority of abortions after 20 weeks (five months) throughout the United States.[32] The bill eventually passed in the House, by a vote of 228 to 196,[33] and now awaits consideration in the Senate." This video if it was false and full of error never would have made it this far. Her work has broken down walls and has exposed PP for what it really is. If she was a fraud...she never would have been given this.... "In July 2013, National Journal included Rose in their list of "The 25 Most Influential Washington Women Under 35." [40]" Huffington can say whatever it wants, its a liberal cess pool of people who want abortion legal.... but it would not be true it would be biased.
Can I ask why you don't actually review the uncut video directly from Live Actions own web-site against the transcript produced by HP and see IF there are any discrepancies, and then address the OP & the posts, because the above has little to do with the discussion going on. It really isn't relevant how lorded she is, still doesn't mean that she hasn't edited videos to suit her agenda as amply proven numerous times.
Because I have done that already and think its a coverup...another attack on what Rose did. Why don't you address what Wiki did not say about Rose? SAys nothing about what she exposed was not true.....NOTHING.
so did you find any discrepancies between the actual total footage and the transcript? Thing with Wiki is that anybody can write it, not as reliable as a direct comparison between the footage and the transcript .. hmm maybe I'll go onto Wiki myself and just update the information to include all the videos that have been proven to be misrepresentation.
Here's some for your list: http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/04/24/updated-who-is-lila-rose/184170 Rose Repeatedly Smeared Planned Parenthood With Hoax Videos And False Claims Rose Claimed She Caught Planned Parenthood Covering Up Child Sex Trafficking -- She Didn't. In February 2011, Rose and Live Action released a series of videos claiming to expose "Planned Parenthood's cover-up of child sex trafficking." But the videos released by Live Action failed to prove the charge. To the contrary, at least two weeks before Live Action released the first video, Planned Parenthood reported a "potential multistate sex trafficking ring" to the FBI. [Media Matters, 2/1/11; 2/22/11] Rose Falsely Claimed Planned Parenthood Lied About Providing Mammograms. In March 2011, Rose promoted a video falsely claiming to catch Planned Parenthood lying about the organization's work providing patients with access to cancer screenings, including mammograms. The comments Rose highlighted did not contradict the undisputed fact that Planned Parenthood provides patients with access to these services. [Media Matters, 3/30/11] Rose Launched False Attack On Planned Parenthood And Indiana Law. In June 2011, Rose accused Planned Parenthood of lying about the effects of an Indiana law which would withhold Medicaid funding from Planned Parenthood. In reality, the video failed to prove that Planned Parenthood was lying and actually showed that its concerns about the law were accurate: a Planned Parenthood worker in Indiana said in the video that because of the "new law," a Medicaid recipient cannot get preventive care at Planned Parenthood. [Media Matters, 6/29/11] Rose Falsehood: Abortion Is How Indiana Planned Parenthood "Makes Money." During an appearance on Fox News, Rose claimed that abortions are "how [Planned Parenthood] makes money" in Indiana. In reality, abortions account for 3.56 percent of Planned Parenthood of Indiana's total services and abortions account for only about 16 percent of Planned Parenthood of Indiana's revenue. [Media Matters, 6/30/11] Rose: Planned Parenthood Using Breast Cancer As a "Front" To Garner "Public Funding For An Abortion Business." During a February 3 appearance on CNN contributor Dana Loesch's radio show, Rose accused Planned Parenthood of using "an issue like breast cancer, which has hurt so many American women, they're using this issue as a front to get -- garner public support and public funding for an abortion business." [KFTK, The Dana Show, 2/3/12] Rose And James O'Keefe Collaborated To Get Planned Parenthood Staff To Agree That There Are "Too Many Black People"
Totally biased and from a biased source. Find me some credible government source that says she did what you claim.
Find a credible government source that says Planned Parenthood did what Lila Rose claims. Do you not think Lila Rose is biased?
Why would PP fire its workers after what she exposed? Why would they retrain everyone? Why were they put on probation for one year after being exposed? Come on face facts, they messed up. - - - Updated - - - So you think killing a nine month old in the womb for no reason is ok? It's moral and ethical?
Urm .. because they broke the rules, just as any person could be fired for what could be seen as gross misconduct in any business. Did the re-train everyone, all ~25,000 of it's employes and volunteers or just those who obviously had training lacking. One clinic does not mean ALL clinics, it would seem to me that the like of Liar .. sorry Lila Rose make assumptions but they have nothing of relevance to back it up. That's like saying that if one local part of the NRA is dong something wrong then the whole of the NRA MUST be doing it wrong .. implausible to say the least. Sure they did and they admitted they did and took steps to rectify the problems .. however that doesn't get Miss Rose of the hook for the videos her Live Action have produced that have been proven to be blatant misrepresentation of what actually occurred. The difference between what Live Action & NARAL are doing is that Live Action set the whole thing up in order to try and trap PP people into saying something wrong, NARAL just go in and let the CPC personal talk, there is no set-up involved and as has been shown the vast majority of the information CPC's give is just wrong. on another note .. did you find any discrepancies between the actual total footage and the transcript, after you reviewed them?
How many workers were fired? How many workers does Planned Parenthood employ nationwide? Every company is occasionally forced to fire employees, especially one as large as Planned Parenthood. The fact remains, her tapes were edited, her partner O'Keefe is a convicted felon, and she IS definitely biased. From Alternet:
Answering a question with another question. Address the questions. - - - Updated - - - Well hey it's a step...you admitted PP did wrong. Miss Rose exposed them.
no actually I didn't, read what I wrote .. ONE clinic made mistakes, a clinic that was dealt with by the parent company, would you expect anything else from another company if one of their places had been shown to be lacking? You keep saying them .. them is plural, and you failed to bother to respond to the rest of my comment. Still waiting for that list of discrepancies between the video and the transcript, or are you now prepared to admit there is no differences between the two and therefore the edited video is misrepresentation of the actual conversation.
