~ MOD ALERT ~ Why is Pro-Life seen as Anti-Woman?

That makes no sense. Abortion is not a free license to kill. Edit ~ http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=321951&p=1063142614#post1063142614

Abortion is the right to kill a fetus that is inside you. What dont you understand?

 

And those who "want women to be able to kill the life in their wombs are basically pagan? You do not have to be religious or believe in God...to know that taking a innocent life in the womb is wrong. This is what the "people who want abortion legal so women can have the option of killing the life inside them" don't get.

Hard core lifers....ya mean all those who respect and want to allow lives to be born, those people?

If what you say is true in such a radical assessment of lifers....the opposite would be true for those who are radically on the LEFT....they want to elevate women to a position like no man even has...one who can kill to solve any societal problem. Kill male babies, kill gay babies, kill poor babies, black babies....kill just to kill.
In this sense....they have more power than anyone on earth.

You attack the males on this forum which is against the rules...."You only have to look at the vitriol spewed from the mouths of many men on this website".....
Afraid to call them by name to get away with it....eh?

The fact is women have sexual freedom....they can have sex or they don't have to have sex. They can have gay sex....group sex.....anal sex.....oral sex......any sex they want....even if its dangerous. They have choices...they can adopt out their baby....have the baby....or kill the baby. What choice don't they have? Oh wait...they can't kill legally if they are beyond 24 weeks...unless then they can come up with an excuse and dupe the doctor into thinking they are dying. So I would say...they don't have total choice...what a shame. I would think all the people who want abortion legal...so they could choose....would be working hard to make that also a reality...because as of today abortion laws enslave a woman according to " all the people who want abortion legal so women can kill the life inside them."

Why arent you standing up for the rights of all women...the ones who want to kill after viability?

 

Abortion is killing a living human being. Or isn't it living? LMAO

No abortionist would be needed if it was not living...right? I mean you have to agree to that don't you?

Today abortion laws restrict, tie the hands of the woman who want to kill their babies. If you think all women should be able to have choice.....then how can these restrictions on them...be ok?

Most here on your side believe that women should be able to kill throughout the entire pregnancy...for no reason other than its their choice. But what about the others that want to deny women choice....the ones who think abortion should be legal to kill but ONLY until 18-22-24-28 ????? weeks? Don't they enslave the woman who want to have choice?

So abortion is a free license to kill until 24 weeks....and then the laws take the womans rights away. Do you think this is ok? Why arent' people who don't want restrictions working hard to change the law...to allow for choice. Why are they content to sit back and allow our government to enslave the woman?

 

Ok. How is it wrong? Can you tell me why?

No, those nutters that want to impose their backward nonsensical ideology on everyone else.

Dont change the subject please, this is off topic.

Off topic. Go read Nietzsche if you want to talk about power - this thread is about anti-woman sentiment in the pro-life movement.

If I mention their names they will go cry to admin, yes.

What about double penetration?

So woman are never dying, right? Pathetic.

Well thats fairly empowering enslavement that I am all for. As for the pro-life movement, it is often anti-woman in its character. I think your above assertion that no women could be dying is a good example of that prejudice.

I am

 

Of course its living. So what?

I have never once said a fetus was not alive. You are laughing at your own ignorance. Also there is no such thing as an abortionist - its called a doctor.

Which restrictions specifically?

Yes they unfairly take away their freedom.

YES I THINK IT IS PERFECTLY FINE - WHY WOULDNT IT BE?

They are.

Theyre not content.

 

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No it is killing a fetus and that is not a human being just human by taxonomy.

Yes so?

 

LMAO

No such thing as an abortionist? Oh I can't comment on this hysterical comment. It was funny however. Why don't you google...the term see what comes up. Better yet look the term up in any dictionary.

So your entire post was contradictory. I will show you why.

I said........"Today abortion laws restrict, tie the hands of the woman who want to kill their babies. If you think all women should be able to have choice.....then how can these restrictions on them...be ok?"
You said....."Yes they unfairly take away their freedom." You used unfairly...meaning they should not be able to take away womens rights.

THEN YOU SAID......."YES I THINK IT IS PERFECTLY FINE - WHY WOULDNT IT BE?" to my comment...So abortion is a free license to kill until 24 weeks....and then the laws take the womans rights away. Do you think this is ok?"

You need to figure out your own position because you are saying two things. They should have the right to kill throughout the entire nine months......but restrictions are ok.

LMAO

 

Is killing a nine month old living human in the womb...a fetus?

 

You dont seem to be able to follow me. Here's my position laid out for you, knowing how incapable of debate you are, I'll expect you to run away now: any women should be able to kill her fetus at ANY time.

What is wrong with the right of women to kill living human fetuses that are their own?

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I think it is. Why do you keep asking?

 

Why do you have to pervert everything?
The topic is abortion, elective legal abortion to be more precise. Nobody kills nine month old fetuses as elective abortion, so why lie?

 

Can you provide evidence that has EVER happened?

 

ARE you denying women have gotten late term abortions at nine month?

 

Late term abortions happen all the time.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/abortion-doctors-charged-murder

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/abortion-doctor-found-tk-murder-article-1.1342672

 

Can you please respond to my question. And no late term abortions are the fewest of the lot and are almost always conducted in extreme cases, ie the fetus threatens the mother's life etc. But so what? There is nothing wrong with killing a fetus at any point in a pregnancy.

 

Why do you try to justify killing a fully grown, developed, and viable fetus? And you think that it's just a "woman's right"? Abortion is one thing, but trying to justify aborting a fully grown baby is a totally different story. You people are so empty inside that you can't even realize that it's wrong.

 

So there IS a difference between a first or second trimester zef and a 9 mo.fetus? Thanks for that admission, finally.

 

Why not? A fetus has no interest in being alive. Simple.

Yes, which arises out of the fact the fetus has no interest in being alive at any stage of being a fetus.

Is it? Why is that?

Ok, so help me realize why it is wrong. Seriously. Tell me why if you are so ardently sure I'm wrong.

Also what do you mean by "empty"?

I except you probably wont respond either. Unfortunate, but to be expected.

 

What an idiotic comment. States already have laws that preclude full-term abortions (once the fetus is viable), except in the case of risk to the life of the mother. How come most of the people arguing against abortion are so ignorant of the facts?

 

Simple, they deny the facts of the matter because focusing on late-term abortions gives them more emotional appeal and impact to the people who may not have a full understanding of the issue.

 

If I say that men who cheat on their wives are trash, does that make me a sexist?

 

This is the post you were defending:

 

Basically because most of those who are pro-lifers care little about the foetus and a LOT about

A) putting someone else down (just look through the threads to see the belief surrounding women who having abortions
b) feeling "superior" to "those women"
c) controlling "if women don't want to have abortions they should not have sex

etc etc etc

Rarely would you see a post celebrating the advent of good birth control or calling for more male responsibility in preventing pregnancy in the first place

 

Why do you think that is what happens?