Conservatives: Explain to me why you dislike Christie

Well you guys haven't been doing very good lately at the national level.

 

Man. I keep agreeing with everything you have posted in this thread so far...... And its starting to scare me.....

 

You don't win elections by running candidates who appeal to the people who have views that are opposite of your own. That's how you lose elections. It's also why congress has an approval rating of -20

 

The boost though ONLY came from hyperconservatives. Palin destroyed ANY chance that McCain had of winning the middle and the independents. I was actually considering voting for McCain. But once PAlin was announced, and I learned about her, it was simply a no brainer. There was just no way in my mind that I could vote to put someone like her only a heartbeat away from the president. McCain got a boost among a very specific crowed. But he lost overall appeal among every other group.

 

This isn't a GOP political battle. The ACA is a trainwreck, and going to harm the people and the economy at a very critical time. I didn't invite the GOP, they are just correct, and we need this crushed desperately... which is why you want Christie... you know there is NO chance he will do that. The ACA will dig its tentacles in deeper for at least 4 years while he sits in the back seat, at the wheel, pretending he is driving.

 

Everything you referenced above also equally applies to Joseph Lieberman in a party equivalent manner. So why did the Left turn on Senator Lieberman, forcing him to go from lifetime Democrat to independent? It happens primarily for ideological reasons; a fact that you very well know. So in this case, why ask why?

 

Correction, Christy is a social moderate which is exactly where the R party needs to go. You would most likely snag us libertarians if you did.

Christy, while not perfect, is the best choice for politics IMO. Fiscal conservative, social moderate. If he came out and said "legalize marijuana for tax purposes" I think he would easily win the pres in 2016, well see....

Are you righties really that pissed off that he did everything possible for his people during a disaster? I don't care if he had to give Obama a foot massage, if it helped his people he should have absolutely done it. If you want to blame something for Obamas numbers blame the damn storm, not the guy who did everything he could to fix it.

 

Outside of Clinton and Obama, how many Democrats have won two elections in a row in the last fifty years? I don't think the two sides are that far apart.

 

And I suggest the issue isn't that conservatives didn't do enough listening to liberal advice on how to be more appealing to a nation that consistently polls conservative.

I also suggest many people have their head filled with liberal ideas of what a conservative is.

 

Congress has an approval rating of -20 because of hyper conservative whackos obstructing everything in Washington because they can't get over Obama.

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And you are consistently wrong. The nation does not poll conservative anymore, sorry.

 

What makes me laugh so hard sometimes, is that these same people who, to this day hold Reagan up as some conservative hero, would boo him on stage today in a republican primary for being to moderate.

 

Can you think of all the promises Obama made to us to get elected and how many he kept? I guess if he promises everyone everything and doesn't deliver on most of them Democrats are ok with that, as long as they win.

 

Correction. Socially liberal is where conservatives need to go, which can happen if you pull government out of regulating our lives and liberties. Fiscally conservative is the direction you both need to go. Defend to the death the constitutional rights bestowed on you. This party already exists. It is called the libertarian party.

 

Are you stating that the current GOP is no longer a Conservative Party?

 

I didn't look at Reagan as a Conservative hero. I looked up to him as a man that saw problems and went after them no matter what anyone thought. He toes nobody's line.

 

I am not a conservative except in relation to being to the right of most blind apologist liberals, but they are apples and oranges. Christie has the power of the incumbancy; Christie is the left-leaning MSM poster boy of a "real" conservative while Cucinelli is the MSM whipping boy; Cucinelli is being out spent by huge margins, undoubtedly because he dared to challenge Obamacare in court; NJ is a more violet state whereas VA is more a polarized state where the blues outnumber the reds but reds cover more territory.

Christie isn't going to be the GOP nominee. Christie is the republican the left is trying to push on the right because the left knows he can't win.

 

Is there anyone on this board that believes everything their Party stands for? I sure don't. I don't know one Party I could.

 

If the thought of a President Palin does not scare you there is a serious problem with your brain.

 

You're so on point with everything you said.. If they embraced this guy there would be a lot of independent voters who would jump on board.

 

Just because it's good for him to be socially liberal in New Jersey doesn't mean that's a sound national strategy for the next GOP candidate. Since when do New Jersey values reflect the values of the GOP's national voter base? Answer, never.

 

I think you are failing to see that the GOP's national voter base is precisely why it will be so hard for the GOP to win a national election.

 

I agree with you for the most part. Except the Democrats didn't have to lie. Romney made it unnecessary.

 

Lets do some math... socially conservative areas in the country are what... 20% of the total population? Something isn't checking out. Christie knows what it takes to win in an overly blue state. Republicans should take note rather than just accepting that New York, Maryland, NJ, West coast, and Massachusettes are completely out of reach. That is just too many votes to (*)(*)(*)(*) away.

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Conservatives don't understand math, logic, or science.

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I consider myself a liberal, but I like Christie more than Clinton for sure in 2016. I am extremely socially liberal.. but tend to favor fiscal conservatism. That is the view of most independent voters in this country.

 

I agree Christie is a great and better candidate.

Here's why I'm unsure about running him in 2016 or even 2020. Christie is our best shot in the foreseeable future. He's only 51 yrs old. Hillary Clinton is going to be HARD to beat in 2016 given the current political climate. I don't want to run our best shot out there to lose and ruin his chances of ever becoming President. I'd rather run him in 2020 if Hillary's public opinion numbers are low, or 2024 when I'm sure the political pendulum will have swung back to the right. He'd only be 62 in 2024. Hillary Clinton will be pushing 70 when she runs for election in 2016.

 

It's conservative, but only in the wrong way (socially). Every time the Republicans get control, they spend like drunken sailers on leave. So no, not conservative in the way that counts.