The Nazi Party was not Right-Wing

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The descendent of the Nazi party in Germany today, is called the Republican party.

    how fitting.
     
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    If you really need to convince yourself that Nazis were not an extreme right-wing party despite that reality, you may want to ask yourself, "Why?"

    A leftist trying to claim that Stalin or Mao were of the extreme right would appear every bit as silly.
     
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    A pro-Ayatollah party in Iran was called the Iranian Republican Party.

    I guess this means they loved Reagan.
     
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    Yet Hitler enacted economic policies so close to them and you any name one thing he did that was a step to the right. Not one specific thing. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. The big 0.
     
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    Did they slash taxes, free up the economy? Believe the people should have more power then government? Did they oppose top down ruler management of the economy? Did they oppose the nationalization of industry?

    Since the answer to all is no, I am guessing they didn't. That said, the progressive left loves all those things. Again, the ayatollah is a leftist. Leftist authoritarian. Left and down.
     
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    If you really need to convince yourself that the NAZI party wasnt a type of lefterism, you Should ask yourself "why are my economic views so close to theirs and so different from everyone who considers themselves right wing"?
     
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    The NAZIs hated gays, immigrants, religious and racial minorities.

    They loved wealthy land-owners and industrialists.

    Just like Conservatives in the USA.

    They were like the grandparents of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.
     
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    You and I clearly have very different value systems. I am keenly aware about the chaotic and anarchistic nature of the world we live in. I value survival, security, and stability. Go to a Brazilian favela and start preaching about 'freedom' and 'liberty', watch the blank stares that will follow. What good is freedom if you can't eat.

    I'd much rather live in absolutist France, were I merely have to beware one tyrant
    You'd rather live in Renaissance Italy, with dozens of squabbling principalities ceaselessly warring with each other
     
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    Conservative values like anti-Semitism, racism, nationalism, homophobia, are Right wing.

    These were the social values of the Nazis.
     
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    better to eat table scraps with no hope of getting more ?

    false dichotomy.
     
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    The Nazis murdered Socialists, Commununists, Unionists, specifically for their Left-wing views.
     
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    what did stalin and lennin love, before they killed millions of their own people ?
     
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    There are no legitimate historians anywhere who would define the Nazis as anything but a right wing reactionary movement. Pop culture historical revisionist definitions don't matter.
     
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    I like to use extremes to illustrate a point
     
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    I was trying to have a decent conversation.
     
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    Decency is relative
     
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    The Nazis loved private property and private industry.

    Just like Conservatives.
     
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    if you don't want to, that's ok.

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    the communists loved to kill their own citizens.
     
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    The Nazis loved nationalism, racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, xenophobia.

    these are not left-wing values.
     
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    the communists loved power, wealth and the killing of millions of their own citizens.
     
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    What was too indecent for you?
     
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    so did the Romans.

    were the Romans, Socialists?
     
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    Only leftist professors count? Why all the appeals to authority and no arguments, facts etc?

    Still thinking of one move to the right big government control hitler did? Just one?

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    You miss the point. The point is you can be leftist and live killing. All the big leftist love to stack bodies. Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol pot, Mugabe, etc...
     
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    Hitler hated immigration, gays, internationalism, Jews, blacks, and other minorities.

    This makes him a Right-winger.
     
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    Economics that are actually designed to create wealth disparity, by government action, would be to the right.

    There is no "American spectrum", there's the left-right spectrum, and then there's what many Americans seem to think is the left right spectrum. This isn't just my spectrum, this is used everywhere in the West, Americans are just confused as to what it actually means.

    I don't give a damn what you want it to mean, I'm telling you what it means. If you can't accept it or don't like it, then there's no point in continuing because I can't do anymore here. I'm telling you the facts, and you refuse to accept them no matter how I try to explain it so I might as well write you off as another hopeless, uninformed American ideologue.

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    No he absolutely did not. He had a fascist regime designed to create a social hierarchy and disparity in wealth. You are delusional or brainwashed, not sure which.
     
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