Conservatives Think The Bible Is Too Liberal So They’re Rewriting It

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  1. crank

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    how do you know?

    as in, how do you know it hasn't been grossly altered?
     
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    If it were liberals rewriting the Bible this thread would be fifty pages long. But instead, it is conservatives rewritting the Bible to better fit the politics of the GOP.

    This is an excellent example of the religious right trading their religion for their politics. Great thing being, once the rewrite is done, they won't have to trade one for the other. lol
     
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    "Conservatives Think The Bible Is Too Liberal So They’re Rewriting It"

    the Mormons did it, don't see why Conservatives could not follow in their shoes
     
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    So much error so little time. First new translations of the Bible come along with great regularity. the amzing thing is not how much they differ but how little. This is so because so many of the ancient texts are still available. And not just the Dead Sea scrolls either. So if you are going to do an honest translation you are a bit stuck. Before Schlafly get's to exercised he should at least not lump the Newest translation from Concordia Publishing. I don't think he'll find it too liberal. The scholarship is among the best currently available and the historical footnotes are unparalleled.
     
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    I guess what they're really saying is they don't actually like the bible. I wonder why they don't just move on, then?

    They're a bit like those estranged husbands who can't just get divorced like sane people, but have to kill the missus - or at the very least, maim her.
     
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    I use KJV which is great and am really satisfied with it. I do not believe that the true Christians want to revise this version of the Holy Bible.
     
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    what is a 'true christian' ?
     
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    I bet when it came out it was considered by many to be a vulgar affront to the True bible, and that educated people scorned it.

    Now the strange and stilted language, which was street talk of the day, sounds majestic.
     
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    ...You know that the King James version is itself a revision, right?
     
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    I have asked this many times and never an answer.

    I think he means someone believing in the same brand of Christianity he does.
     
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    same thing as a true scotsman' I'll wager :p
     
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    Because the King James version was an edited version of the Bible to suit the beliefs of a monarch and then simplified for the times.
     
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    so true christian means whatever any one person says it means. I wish they'd just say 'my kind of christian'. a lot more honest.
     
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    Just about sums it up.
     
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    this obsession with using the word 'true' in place or words like 'great', or 'interesting', or 'familiar', or even 'obedient' is quite odd. it's as though they lack vocabulary, or even perhaps have been inculcated with a reliance on bloated marketing. after all, advertising types have long relied on inappropriate superlatives and descriptives - always electing to use the most extreme word possible while still remaining loosely in context.
     
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    They have made an idol out of a red elephant and are now bowing down before it. The red elephant idol did not conquer them by force but won them over with kind words and flattery.

    I was brought up in the Christian religion. I was a churchgoer for most of my life. In my life I have seen the Red Party thoroughly infiltrate and assume control over the Christian Church in the United States. It was not done from a master plan but was done by a group of people who were all like minded. These people have proceeded to alter The Bible beyond belief. They have taken our Hymnals, with our time honored religious services, and thrown them in the trash. The Hymnals have been replaced by a worship service conducted from a copyrighted bulletin. The message of these services has more to do with the recent trials and tribulations of the red elephant idol than it has to do with the spiritual lives of the individual congregants. Having a "spiritual life" now means following the every command of the red elephant idol more than it means living your personal life in the way Jesus of Nazareth taught. After decades of getting away with such behavior the red elephant idol is now becoming more brazen. The red elephant idol will no longer pretend that it is trying to follow Jehovah. The red elephant idol now openly proclaims that it will alter the teachings of God and replace them with the teachings of the red elephant idol. And people who might earnestly believe they are following God do nothing but cheer the red elephant idol on.

    The Bible is supposed to be the Word of God. Why won't God defend His Word? Why won't he do anything to stop the red elephant idol?

    The Church is supposed to be the House of God. Why won't God defend His Church? Why did he let the red elephant idol take control?

    Maybe God likes to test us. Maybe God wants to see if we will follow the Holy Way even if we have a Bible and a Church that tells us not to. I suppose this is possible. I could understand why God would want to see who truly follows Him and who just wants to be "religious."

    What I can't understand is why God will not defend His name. The red elephant idol wants to portray God as a Republican. This would make our creator a prison building, backstabbing, lying, snotty, worthless, control freak who wants to ruin our lives and betray us to communist China. Why doesn't God do anything to clear His good name from such a portrayal?

    Take a good look at the verses the followers of the red elephant idol choose to alter. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone needs to be removed. Why? What is the purpose of changing this verse? Blessed are the meek has to be changed. Why? What is the purpose of changing this verse? What is the purpose of changing any of these verses?

    Where is our God? Why doesn't He defend Himself? Why doesn't He defend His Word? Why doesn't he defend His Church? Why doesn't He defend His good name? Why doesn't He exhibit any power whatsoever when people try to usurp His position? Is He really a God if he exhibits no power whatsoever?

    We were not created by a conservative. We were not created by a thieving snotmouth. We were not created by a prison builder. We were not created by a control freak. We were not created by a hate filled weasel.

    If God is a conservative then He is not the slightest bit worthy of worship. If God will not defend His name from a conservative takeover then He is not the slightest bit worthy of worship.

    Where is our God?
     
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    Oh Lord the absolute refusal to deal with reality in this thread is amazing. There are currently dozens if not scores of Bible translations available. Some translations have even been done by liberals including the lametable Jesus Seminar whose scholarship is as devoid of reality as most other things the left would like see done. No one is writing new Bibles. We do get new translations perodically. Have for centuries.
     
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    Not really, we have hundreds of different religions from rewrites of the same book.
     
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    That's a fascinating clash of ideologies. I guess these guys could well be establishing a new religious sect, or more precisely, codifying recently developed religious ideas and ideologies that have been developing for a while now into yet another new American Christian church.

    Of course, it remains to be seen how popular that will be. Responding to your question of how many conservatives will favor this new development over their traditional KJVs and present pulpits of choice, I don't anticipate most American Christians accepting something of this sort. More likely it will be popular with the wingnuts who are creating it in the first place, but remain rather small and insignificant overall. At least for the time being... Might some influential person or persons make it something more in the future? Well, maybe. Who would have anticipated Joseph Smith being able to cook up a new bible-based fable and establish a new cult that would become the large and generally accepted & successful church it is today? All these new conservative wingnuts need is a claim of divine revelation and they're bound to find followers...
     
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    In your head. Get past that and everything should start making sense pretty quick.
     
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    Re-writing the Bible(s) is nothing new, and has been done many times by many groups or individuals. In a way this makes perfect sense as it seems the initial intent of these texts was to influence the masses. By creating this newer version this group will influence those they wish to gain as followers, just as all have done before them.

    Few believe this to be "The word of God" anymore regardless.....so whats the big deal.
     
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    Yet the philosophy remains the same. It is mainly the dogma that differs.
     
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    "And again I say unto you, It is less easy for a needle to go through the eye of a camel, than it is easy for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."---Matthew 19:24

    "Keep that ye have, and give a few alms; provide yourselves bags which wax old, a treasure on Earth that faileth not, beware of the thief that approacheth, and the moth that corrupteth."---Luke 12:33

    New Republican Revised Bible
     
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    that "philosophy" being?
     
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    It's hard to just let go of something that a person has spent a lifetime believing to be true. This is especially true at my age. (Middle aged) But I'm afraid you are correct. It's becoming harder and harder for me to believe there is a God when said God does absolutely nothing to defend His Church, His followers, His Word, or His name. There is so much argument over what God wants us to do and believe and there is no sign whatsoever from this supposed being who is so powerful that He is a God.

    So maybe you're right.
     

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