Conservative double standards

Because there are too many Republicans who are scared to death of being blamed for another government shut down if they tried to do what needs to be done, so they kicke the can down the road to nearly the next election.

 

Nope, I never said anything about behavior, did I? I'm referring to equal treatment under the law. Estate law, tax law, survivor rights, all of that. To be enjoyed by all American citizens, regardless of the state they live in. For you to include something as absurd as Happy Meals to make any analogy to civil rights and privileges only subtracts from any point you're trying to make.

We all know EXACTLY what the invocation of "States' Rights" means. It goes back to the deep South and justification for the racial bigotry they wished to practice. Now, you merely wish to expand that to other areas.

 

So being a conservative means you are afraid to lose the next election to the majority that opposes their ideas and would vote them out?

 

Civil right aren't behavior based nor should they be. Failure to create a living will and a will is a dumb idea whether you are married or not. Tax law screws you if you're married yours and your spouses income is added together and then not infrequently taxed at a higher rate such that what the two of you made together might be taxed 25% while separately you might both have been taxed at 15%.

 

I'm just going by what the Constitution says.

 

Equal treatment of attraction then? Equal treatment of choice for mate? Equal treatment of what??

 

I'm not sure what you're referring to. What I am are spousal rights and privileges enjoyed by hetero marriages denied to same sex marriages in many states. Including:

- hospital visitation rights and end-of-life or emergency decisions
- health insurance coverage
- social security benefits
- protections for inheritance rights
- protection for testifying against one's spouse
- joint adoption, joint foster care and other joint parental rights
- shared or other spousal retirement benefits
- family medical leave

Many, many more.

But, the train has left the station. It's only a matter of time.

 

Maybe could it be that most conservatives are also Christians whose holy book tells them that homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord. They can want smaller gov't and still believe marriage is between a man and a woman. It has nothing to do with gov't. It has to do with Christianity. Since Christians can't define marriage, they have to have their gov't do it for them. They just hope that the gov't makes the right choice.

 

maybe theres no one counting just how many conservatives are christian

 

Equal treatment of what? See...you advocate that government decides that anybody can make any definition of marriage they want---by federal law. Two men and one girl? That deserves equal treatment. yep---get them benefits. Brother and sister---equal treatment--benefits in order.

Sorry---the equal treatment idea used how it is....is plain sick. That is what happens when the federal government goes beyond the Constitution....twist it til its sick.

 

Conservative views only apply to what empowers the White Christian male. The "small government" and "freedom" only applies to them. America was founded by White christian men, so the meaning of "conservatism" is to CONSERVE the traditions of White Christian men.

Everyone else be damned.

 

Nonsense. They're no better than Republicans in lots of ways, but, the Republican is ALWAYS worse, primarily because they actually think they're better than 'those people' , and of course because, they represent the extremely wealthy EXCLUSIVELY.

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You keep forgetting that the Constitution is now superseded by the Patriot Act. If it weren't for that fact, you might even have a point.

 

LOL. Please tell me how every republican holding office is worse than their democratic challenger--one by one please. I'd be willing to bet you couldn't name 10% of the republicans in the House by name off the top of your head without cheating, let alone know who challenged them. You certainly couldn't be more wrong about the background of my House Member with your "they represent the extremely wealthy EXCLUSIVELY" comment.

 

They stand for nobody except the elite. That's a fact. They could give a rats azz about the average working man, or anybody else that doesn't 'do the country club circuit'. When Boehner says "The American people...." he's referring to the mega wealthy, and what they want, and absolutely NO ONE else.

 

Hardly the case, but at least you know the name of one republican so I guess that is a start. You might want to contemplate that a lot of republicans represent rural districts in which there are no "mega wealthy" people to begin with.

 

Lotta big wheels pockets get greased with them there though. Lotta power to be gained as well. I think Monsanto is their biggest supporter in the farm belt states. Lotsa kickbacks going on....believe it.

 

Let us see, in 2012 Monsanto gave to House Democrats: $72,000 and the GOP $190,500; Senate Democrats: $37,500 and Republicans: $85,000. In the 2014 cycle: House Democrats: $40,000 and Republicans: $128,500; and Senate Democrats: $18,500 and Republicans: $22,500.... (http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00042069&cycle=2014)

My House Member is not on either list. I think you either overestimate the purchasing power of $500,000 spread over a few dozen people or of Monsanto's political patronage, or both. Either way, you are wrong, but what have you to say about the democrats whose names are on the Monsanto donation list? I mean if Monsanto is evil and democrats are taking money from Monsanto and democrats are always better than republicans, you seem to have carved a rift in the time-space continuum that needs sealing up.

 

Monsanto bought Obama. Gave him enough for Obama to elect one if their too executive to be head of the FDA. So a former executive of Monsanto is now in charge of making laws and restrictions on Monsanto. Obama bought and paid for.

 

I agree with you which is why we need a FLAT tax to do away with exemptions and itemizing and the ridiculousness that makes the average person run to a tax preparer to get ripped off worse than usury by kneecap busting loan sharks working for the mob named Vinny that aren't the nice "My Cousin Vinny" who defends you from death.

Then the question of whether homosexuals can marry would fall to individual rights where it truly belongs... instead of hinging on tax purposes.

Our tax code looks like Swiss Cheese and smells like green cheese.

 

What is the connection between one's opposition to same-sex marriage and the view that heterosexual marriage "should be the only way the human race should procreate"?

One may indeed oppose the sweeping societal change, by which marriage is no longer defined as the union of one man and one woman, while simultaneously wishing that society might resurrect the opprobrium traditionally shown to those who procreate outside of marriage...

 

Oh! Oh! I know! It comes from reading news reports, studying facts, figures, and statistics. It comes from listening to Mainstream Media journalists and pundits act as if they wanted to have Barack Obama's next baby -- even some of the women acted that way -- back in 2008 WHILE claiming to the rest of the nation that they were being strictly non-partisan and politically neutral during the campaign coverage. It comes from watching the Left act like the Left in general. Nasty, filthy stuff!

 

True, but with the MSM mostly in their pocket most of the time, they continue trying -- those mischievous little tykes -- they never, ever cease trying.

 

What's really interesting is that it took a "big" government to take away lands from the indians and give it to the white man. Suddenly, now that they have taken what they want, its quite convenient for them to now be opposed at the methods they once used.....................just so those same methods can't be used against them.

Its tantamount to me taking your ice cream, then enacting legislation so that no one can take it from me........... even you. This world is about ME, ME, and ME.

 

That's quite interesting because not one MSM journalist told the true story when covering "if you like your insurance you can keep it." Not one of them explained how Obama was responding to the fear that the government was going to take over health insurance and many people were scared they were going to be forced out of their current BCBS(blue cross blue shield) insurance and forced to buy the governments plan.

All of them, went on the notion of Obama lying.............but its very clear to see that he wasn't lying. Nothing in ACA forces you out of BCBS and into government healthcare. In fact, measures were taken to ensure that you could keep your insurance(grandfathering).

The MSM is conservative, run by corporations, but if those conservatives shout and scream that the media is liberal..................sooner or later you are going to believe it whether its true or not.

 

I'm not a conservative but I will defend and explain your premise now.

You are lumping in a large group of people into a single belief, which you can not do.

At the most basic Conservatives are comprised of the business community, evangelicals (social conservatives), and libertarians.

Those 3 components alone have disagreements.
Do you think Exxon cares about abortion or gay marriage? (Actually they might be against it because it would be a cost to them)

It would be as useless as saying liberals are hypocrites when you pit different people with different ideologies against each other.
Trendy hipster liberals who use iMac's made by kids in china. Some liberals want state rights for gay marriage, others want federal laws.

Are you REALLY shocked when you take 100 million Americans, lump them in a single group, and claim they are hypocrites?

I award you an F.