It's not required by law to tip your waiter

perhaps you should get out of the water before someone hands you a toaster! doh!

 

Very good.

Now go clock in. You wouldn't want to have your pay docked..oh wait. Nothing from nothing leaves nothing? Go in whenever you're ready.

 

I don't get the point.

 

That is the aspect that is vital.

 

well sonny, Morgan Freeman here, we differ on outlook and as I recall it went something like this when I worked at Shawshank diner....

Restaurant Manager: Red, your files say you've served 40 people out of 100. Do you feel you've been remunerated?

Red: Remunerated? Well, now let me see. You know, I don't have any idea what that means.

Manager: Well, it means that you're ready to rejoin society tonight with enough tip money ...

Red: I know what you think it means, sonny. To me, it's just a made up word. A politician's word, so fellas like yourself can wear a suit and a tie, and have a job. What do you really want to know? Am I sorry for what I did?

Manager: Well, are you?

Red: There's not a day goes by I don't feel regret. Not because I'm in here, because you think I should. I look back on the way I was then: a young, stupid kid who didn't like gratuity. I want to talk to him. I want to try to talk some sense to him, tell him the way things are. But I can't. That kid's long gone, and this old man is all that's left. I got to live with that. Remunerated? It's just a bull(*)(*)(*)(*) word. So you go on and stamp your form, sonny, and stop wasting my time. Because to tell you the truth, I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Please be careful where you tip, some bastard bosses have been known to take tips and use the money from your tips as part of the of the employee's wages, meaning your money goes directly to the boss and the employees are no better off. Always ask one of the employees where tips go.

 

no kidding, I once tipped a whore and her pimp came right out from under the bed and grabbed it.

 

one of my daughters is a part time server in an upscale restaurant to pay for her tution...management takes a percentage of her gross sales(an assumed 15% tip per sale)even if she doesnt get tipped...and our local laws state because she is a server and recieves tips she is not even entitled to minimum wages...and she must also share her tips with the bartender even if the patrons ordered no drinks from the bar...

 

Another point against the tipping system.

 

What's the problem as long as you know where the money is going? I see how people can argue that for America, but in Europe service workers are usually paid enough that tipping is not used as a cover for raising the wage. Tipping culture is overwhelmingly a positive thing, it inspires good relationships between workers.

 

why?..................

 

not in any place I've visited.

 

So, they don't pay her to begin with, AND take her tips??? Why does she accept this?

 

they do pay her but less than minimum, the law permits it because she is a server...she accepts it because all the restaurants do it and there is no other option and she needs money for tuition...

And if servers complain they find their hours reduced to zero...

 

There is very wide variation in wages and tipping practices, some good and some abusive...

I visited another province last summer and the server told me she chased down a family from norway who didnt leave a tip(apparently norwegians dont tip) and explained to them she would have to take a % out of her wages to pay the restaurants expected cut of the tip...they tipped her...

 

I'm sorry for her. Sounds like all the servers need to tell the azzwipes to stuff it, and collectively walk out. Start affecting THEIR profits.

 

Yeah they should but there are always young ladies in school desperately looking for part time work, so if they walk out they'll be replaced within a day or two...unions are often criticized for over reaching but here is an abusive situation because there are no unions and only flimsy ineffective legislation...

 

Well, people will only do what you let them do, I suppose. If you keep accepting abuse without even batting an eye, it'll continue. Shut their business down for a day, and highlight why you did it, and MAYBE they'll think a little more carefully about their policies, next time...MAYBE.

 

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Give me a break.

 

So question, are all tips for all servers combined and then divided equally? Does your daughter get credit card or cash tips? And, isn't the bartender an extension of the service she's delivering? especially if there are a lot of drinks to a table? Come on, really?

 

tips aren't divided, each server surrenders a portion of his/her tips to management, chefs, bartender...

if the patron declines to tip because the meal was unsatisfactory due to the chef the server must still pay a portion of the gross sale to management, chef and bartender...so if the sale was $100 and there was no tip the server is assumed to have been tipped $15 regardless, so the managements, chefs, bartender collect a percentage of servers less than minimum wage...bartender is tipped regardless if any alcohol is served...

and all of the management, chefs and bartenders are paid well above minimum wage...

really...

 

I managed a restaurant/bar many years ago for every job advertised we'd get at least 20 applications, replacing anyone was easy and quick, we kept the applications of all unsuccessful applicants and could have a replacement within hrs ...the owner would never hire a server full time because labour laws would come into play that gave some protection to full time workers(severance and benefits) all servers were part time only so they could be treated with contempt, even full time workers should they disagree with their treatment would find their hours reduced until they were part time or they quit due to insufficient hours...

 

Like I said. Not a good system at all. And like others have said it's a busness turned upside down for the owners and the burden placed on the workers. Knowing that waiters should try to get other skills and not just work in this bs field.

 

What do you mean not a good system, the person stated at least 20 application to replace staff. Sounds like many like the business the way it is. If it were so bad as you want someone to believe, then finding help would be next to impossible. Sorry dude! Just not so.