Which country is the next candidate for Putin´s anschluss´s plans?

My bull(*)(*)(*)(*) detector just exploded.

 

The U.S. doesn't occupy because then it would have to contend with the American people and congress. Instead it starts the protests and civil wars through subversive actions by the CIA, and it's NGO's like USAID. We spend billions on changing leaders in other nations and making them our clients. This is so our government can sit on the side line and have others are fighting and killing one another off under the pretext of democracy and human rights.

If you don't believe that the U.S. was running everything that was going on in Kiev, then listen to the phone call between Victoria Nuland and the American ambassador. They even have the next president of Ukraine picked out and she was furious with the E.U. because they wanted a different one. So much for the 'will' of the Ukrainian people. Oh Lordy, what have we become?

When the Gezi protests started in Istanbul, Erdogan mentioned it was outside forces, and Putin immediately confiscated all the computors of the NGO's in Moscow. Germany became furious over it, and it became sort of a mini war between them. Merkel then grabbed the Russian assets in Cypriot banks, but they were forced to give them back at the end. I did read I believe in Spiegel that there is a great deal of hatred towards Russians by the Germans, but they hold back because of economic interests and their dependency on Russian gas.

 

Oh then you are talking about Georgia?

 

How much have you seen in our controlled media about the massacres of minority groups by those who we support in Syria under pretext's of democracy and human rights? You do know that the CIA report said that if an election were held in Syria, Assad would win. I guess supporting the terrorists is what would be considered democracy 'American style'.

 

The Economist at times is as idiotic as the BBC, since it touts the politically correct British line. One has to wonder how many of those working in these liberal publications are gay, and have some kind of animosity towards Putin for not allowing them to parade naked in the streets of Moscow. According to Spiegel the Germans hate the Russians, but try to control it because of their economic dependency.

 

When I said the big bad bear is not out to bite anyone, he just wants to present a counter balance to the excesses of the U.S. in the world with its indifference to human life, I was not kidding. I remember Putin saying it years ago that it wasn't good to have a one world power. I also remember at the time that we were being referred to as the 'empire', and that when Obama became President he was considered the leader then of the whole world.

 

I guess supporting dictators who butcher innocent civilians is considered democracy "Russian style".

Of course, your red herring didn't address my point about Putin and Russia's callous indifference to human life. Supporting a Syrian dictator who cavalierly butchers innocent civilians would be one example, but if you really want to see how much the Russian Bear cares about human life do a Google Image Search under "Russian atrocities in Chechnya". I hope you're not the squeamish type...

 

I don't doubt that at all, Jenny, but that doesn't mean people are going to take that comment seriously when reality indicates otherwise.

I agree that it's not good to have one world power - Americans don't need to be shouldered with that burden and the responsibilities that invariably come with it. However, the emergence of a multi-polar world full of reckless regional powers who are fond of invading their neighbors doesn't exactly qualify as an improvement, either.
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I've been reading your posts around here. You have some pretty big inaccuracies in your statements. Such as this one.
Romania is an Orthodox country and had a LOT to loose by being so close to Russia. I can mention just the communist regime which ruled Romania for 50 odd years and crippled the population in this time, communist rule which was installed into power and later supported by the Soviets.

I don't understand why you get the impression that the Russian state was and is benevolent in its external actions.

 

it is not a Russian style its a Vatnik style. local middle class doest want this war

look at statistic

http://theweek.com/article/index/257...e-with-ukraine

 

look like i know history better then you do.,

Bulgaria ww1 and ww2 has fought against "Russia/USSR" , Georgia under the total Russian pressure, Ukrainians vs Putin regime today , Rumania vs Bulgaria, Russia; Serbia vs Bulgaria. Greece is NATO , etc.

 

I'm hoping it's Kazakhstan. Those are barbaric sum(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es.

 

its still way , way better then your RT, Vetsi, and Vatnik TV ....

 

the first Bandera follower has been sighted in Crimea
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera
[video=youtube;BDt2_bY09vk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BDt2_bY09vk[/video]

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[video=youtube;NVa9FiWB4qg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVa9FiWB4qg[/video]

 

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europ...ine-crimea-annexation-201431219464218943.html
look like Obama will not make Chamberlain´s mistakes ....

 

I have no intention of watching 'takiyya' lies and propaganda by the Kafkas emirate and its Chechnyan butchers. Uhhh! Remember how lovely they were in Boston? Oh well, I guess it's because we haven't been kind to them and going around killing Muslims.

What I did see was the video of a Russian soldier being beheaded by these dear Chechnyans, and that was enough for me. As for Syria, Assad has had a history of tolerance towards minorities, what other nation in the Middle East can make that claim?

What I do know are the lies of our media and State Department when they refer to foreign terrorists as freedom fighters, and when they say that the rebels do not have Sarin gas and the ability to use it, when Carla Del Ponti of the U.N. said they do.

 

do you talk about them?

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...sponse-ukraine
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101481678

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/eu-prepa...ssia-1.1724131

 

criminal boss of Crimean´s collaborationists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaborationism

http://time.com/19097/putin-crimea-russia-ukraine-aksyonov/

 

You can not equate Russia today with the Soviet political system which had victimized the Russian people. Twenty million died because of an atheist system which was imposed on them by a minority group, mostly foreigners, and had come out of the Enlightenment in Western Europe and which had no relationship to Christian Tsarist Russia. Five thousand Russian monasteries and churches were destroyed and twenty thousand monks and clergy were martyred, more than the amount of Christians killed during the first centuries in Rome.

Anyway I never said Russia is benevolent, but I do respect Putin for not bowing down to values which run contrary to the ones which had civilized Europe. As for Putin's assertiveness, it has to be seen in the context of his neighbor down below and their threats in the Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean as well as in the Balkans and Caucasus.

I am reposting this because it gives an idea of why we are now in a revival of the Cold War. I think it would be of interest to you and others on this thread.

I have here some excerpts from a book by Jack F. Matlock, Jr. titled Superpower Illusions: How Myths and False Ideologies Led America Astray. In it he says what soured the relations between Russia and the U.S. after the Soviet breakup. I know that Gorbachov and Reagan had an excellent relationship and fondness for one another, and it was never the intention of Ronald Reagan to change the regime in Russia. Reagan's only concern was nuclear proliferation. I think he would turn in his grave if he saw what future presidents, especially Bill Clinton, would do to the friendship he had formed between the two countries.

 

I like this part:

So Time has now decided to make the illegal Junta in Kiev legal, and the legal act of separatism, (according to the Hague's decision on Kosovo); illegal. That's funny litwin! I guess the press now runs the show.

 

Litwin why don't you give it up. I told you quite some time ago that the Crimea now belongs to Russia, and you didn't believe me. Nothing you do is going to change that, and tomorrow it will Donetsk, Odessa and a few other places, and the Junta in Kiev will just have to swallow it. So instead of them continuing to demonize Putin and Russia, the Europeans who are a little bit more sensible, should start figuring out what they are going to do before the people of Ukraine start dying from the austerity imposed on them by the IMF... or by a civil war.

 

no one, since no one exсept Kazakhstan has historically Russian territories, as Ukraine, and Kazakhstan is a friend of Russia, perhaps, if they should become enemies

 

I didn't equate Russia today with the USSR. I responded to your statement that the East European Orthodox countries always turned to Russia for protecting them from the money grubbing West and the Ottoman Empire, which is not true. Even today among the Romanian population there is almost unanimous distrust in the Russian state (the state mind you, not the population) and no one would think to turn to Russia for protection, that would be anathema.

IMHO I think that's a mistake. I wouldn't trust any statal power structure, especially one which got created from the remnants of the USSR system an the person leading is an ex-KGB agent.I wouldn't trust the US administration either for that matter. I think the main civilizing force comes from the people/population which protest against the so called protective measures which these statal power structures go around doing around the world.

I totally agree that the way Russia responds right now is a consequence of NATO expanding and of the fact that they don't want to loose their Sevastopol naval base. But does that mean that Russia, if it had the power, would be a much more civilized "force" in Europe? I doubt it. I'm only looking at the number of journalists who were killed there to see that it's not going to be.Do you think that the Russian state doesn't work with propaganda and with bribing and coercion in order to keep their status quo?

In the 90s, Russia was weak (and it still is now but not as much) and the US took advantage of this but if the tables were turned do you think that Russia wouldn't have done the same? Concentrated power structures always react in their own interests and the Russian state is no different.
Again I think that ordinary people need to coerce their own governments into being more civilized and not expect any state/persident/whatever to do it for you.

 

"Junta" in Kiev have support of majority in parliament, the whole world recognized new government of Ukraine.

Crimean parliament was hijacked by the criminal gangster - Goblin (from local gang Salem) and his extremist party which won only 4% of the vote in that year’s Crimean parliamentary elections, securing three out of the chamber’s 100 seats. so that's why referendum will never , ever be recognized by the world community
only the crazy vatniks can not to see the huge difference between those two

Salem´s gang takes over Crimean parliament​

[video=youtube;wzT1rr6SwiQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzT1rr6SwiQ[/video]

Germany -Moscow ​