Are The Russians Considered Sub Human In The West?

Thread: Are The Russians Considered Sub Human In The West?

Nope.....more like they are simply not considered at all.

Just as the people of Sudan, Indonesia, Syria....etc. Seriously it's not our problem and I for one am glad we have stopped trying to save the world.

 

Putin has claimed the North Pole as Russian territory. Putin sees himself as the savior of Russian humiliation after the collapse of the Soviet Union. In some ways, Putin does remind me of Hitler.

 

Kremlin's propaganda is based on truth. It is confirmed by facts, pictures taken at the site and analysis. Actually good propaganda is information. Everyone is supposed to use his brains, watching TV. Here is Obama about Putin://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/obama-vladimir-putin-n124981

 

Russian humiliation is nothing by comparison with Germany humiliation after capitulation. Even under Communist rule, Russia survived, moreover, Russia made a lot of progress and came out with stronger democratic institutions in life and politics. Ukraine is different from other provinces of the former Soviet Union. More then half of Ukraine is actually Russia and people of those provinces realize the fact despite neo Nazis in Kiev, EU and NATO.

 

By the way. Chinese school globe Alaska and Ukraine have already been reunited with Russia .... (This is not fake)



1. Looking Alaska.
2. Looking Ukraine.
3. Writing about creepy territorial claims of China to Siberia [it is not in the colors of China].
4.?????
5. BINGO!

Color is not the key, Syria signed, but the Ukraine ...

Chinese - smart people. Gunpowder was invented. And much more. Probably foresight.

 

Ah yes, the Nazi propaganda of Russia just like the Jew propaganda of Germany.

 

Uhhh! I have news for you Fabien, so forget your Turkish fairy tales. Istanbul derives from Is tin Poli., and Poli which means city in Greek, was Constantinople. The same with Izmir which is derived from the Smyrna. The Turkish language cuts off the ending so that Poli became bul, Smirna became smir.

I have news again for you Fabien, sixty percent of the Greek DNA is the same as the ancient Greeks. (Go take a look at any of the statues). The next prominent DNA is French because Southern Greece was a Crusader state with 360 castles. Then comes the Northern Italians, since all the Greek lands were colonized either by Venice or Genoa, Florence, and Ragusa. Next is Slavic, Wallachian, and Catalan. I left out the Southern Italians which come closest to the Greeks in DNA because southern Italy, or better known as Mega Graecia, was a Greek colony which means that they would have Greek DNA, rather than the Greeks having Southern Italian DNA.

The DNA from Anatolia, Middle East, Caucasus, Persia, etc., is not a factor because it had already become part of the Ancient Greek make up. As for Turkish DNA, there is none. I mean how could there be since they are Muslims and would have been killed if they became Christians. Also they would have been forced to raise their children Muslim. In contrast, the Turks do have a lot of Greek DNA since they were taken as slaves.

Greece always survived because of Europe. Basically they idolized the Classical Greeks, because they wanted to idolize themselves. Since they had nothing to prove they were culturally and racially superior, they created the myth of the Greeks being racially pure and made themselves their inheritors.

Anyway the Europeans fought for and created the Greek state, which gave Greece two heritages as well as two allegiances. One is their heritage as Romans because of the Byzantine Empire and their faith, and the other is as Hellenes because of their ancient Greek heritage. The Roman/Byzantine one draws them to Russia, and the Classical one draws them to the Enlightenment and Western Europe.

They are also uneducated otherwise they wouldn't be voting for the megalomaniac Erdogan, who suffers from illusions of grandeur. He thinks he can do what the 'Empire of Chaos' does and make up his own laws and break treaties at will. To him the Lausanne Treaty means nothing, except when it comes to keeping the lands Turkey ethnically cleansed, like for instance all of Anatolia. They now believe the Aegean and the Greek islands belongs to them as well.

So explain to me Fabien, how can Turkey be a regional power when Israel dominates the air, and the Russian fleets dominate the Black Sea and the Mediterranean, not to mention all the waters in between?

They are extreme opposites, except for the minds the lobbying propagandists create. Erdogan, or rather Sultan Erdogan of the Ottoman megalomania type, is running a nation with more human rights violations than just about any other in the world, which includes beating old women and children, killing protesters with guns and chemical weapons, etc. How can he be compared with Vladimir Putin, a man of the highest moral integrity, and who will resist every pressure exerted on him rather than succumb to anything which would be harmful to the Russian people?

Erdogan will be the new president of Turkey, and either Devotoglu or Fidan will be the new Prime Minister, so nothing will change.

These are all fairy tales. Here's the reality. The tax on Christian families was to give one son to the Sultan. The boy was given a pittance, and he set off on foot for Constantinople. If he survived the ordeal, he was converted to Islam and became part of the janissaries. He was later told that his family was killed by Christians, that way he could be aroused against them. .

You forgot only twelve percent of the inhabitants are Tatars? Crimea will be heavily invested by Russian oligarchs. But look, Putin tries to make Russia an inclusive society. He will definitely help the Tatars living there, as well as any Ukrainians. Don't think though for a moment he will allow any of the criminal elements from Ukraine enter.

 

The russian nationalistic monsters are very dangerous.

I would say they are monsters and they must be stopped.

Putin is a big dangerous mafia criminal. He wants to start the WW3. The west must react. Putin is like Hitler. If we do not stopp him now. he will kill all of us with his nazi troops called pro russians.

I really only can warn Nato to give the most hard answer: put 1 million troops to russian borders. Install an anti nuclear shild and put many many nukes at the borders. Send CIA to Ukraine and execute the scum from Kremlin.

Mission done.

We get ready to fight the evil. We will fight the bear. We are getting prepared.

 

.............Uh...............who wants to start WWIII?

Sounds like you do.

 

I'm all for WW III.

We're heading there anyway because this is an intolerant world, so we might as well jump the gun.

Nobody really cares anyway. They all want to force people to their ways of life, whoever they are.

So let's just end it all.

I'm tired of all this crap.

 

In Italy no, Russians are well considered here.

From Eastern Europe immigration in our country is divided between the Russian and the Ukrainian community [what a situation!].

While till a decade ago they were all poor immigrants, today we can say that generally Russians are rich immigrants [they buy homes, societies ...] and that they are not above suspicion regarding eventual connections with Mafia [the Russian Organizatia].

Anyway, no, here Russians enjoy a well good consideration.

 

Interesting. Russian emigrants in New York are well connected and are quite friendly with Italian emigrants. Both like noisy parties. Not sure about mafia, though. I would stay away from that.

 

It is not about some nice immigrating russians. It is about the imperialistic evil spirit of russian mainstream. We should not allow Stalin to come back, we should not allow Putin to bring misery all over Europe, we should not allow the occupation of Crimea.

We, the west , we must fight the monster!

If Stalin and the USSR will invade, nothing can stop them if we are not all getting prepared. We are forced to get arms, our household must change into war industry with a crash program.

We have may be 3-6 more years. After that, Stalin will invade and kill all europeans.

You do live in illusions.

The free world, the United STates should drop a nuclear bomb at the Barent Sea to make these fascists stopping if (!!!) they dare to take Ukraine.

 

You sound like a prosecutor. Stay trembling and be just for your own safety. Russians are rarely forgive.

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You sound like a prosecutor. Stay trembling and be just for your own safety. Russians are rarely forgive.

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You are a strange man. I have good exchange with Finnish scientists. When I worked in the former Soviet Union, I was invited in University of Helsinki. I prepared a talk on scientific topic of common to us interest. I hated communism, but I have never been anti Russian. Unfortunately, KGB did not let me to travel in Finland. I did not know, that some Finns were so mad with Russians. I hope you are a rare exception.

 

lol, the Georgian government did not have one iota of autonomy under the Soviet Union they were controlled by the Kremlin as was every other nation under the iron curtain. And; furthermore, provide the Soviet or post Soviet era statute which "forbade their language."

 

With the collapse of the Soviet Union, Crimea became part of the newly independent Ukraine. Independence was supported by a referendum in all regions of Ukrainian SSR, including Crimea.[30] 54% of the Crimean voters supported independence with a 60% turnout (in Sevastopol 57% supported independence).[31]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...public_within_Ukraine_.281991.E2.80.932014.29

Both.

 

Look like the Kremlin badly controlled, if local officials, imposed to Ossetians the Georgian language but not Russian

 

on my guesses you got confused and you don't know a question(events in the Crimea before collapse of the USSR and after), and you look for answers just now...
also go to see democracy in Ukraine now -how it work and my be someone shooting you there

 

There are clues indicating that Russian Mafia, overall in South Italy[ in Northern Italy it seems they limit their action to buy luxury villas, also here on Lago Maggiore there are new Russian owners from Moscow oligarchy who are, in my opinion, not totally above suspicion ...], is cultivating connections with our "native" Mafia [in particular with Camorra in the region of Naples].

 

About the realistic possibilities of this Russia to invade Western Europe ...

1. Black Sea
The Russian fleet in the Black Sea would play a strategical role during such an invasion:
1a. their pivotal base in Syria is easy to hit and to be destroyed [think to all NATO units which are just in the waters in front of that base now ...]
1b. Turkey would aid NATO [turkey is a NATO country] and a naval blockade at the mouth of Black Sea would be very easy to organize.
1c. Stealth units would attack their coastal installations to prevent the usage of their so advertised "hypersonic missiles" and we could also observe if their anti-stealth systems work properly ...

2. Central Europe
As we all see, the weak point for Europe is the center of the continent. Wide flat lands, without natural obstacle for a large deployment of armored divisions with heavy air coverage and the support of fast and numerous missile brigades.
2a. My answer to such a deployment would be the usage of our long range tactical missiles [why not with thermobaric warheads: no radiation, but tremendous destruction]. Such a barrage would break their charge a lot [of course they would intercept a lot of missile, launching their own ones, sending their stealth units to attack our installations ... and we will test our own anti-stealth techs ...].

The points today [in 21st century], regarding an eventual Russian invasion of Western Europe, are two

1. Russians have greater numbers, but technology counts more than numbers
2. If they want some, they can come and get some!

 

This article lead me to the thought that Wikipedia is not absolute resource and have some contradictions. Because main article about referendum in Soviet Union is that one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_referendum,_1991
- 77,85% of the people of voted for preservation of Soviet Union
- in Ukrainian SSR this number was 71,48%
- nevertheless Soviet Union was disorganized against will of the people

 

This is true. The Soviet Union became disintegrated, because of idiotic political games among new born Russian democrats, mainly Yeltsin and Gorbachev. They could save it by reforming gradually and under control by the existing power in Moscow. Similar process started in China, but still under control of communist party. Portraits of Mao are everywhere and America loves China better. China is a creditor of our aggression in the entire world!

 

-The majority of Ukrainians voted for independence, that is a fact, the majority of Crimeans voted for independence, that is likewise a fact. It was not the Russian peoples right to choose whether or not to continue their illegal and illegitimate military occupation of the Ukraine anymore than it was the German peoples right to decide on whether or not to continue their illegal and illegitimate occupation of Poland.

The March '91 referendum was supplanted by the December '91 referendum:

In December 1991, Ukraine held its independence referendum, where 92.3 percent of the voters approved the August 24 declaration of independence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_sovereignty_referendum,_1991

The Crimean vote for independence and the referendum to remain part of the Ukraine came after the March 4th referendum as well so spare me the Kremlin ministry of propaganda nonsense.

 

nobody considers Russians to be "sub-human".

but many of us do see Putin as a mini-Stalin/Hitler.

 

You have yet to provide the statute which "forbade" their language. The only official language of Russia is Russian, the only official language of France is French, Germany German, etc etc. are Georgia and the Ukraine the only two countries which can not have only one official language?