IRS computer crashed erased Lerner emails

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  1. Rainbow Crow

    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    It's funny how cutting someone off in a hearing is corruption to you (apparently you've never seen a hearing before) but sending over a million pages of private documents to the wrong people, getting caught red-handed applying a higher standard to your political opponents and blatantly trashing the evidence somehow doesn't qualify as corruption.
     
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    LOL Yes. He hid her emails. He forced her to quit and plead the 5th. Unbelievable.
     
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    "Watergate style conspiracy" is yet to be seen, a crime has yet to be seen, sounds like they have not attempted to get IT involved yet... as they will be able to reproduce or like you said, someone ass is grass
     
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    Do you have proof that there "is" actually evidence that exists, and do you also have proof it was trashed? It's funny how you claim evidence yourself without actually presenting any evidence. It is also funny how a representative of a committee is supposed to be allotted time for procedural questions while being denied those rights, is somehow "NOT" corruption for you. Interesting!
     
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    Lol back at you! Man, you have a long ways to go if you're planning on skinning this cat. You never made it to the orientation pre-k class where this made up scandal began. And I'm not about to start class all over again.
     
  6. Rainbow Crow

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    I don't think anyone believes at this point that the computer really went down on its own. I'm hoping that there are backups available, the entire story sounds pretty ridiculous, time will tell I guess.

    If you really believe in her innocence in all of this you should be mad that this happened to make her look bad and be rooting for them getting the emails out because those emails might help to exonerate her, but you don't seem to be taking that position. You probably believe she smashed her HD with a hammer as part of the fight against the evil righties and that she was right to do it.
     
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    The "Single Narrative" is that King Obama ordered the IRS to stonewall tax-exempt status for Americans and American groups vocally opposed to his fascist regime in an impeachable event far far larger than NIxon's Watergate or Clinton's Willy Scandals. As part of the coverup they paid Lois Lerner off to shut her up and get her out of sight, and now they've pretended to "accidentally" destroy all copies of the e-mails incriminating the White House and the IRS top brass for their crimes. The failure to have back-up copies of all e-mails, is, of course, a federal crime since this is a major agency of the federal government subject to Congressional review.

    No matter how it is viewed by honest people, not the (*)(*)(*)(*)-wad Rodents that continue to defend that scum-bucket traitor they voted at least twice for, the conclusion cannot be escaped that your corrupt traitor is attempting to benefit from an illegal destruction of government records. It does not matter if those records were kept on a "hard drive", "back-up tapes", or encoded in binary strings of coconuts on the Hawaii shore....the fact of the matter is that the IRS's criminal activity is disclosed by this pretense that those e-mails no longer exist.

    Impeachment proceedings against the head of the IRS should proceed immediately, and a speciall prosecutor assigned, on Monday, with full subpoena powers and powers of indictment to get to the bottom of this matter.

    The Rodents freaked out when Nixon was alleged to have used the IRS against one person. You people being the hypocrites you know yourselves to be, you flatly DO NOT CARE that the IRS is being used as a tool of vengeance by your corrupt masters.

    How's that for a reality-based narrative editorial?
     
  8. Mayor Snorkum

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    Find the man that pulled the plug on the computer.

    Tell him that if he can provide documentary evidence showing who ordered him to pull that plug he'll only serve minimum time in prison, and voila, a mysteriously disappearing document will re-surface.

    Funny how that works.

    Funny, isn't it, how polite committees asking polite questions to (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) Rodents on national TV for over a year produces nothing?

    Get a special prosecutor, give him a fully charged cattle prod called "jail time", and see what happens to open those secret nooks and crannies the parasites love to hide things in.

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    So The Master has spoken and thus He Spake: "There are no e-mails".

    And thus do the mindless masses of True Believers repeat until they puketh.
     
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    I just want it to continue to be clear because not everyone here is not I.T. Technical.

    There is absolutely NO WAY they lost those emails from a damaged, broken, burnt, etc... computer. That does not happen with today's technology. They have back up processes that occur at longest every week, normally every day, and quite possibly on a constant basis to off site servers. The information cannot be lost unless it was destroyed at multiple geographic locations. It would 100% have to have been intentional with multiple people in on the task.

    Finally, the small email space per employee claim is a joke for multiple reasons.

    1. Even if you have small space, the emails are all still stored outside of your access on servers and they are not lost if you drop your computer in a vat of grease.

    2. If the storage space was small, that means they really have an offsite back up system which was constantly updated and archived all old emails. You don't just destroy them because OMG we are out of space.

    3. Computer space today is CHEAP!!!! Terabytes which are obscene are hundreds of dollars only. 1 Terabyte could store all of the email a person creates and receives for their entire life... not counting attachments and in this case attachements likely mean very little.

    They are calling the nation stupid with such an outrageous claim of "lost emails". Only someone not verse in modern Email Exchange Servers would believe it.
     
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    You don't have to ask me twice if she is innocent. I know she is innocent of malicious wrong doing. Her methodology may not be on the up and up as to how she should have approached the problem with how the law had gotten so corrupted after the Citizens United decision. But, it in no way means she was deliberately trying to Target anyone for political reasons. Her dilemma was the discovery that there were complications about the law that she herself did not understand, and noticed there may be some legal problems with groups like the Tea Party who were abusing the 501(C)4 social welfare status. The sheer number of applications I suspect is what got her attention. And I'm glad it did. Most Tea party organizations should not be getting tax exempt status to begin with. Or any other organization masquerading as a social welfare organization. But, in the meantime, Darrell Issa and team have done there best to inject Lerner as scandalous with emails and targeting, and fifth amendment rights to keep the heat on this scandal that never was. The thing is, the right doesn't want the illegal law changed. That is why they try and keep the scandal going. The changing of the law in 1959 illegally, is the only real scandal here. It isn't Lois lerner. Nor has it ever been her. They need to keep her on the ropes, because when it finally is revealed there was no targeting by her or any other IRS official for political purposes, this will totally destroy the Republican brand of credibility and honesty. They have already lost a lot with this fabricated scheme. The good thing about it is, they can't ride it forever.
     
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    That's only if you believe that the dog ate your homework, the goblins stole it, and fairies sprinkled dust on the emails and they disappeared. Since Snowden claims the NSA can find anything, let 'em loose.
     
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    Thus, after having made this erudite philosophical pronouncement, you'll follow it by telling us why it is not possible to retrieve the email data files from the subject hard drives...? You see, "Recovering", there are these things today called "clean-rooms". Oh, and did you know that it is possible to disassemble hard drives so that each individual platter can be removed? The actual data-retrieval process is very time-consuming, but it definitely can be done, if someone WANTS to....

    Obama's IRS Gestapo-scum can run, but they can't hide -- not this time. And all of Obama's ass-kissing "news" media sycophants can ignore this travesty, but it won't go away.

    The only hope he has to get away with yet another of his long list of "high crimes and misdemeanors" is for those nauseating, disgusting RINO "Republicans" to squirm their way out of actually having to DO anything (because he's "the first Black president" :roll:). They could have him on a platter, with a skewer in his ass and an apple in his mouth, if only they would go after him and the dirty bunch of hyperliberal bastards, like Comrade Lois Lerner, who do his bidding....
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    I ask YOU to tell me not post blind links


    Give me the exact quote of Issa declaring as fact Obama was invoked. Not a may have, or a postulations it may lead to the executive office. A statement of fact Obama was involved.

    There is no doubt there was targeting.
     
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    Not familiar with those protocols (PCI came into existence after I got out) but data backup and email server data would be recoverable as well as not being discovered as data loss a year or so later. Just another cover up by the community organizer.
     
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    It was nor a criminal court and no choice for what, all she had to do was answer questions truthfully. No one else has has to plea against incrimination what was different about her?
     
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    It is uncanny how this is mimicking Watergate. It just keeps getting worse with every delegation and higher up the tree.
     
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    I do not even see how public servant can refuse to answer questions about her job? That along should had her fired, but no- dismissing may had upset her into saying something she should not - and so, she retired with full benefits.
     
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    The IRS backs up its data every single day just for this possibility. They have the e-mails, they simply do not want to provide them.
     
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    The crashed server lie might serve to give them a few more weeks to produce the data but the idea it precludes that data is simply nonsense.
     
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    IT class starts at 11. Try and be there because there's a lot to learn.
     
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    The difference is, at this point in Watergate the critics of the president included serious republicans...where are the dems today?
     
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    Forget trying to teach anything to the obamapologists. If you give them homework they won't do it and claim their dog ate it. Funny how they seem to follow in the footsteps of Dear Leader. IRS computer crashed? LOL! Indeed.
     
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    You had better get your name in as an eyewitness. (you know no such thing) She's going to need all the help she can get.
    Do not forget that perjury itself is a felony, eh?
     
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    In the end it is not going to matter whether they are provided or not. Whatever happened right or wrong even though I know no wrong doing was ever performed, none of it matters. Every task that occurred in the past and today is under a cloud of false pretense. Not by choice or malicious activity. Just by the circumstances of how the law was rewritten illegally, which is the crust of the problem. The way the law was rewritten is the "ONLY" problem. Lois Lerner unfortunately just got caught up in the problem, and the made up scandal that followed.
     
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    I know no such thing? Sure I do. And so do you. This has been a game of distract from the very beginning.

    But you are right. She will need all the help she can get. She is staring straight down into the belly of corruption and lies. And these folks are all in it for the politics. They've invested untold sums of money to drag this out all the way to election time. They had nothing, they have nothing, and they will get nothing but time. But the truth has already been told. Darrel Issa has lied his way into a continuous fake scandal that has no where left to go, but to continue more lies.
     
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