Hobby Lobby decision from SCOTUS, Hobby Lobby Wins

Of course they have to state that. But tell me, can you CLEARLY identify that line for me? Is this something they actually expect Congress to clarify? How many decades of debate will that take? I see a great new wedge issue on the horizon about this issue. This is one of those things that is impossible to police and will completely disable equality and freedom. Live in a town with a highly conservative judge? Congratulations, they'll side with you on pretty much any declaration using this precedent (as long as your CEO and board aren't black, female or a Muslim). Live in a liberal section of the state? Sorry, that precedent doesn't apply to whatever you are trying to slip by the taxpayer.

This decision really doesn't create an entire mess of problems going forward does it? I'm certain that it won't further divide our nation either.

 

this is fear-mongering pure and simple;and racist to boot

 

Obama has the means to do something right now but strangely will not act, instead makes a political football out of it. Wonder why? Dividing our nation along racial, gender, and class lines seem to be what democrats do exceedingly well.

 

It is? Because it's actually a very well thought out, logical argument about what is actually going to happen. Can you please explain, with a logical argument how I am wrong about this? The SCOTUS has now given power to local judges to use this precedent any way they see fit. And since 99% of all local cases never get to the Federal level, corporations (both large and small) are free to utilize this card in their pocket in whatever ways they can to manipulate the system at our expense. Congratulations. Another win for personal freedom! Go Libertarians!

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Explain please? What exactly can he do? Another executive order? I'm sure you'll all love that. How about going to Congress to pass an amendment declaring Corporations...well..as corporations, not people? Yeah, that'll go through easy. What solutions does he have right now?

 

um; no. it isnt well thought out. it's idotic race-based bigotry. you use the black card, the woman card, and the muslim card

nothing you posted is something you can back up

 

you cant expect to get a logical argument from a stupid one based on bigoted accusations you cant back up with facts

thanks

 

Clearly define free exercise, compelling interested, and undue burden.

The definition of those three will define the line.

 

Since the polls suggest democrats may have a wedge issue with this, they will go the route of not helping for political gain.

http://time.com/2941491/hobby-lobby-white-house-politics-congress/

 

The hypocrisy of Hobby Lobby contracting with China's cheap-labour manufactures, a nation that practices religious persecution and has actually mandated abortions, is blatant.

Yes, whether to impose a religious taboo is a dogmatic issue. It's dictated by the almighty dollar.

As the evangelical zealot Steve Green, president of Hobby Lobby, explained, "We believe that the principles that are taught scripturally is what we should operate our lives by ... and so we cannot be a part of taking life."

Liar.

 

Only the right is that cognitively dissonant to complain when it is about the cost of an ounce of prevention.

 

Then what's the point of insurance if employers get to choose what you can get ? It's not like buying individual insurance is cheap. And medication is already overpriced. A girl making $10/hr at hobby lobby probably can't afford to but more insurance or birth control.

 

So now isolationism is your new agenda?

 

she doesnt have to work there

wow!

 

Freedom and the Constitution be damned. So far that is all you have offered.

 

The benefit is not being robbed by the union and not being forced to fund far left politicians

 

True. Are all Unions left leaning in your opinion? I am not a Union person and have only belonged to one for a very short period of time and for the most part I think most Unions, not all, have outlived their original purpose.

 

shouldn't a religious owner be more involved in religion instead of secular and temporal Commerce under our form of Capitalism.

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Only the right is that cognitively dissonant to complain when it is about the cost of an ounce of prevention. And, they don't seem to have any problem with those with the most "gold" making the "most rules" under our form of Capitalism.

 

1. they ARE more involved in religion; that's why they dont have to fund things they are against

2.their "gold" didnt make the rules; the Supreme Court did

try again

 

There never was a legit purpose for public service unions AND, unions representing government employees should not be allowed to contribute to political campaigns. It is an obvious conflict as government (the folk who do the actual work) should be neutral on policy. That is for the politicians.

That said, in direct response to your question...No, while all unions are not left leaning way over 90% of their political contributions go to leftist politicians.

 

Are you claiming religous owners need Capitalism to "purchase" better privileges and immunities or a potential "stairway to Heaven", in that alternative?

 

nothing was purchased; the SCOTUS agreed there is an exception for religious reasons

try again

 

These are the nonsensical rants I'm talking about.

 

Since when is Plan-B part of a normal benefits package.

I would love to see proof of this.

 

religous reasons are subjective and Individual; otherwise, it is simply those with the most capital dictating "morality" to those with the least capital under our form of Capitalism.

 

This wasn't about money, it was about principles and religious freedom

And for once.. religious freedom won/

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So are guns... should they be covered ?