Welcome to Lviv, "the Ukraine's most cultural and elegant city"/PIC.VIDEOS

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Litwin it's obvious you haven't watched any Jewish programs, so instead of responding with stupidities, go to google and look up Wall Street and the Bolshevik revolution. :roll:
     
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    Dear Jeannette :blowkiss: DEAR yes I switched videos, above, forgive Moi

    Czar Nicky 2 was never, ever nice about his Jewish citizens.
    His Christian views required Jews be treated as equally culpable for the killing of . . . etc.
    My mother's mother & father (Pop) met in America but left Russia in 1905 when
    Czar Nicky 2 invited the Jews in his realm to leave.
    Pop had all kinds of stories of being rounded up by Czarist police and released because he was small.
    They figured he couldn't be anyone important or pull is weight at a labor camp.
    Sometimes he escaped by means that sounded like something from a Charlie Chaplin movie.
    One in particular, he asked a guard to leave so he could escape, the guard replied as expected, Pop poured his water on the guard who had to then leave to change into something dry.


    Jeannette, your review of Nicky2 is unlike any I have heard or read.
    Is it the "Orthodox" view?


    Also.
    Jews were barred from Russia and were in Ukraine as Poles.
    When Russia got dominion of Ukraine again it found it had all these Jews from the previous administration.
    So, Russia established - "The Pale", a zone where Jews were permitted and no further East.


    No
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    Not A Saint. No ! No ! No !




    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    No :flagcanada:
     
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    Nicky was a dirty big, read his diary...
     
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    coffee making , Lviv style )
    [video=youtube;vUvjmTndPxc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=vUvjmTndPxc[/video]
     
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    This is fine with Lviv, but how about Odessa? Kiev? Lviv has Carpathian Ukraine soul, but Odessa and Kiev have a lot of Russian soul in them. Kiev is in a terrible chaos now: barricades, throwing fire and rocks, again, no time for coffee making... Ukraine should be federalized, indeed or, better yet, divided. Lviv deserves independence.
     
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    what do you mean with Russian? ,Ukrainians are way more "Russians" (Rusins) then your favorite Moscovites .

    Kiselev-PutlerĀ“s narrative, Ukraine has never been united more then today, check out results of the last P election
     
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    [video=youtube;-f1yGpU0zwQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=-f1yGpU0zwQ[/video]

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    [video=youtube;3RCa2G-aXkI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=3RCa2G-aXkI[/video]
     
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    My Dearest Moi :blowkiss:

    Let me explain a few things. I had delved deeply into pre revolution Russian history, (I have at least six books by historians in my library), so I'm quite knowledgeable on the subject, although not an expert. For example I was always puzzled as to why the Grand Duke Sergius who was the mayor of Moscow, could have been accused of gross persecution against the Jews, since many of the laws would go against his moral character. As an example, his wife the Grand Duchess Sergius and future Saint Elizabeth, (who was the richest woman in the world and gave it all up to tend to the sick after his death), went to the jail her husband's killer was at and asked him to repent before he died because she knew that is what her husband would have wanted. I believe she also asked for him not to be killed, but the murderer refused it.

    I tried to find as much as I could on what the laws were in Moscow before Sergius was killed on the internet, but to no avail. Anyway my suspicion is that the laws were put in place before Sergius' arrival in Moscow by his brother Grand Duke Vladimir who was of a different character all together. Also the accusation of Tsar Nicholas being the one ordering the shooting of the people when they marched on the palace, is false since he was not in Saint Petersburg at the time, so again I think it was probably on Vladimir's orders....yet Tsar Nicholas was falsely called bloody Nicholas because of it.

    I came across something more recently that the priest who was leading the march was a anarchist and had plans on breaking through to the palace to cause a revolution, so they were not innocent protesters. Basically don't believe everything because Tsar Nicholas had a free press, and it was going rampant with lies. (Like ours accusing Putin with the shoot down of the airliner). For instance when Nicholas decided to distribute his own wealth among the peasants, rumors were saying he was going to distribute the wealth of the nobility.


    A Jew on a forum said that they refused to stay at the Pale because it was a poor area and they preferred Russia. I also know that a nation was given to them in the Far East as well, which they didn't want. The problem was that millions of Jews were going into Russia and carrying ideas from the West with them, and it was creating problems, basically the way the Palestinians create problems for Israel today. Not that these things excuse anything anyway.

    According to one English historian there was an average of about five hundred suicide bombings a year killing dignitaries, etc. This would be the equivalent of two thousand senators, mayors, police chiefs, etc. being killed in the U.S. today. The writer said it wasn't being handled right because the terrorists were being hanged outright, when they should have examined them so they could break the cells.

    As for Tsar Nicholas II, what he said when he went to his uncle's funeral was reported in one of the many books available on the site: 'Alexander Palace Time Machine'. As for the Orthodox Church, the stand it takes on the whole Russian revolution is that God punished them for seventy years the way did the Jews in the Old Testament, since their faith was only an outward pretext. I know the occult was especially prevalent among the nobility, and was brought into Russia by the Montenegran princess' who had married some Grand Dukes. Felix Yussopov who murdered Rasputin said that within one of their palaces was all the evil in the world. Well it came out onto Russia with the revolution. (Now that's my opinion). :pray:
     
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    It's a beautiful city Litwin, and as someone said they should develop it into a major tourist area, and not have the worry of being subsidized by Eastern Ukraine. If they weren't filled up with all this hatred for the Russians, things would have been a lot different. I know the original plan Lavrov proposed was to federalize the country into about six states. Today though after what Poroshenko did to the people of the Dombas, they refuse everything other than full independence.

    Just think about all the lives lost, both the civilians who were bombed and killed illegally, and the Ukrainian soldiers...and why, because Poroshenko refused to accept anything that Russia proposed. Or maybe Washington wouldn't let him. :unclesam:
     
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    ask any economist , Donbas is bankrupt many years. much like any other coal driven regions in Europe . so stop your lies and anti Kiev propaganda here
     
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    Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. :nana:

    You can call me a liar or whatever you want Litwin, but I have facts to back what I say and you don't. The first map shows the density of metals in Ukraine. The second map shows the income distribution in Ukraine.



    Density of metallurgy in Ukraine, expressed as monetary output of the industry per capita of total population.

    Dark orange: >2000 hryvna/year per capita;
    Orange 1300-1500,
    Yellow 240-250,
    Pale yeallow <5.

    640px-Map_of_Ukraine_political_Metalurgiia.png

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_...File:Map_of_Ukraine_political_Metalurgiia.png

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Average_monthly_salary_in_Ukraine,_FY2013.jpg
     
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    Yes, this is what they did. They have worked hard to Sovietize Russians and other peoples, who got under their control. They killed or sent to labor camps those, who resisted. Everyone was "loving" comrade Stalin, "genius of all times and peoples".
     
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    Kind of like Putin now, right?
     
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    Fiasco with coup in Ukraine is a product of EU, but they blame Putin. Putin is a hero in Russia and in the world. Unlike Stalin, he has a real support of people of Russia. You follow propaganda line, not facts. By the way, Putin is very good with Jews in Russia and welcomes their return from Israel.
     
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    Agree, Ukrainians are actually Russians, except Lviv and its surroundings. Those are rather Poles. Modern Russians are a mix of Slavic, Finnish, Germanic, Turkish and other ancient tribes, but culturally they are Russians. This is a modern nation, no "purebreds" and nationalistic poison. Lviv nationalists will be busted, because they are outdated in modern inclusive and increasingly bastardized world.
     
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    does your map showquantity of unpaid credits , and heavy tax frauds ? if not , why do you post it?
     
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    bunch of Goebbels lies, do you know a deference between Rusins (Ruthenians) and Moscovits (Modern Russians)? Lviv are Poles, its a joke of the day ...
     
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    +1....
     
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