70% Favor Voter ID Laws.

I like mak2's position. If we can get away with it, good for us. The culture of corruption continues.

 

Good idea...EBT cards with photos. Why are we not already doing that?

 

I see the liberal racists are still using the "blacks are to stupid and lazy" argument to oppose voter IDs.

 

No you just need evidence to accuse someone of a crime. Got any?

 

Why do I need evidence? Liberals don't. But, yes, there is a lot of evidence. After an election they check and find that dead people voted. But, since no obviously dead people came in to vote we have no idea who voted for the dead folks. We do know what part giggles and says, "Vote early and vote often." We do know which party thinks called election day "Ressurection Day" is a real giggle, don't we. Recently Melowese Richardson was caught, tried, sentenced, released from jail early, and honored at a Democrat rally with President Obama's friend, Al Sharpton, in attendance. A woman who was a foreign national registered to vote under the Democrat Motor Voter law--where the federal government told states that weren't allowed to even ask if the people were citizens--and once registered, she voted. But, she was let go because she just didn't understand that foreign nationals don't vote and no Democrat would have told her.

I'm not being critical, Mak2. You've got the system rigged for fraud and you like it. No one ever accused Democrats or liberals of having ethics or a conscience. We need to rig the system for honest elections but then what would liberals and Democrat do?

 

Do you actually think that was clever? Pathetic

 

Examples of dead people voting? When and where did this happen? How many time per election? there is no widespread voter fraud, you have fallen for this RW meme hook line and sinker. Voter fraud and free stuff is the only excuses the RW can come up with to explain their losses. Course they cannot admit to themselves their narrow minded doctrines socially and economically run off more voters every year. Yeppers, the reason you guys lose elections is dead people voting...

 

An interesting point. In order to really implement full voter ID the absentee ballot will have to be eliminated. Otherwise it is just a half measure and the possibility of voter fraud will still exist. I am sure everyone who supports voter ID will support elimination of the absentee ballot as a way to eliminate voter fraud.

 

It is the main argument put forth by people that oppose voter ID laws and you can't deny it. Turn on the TV and watch what they say. According to your side blacks and Hispanics are being denied the vote because they don't have photo IDs. Now there are only three possibilities why that is. They are too stupid. They are too lazy. Or they can't get them. The third one is patently false because there is nothing stopping anyone from getting a photo ID, unless you are going to claim that there is some widespread conspiracy at the DMV to deny IDs to minorities, and as we saw during elections in states that had voter ID laws minority turnout was actually higher than before the law. So the only two possibilities left are that you think they are lazy and/or stupid to get a photo ID. Which racist view do you hold? What kind of racist are you?

 

I am not a racist unless you consider stupid people a race.

 

Still didn't answer the question. Since we have established that there is no systemic reason for minorities to get photo IDs that only leaves the people themselves. So which is it? Are minorities too stupid or too lazy or a combination of the two?

 

The security in an absentee ballot is that they are only mailed to the registered voter's address and they are required to be signed. The signature of the voter is on record from when they registered and can be compared if needed. The main security is the mailing of the ballot only to the address on file.

 

So basically no real security.

 

In some states, Democrat operatives storm nursing homes to coerce the elderly with dementia to sign already completed absentee ballots. It's hard to imagine but these operatives are proud of what they do.

I live in Mexico and vote by absentee ballot. The ballot is sent to me by email. I can complete it and return it by email or I can print it out and mail it back in.

Those of us who want honest elections, which wouldn't be Democrats, will have to reinstate rules for voter registration. Motor Voter laws were designed specifically for fraud. That's the only reason the feds told the states they could not ask about citizenship. Same day registration is also designed for fraud.

Democrats are desperate to save their traditional right to fraud. What else can they do?

 

Outlaw registration? Maybe outlaw is too harsh, but at any rate, do away with voter registration. Just showing up at polls on voting day is good enough for them.

You know, wine and dine the older people along with a ride to the poll and a big dose of coercion.

 

Voter registration is to make sure that we keep the voting in the correct district.

 

you need an ID to get Obama Care and use it Is Obama trying to restrict minority access to health care?

 

Correct Southern Dad. I am all for voter ID at the polls. One poster asked, "Those of us who want honest elections, which wouldn't be Democrats, will have to reinstate rules for voter registration. Motor Voter laws were designed specifically for fraud. That's the only reason the feds told the states they could not ask about citizenship. Same day registration is also designed for fraud.

Democrats are desperate to save their traditional right to fraud. What else can they do"?


I suggested that these democrats will possibly try to eliminate registration so the hoards of border jumpers can cast a ballot even though most would not know a Goldwater from Dewey.

 

Rickity Plumber: "I suggested that these democrats will possibly try to eliminate registration so the hoards of border jumpers can cast a ballot even though most would not know a Goldwater from Dewey."

I believe some states allow you to drive in from another state on election day, walk into a voting station, register, and vote. We used to have to register well before the election date so your eligibility to vote could be verified. For Democrats, that's a negative. "Eligibility" is just a trick to disenfranchise dead people, foreign nationals, people who have already voted, and residents of prisons.

 

What states can you do that in?

 

That's just not true....

 

"Ten states plus the District of Columbia presently offer same-day registration (SDR), allowing any qualified resident of the state to go to the polls or an election official's office on Election Day, register that day, and then vote. California and Illinois have enacted same-day registration but have not yet implemented it. Montana voters will have a chance to repeal same-day registration via a legislative referendum on the November 2014 ballot."
http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/same-day-registration.aspx

The internet has a handy service called Google. Using it can save you from looking foolish.

 

You made the claim.

 

Sounds fairly reasonalbe to me. It even requires proof of residency and ID. I thought that was exactly what the RW wants. how is this a problem? How many cases of voter fruad has been contributed to SDR?

How SDR Works
Proof of residency is a key requirement in all states that offer same-day registration. In a traditional (pre-Election Day) registration, election officials have time to send a non-forwardable mailing to the prospective voter in order to verify the voter's residence before processing the registration application. Because that isn't possible with SDR, the prospective voter must present proof of residency at the time of registration. A current driver's license or ID card will suffice in all states. In some states, documents such as a paycheck or utility bill with an address is acceptable for proving residence. A few states also permit an already-registered voter to vouch for the residency of an Election Day registrant.
Voter ID: All of the SDR states also require that voters who register and vote on Election Day present documentation to verify their identity. Some states require a photo ID; others accept IDs without a photo.

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Preventing Fraud
In addition to requiring proof of identity and residency, without which a prospective voter cannot register and vote, SDR states commonly employ other practices to prevent fraudulent acts such as casting more than one ballot. These include: In Iowa and New Hampshire, a non-forwardable mailing is sent to each Election Day registrant. If it is returned as undeliverable, a second notice is sent. If the second mailing is also returned as undeliverable, the case is forwarded to law enforcement for investigation of voter fraud.
Election Day registrants in Montana who are unable to meet the voter ID requirements must vote a provisional ballot, and then must return within three days to provide proof of identity in order to have the ballot counted. Montana also sends confirmation cards to new registrants after the election, following a procedure similar to Iowa's outlined above. Wisconsin and Wyoming use similar provisional voting processes.
In Montana, SDR is conducted only at county election officials' offices, not at polling places. In Maine, it takes place at town offices and city halls.
In states that use electronic pollbooks with real-time access to the statewide voter database, it is possible to verify that a prospective voter has not already registered and cast a ballot at another polling site or via mail prior to allowing him/her to register and vote.
In Minnesota, the data provided by a same-day registrant is verified with the Division of Vehicle Services and/or the Social Security Administration, the Department of Corrections, and the Department of Public Safety.

 

Mak2: "Sounds fairly reasonalbe to me. It even requires proof of residency and ID. I thought that was exactly what the RW wants. how is this a problem? How many cases of voter fruad has been contributed to SDR?"

Really? You made the cliam so would you like to back it up. Valid ID and proof of residence. For example, if I were voting in the Wisconsin recall election could I show a Michigan drivers license as my ID and a registration from a motel as my residence? "I just moved here."

And I do like the provision in some states that a registered voter can "vouch" for an unregistered person to vote.

Not having valid registrations, with time to check, is just another scheme by liberals for fraud.