70% Favor Voter ID Laws.

Really I am the moron? That same lame argument could be used under the current system. How is registering to vote any different than having to spend gas money to drive to the voting station? So if it costs gas money no matter what system is used then clearly that has no relevance to photo ID and cannot be used as an argument against it.

Seriously are you that much of a political hack that you can't admit that you got caught in not one but two lies? You lied about voter IDs and then you claimed that registering wasn't free both of which are completely false claims on your part. You are a liar and a fraud and everyone sees you for what you are. I will post what you said once again to show everyone who the real moron is.

"Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) back at ya, sonny. Free voter IDs doesn't mean registration is free. Not by a long shot. Are you gettin' it now?"

And you are calling me a moron. Now once again......show me a state where registering to vote isn't free? Otherwise admit that you were caught yet again in another of your blatant lies.

 

So what? You have no constitution right to be coddled. Having to do government business at a government location has never been declared a suppression of your rights.

I have to drive right by a polling station just outside the entrance to my neighborhood and drive several miles to the civic center in the heart of town to vote. Are my rights being violated? That cost me time and money what about my rights?

 

Exactly. In Texas we only need to register to vote once, by mail, the registration card arriving - by mail, USPostal. The card is good for two years, renewal arriving automagically. It's the voter's responsibility to keep the State Sec updated on address change.

The ID part is satisfied with a Texas Driver's License which has a photo ID. The address should match that of the Voter Regis. If not then your voted ballot is accepted as provisional. If needed for re-counts or close votes, the provisionals are included. And any Driver's License that is expired would be used for provisional balloting as well. But then, in Texas, renewed DL's ae received weeks in advance of expiration.

I'm looking for the day those DL's are run through a card reader to verify as NOT forged, and to enter into a database as used for any given election. Should a voter try to use it again, that would be a request for 'free room and board' at the county hostelery.

Hassle free voting

 

OK, provide an instance where voter voter fraud did influence the outcome of any significant election.

 

Note several interesting points.

1) Article doesn't say how many actually voted.
2) Article doesn't say any election results were changed,
3) Article does not specify how they came to be registered.
4) Article doesn't specify party affiliation of the voters.

In other words the article really is irrelevant to the discussion.

 

Have you ever heard of the massive voter fraud in Chicago? People voting three and four times. Dead people voting. Thousands of votes cast in a precinct of a few hundred registered voters.

Have you really never heard about the presidential elections impacted by this?

 

How do you catch it? But you might look up Bob Dornan.

 

If one cannot trust the election process in that ANY and ALL voting was legal HOW does one trust the system? If you cannot prove who the frick you say you are than you cannot vote period, NOT an Obama period but a real period!! SUCKS to be you but get a valid ID.

 

Your trying to hid something if you don't want controls . No other reason

 

To bad my 80% against GOP policy statistics don't garner the same appeal here

 

It's interesting how the Democrats who constantly want more regulations are anti ID law when it goes against their agenda,(thanks CJ for helping me write that thought)!

 

That was fraud conducted by the political parties in Chicago. Voter ID's would have had absolutely no impact on this type of fraud. Apples and oranges!

 

With that type of logic you must be pro gun registration, pro stop and search laws, favorable to profiling, willing to have your phones wire tapped, your Internet monitored, your mail opened. In other words you don't need to worry about civil liberties if you have nothing to hide.

 

because they have been proven to prevent no voter fraud and strip Americans of voting rights

 

How do you prove it and what right is stripped?

 

We already have gun registration so that's mute ! Nothing's wrong with stop and search, NY crime violent crime rate has increased 47% since democrats rescinded the process 6 months ago only the criminals and the dems that insulate themselves from the citizens are happy about that. Profiling! The day you tell me that you don't judge another person in your meetings with them is the day hell freezes over.There isn't a person on this planet that doesn't. It's funny that the left finds nothing wrong with taking away guns, stop and search ,and profiling and find it OK for the current administration to wiretap, monitor our E-mail, and although Obama has yet to be accused of it ,open our mail. Me , I don't concern myself with those problems when conservatives are in office . You obviously don't concern yourself with them when Dems are in office. To each his own I guess . I'm comfortable in my own skin .
Alviedersien ! Your Daily Bread

 

Where do you think the term, vote early vote often, came from?

 

6,100 dead people on Nassau voter rolls, Newsday analysis finds

Evelyn E. Burwell's family was surprised to learn she voted in the 2012 general and primary elections. They knew she was an avid voter, but she's been dead since 1997.
Burwell is one of about 6,100 deceased people still registered to vote in Nassau County, a Newsday computer analysis shows. The former Wantagh resident, who died at age 74, is also among roughly 270 people that records show voted in Nassau County after dying, a group that includes a man who voted 14 times since his death.
Newsday's analysis of voter registration and U.S. Social Security Administration death records found more deceased registered voters in Nassau County than any other New York county, accounting for nearly a quarter of the 26,500 on the rolls statewide. Suffolk County has about 2,490 deceased people registered to vote, with roughly 50 listed as voting after their death.
http://www.newsday.com/long-island/...-voter-rolls-newsday-analysis-finds-1.6349860

And yes while the article points out that these are sometimes errors, clerical errors at the poll repeated voting by a dead person over numerous years is not a clerical error at the polls. And as the article points out and in opposition to Democrats polls need to be aggressively maintained to insure only legal and registered names appear on them. ID helps to prevent errors at the poll that occur when the voter is telling the poll person his name instead of handing them an ID with the proper address on it to match up. BTW wonder how many people move and then when it comes time to vote go back to their previous polling place and vote, which would be illegal and they may be voting for local offices in precincts they no longer live? How would you catch that?

 

It is only those who understand the necessity of liberals to maintain election fraud who oppose reasonable Voter ID laws.

 

The super super secret crew of election paranoiacs.

 

So of the 6100 on the roll approximatly 270 actually voted over how many years. Talk about much ado about nothing. You Republican paranoics are going to have to do better than this if you want a whole lot more regulation on voting rights. Maybe you can find shape shifting aliens who are changing the balance of elections. Pod people anyone?

 

Since it is hard to prevent and hard to detect we will never know. The fact remains it exist and there is no rational basis to oppose the common sense measure of voter ID. Who many fraudulent votes would it have taken to make Gore President instead of Bush. The final spread was I believe just over 500 votes in the entire state so just over 250 fraudulent votes would have changed the entire Electoral outcome.

 

Give me a rational reason not to have the common sense measure of voter ID. Not only does it protect voters from disfranchisement, it helps prevent clerical errors and speeds up the voting process.

 

oh god, why can't people understand that all we ahve to do is to create legislation so we'll have to show our Driver's license or ID card THAT WE ALREADY HAVE!



Why do people want to increase the size and scope of government more and more and more? Why can't they realize that we do not need any more damnable government to solve our problems? Why can't Americans learn to grow up and resolve our own problems without going to the government?

A new ID card is just another freaking scam to increase the size of government, create more bureaucracy that we don't need, and take more money away from people.

So of course it's going to get passed. Government just loves new money.

 

Well first you going to have to define exactly what you mean by "common sense measure of voter ID"