Republicans: How to lose the black vote

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  1. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's because of the extra treatment given to them by the Liberals and Democratic Party. Now tell me, has that helped the Black community more than hurt them? Have we eliminated poverty or even cut it down with the trillions that have been spent? Has it helped keep families together, or done more to split families apart?
     
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    Angry White Guys presuming to dictate to Black folks what's good for them is hardly novel.

    A case could be made for their having a death wish approach to politics, and I fully expect 2014 to be their swan song - especially if they get to control both the senate and house. Two years of nastiness between the TP berserkers and the corporate bumboys should finish them.

    There are reasons, of course, why Black, Hispanic, female, and younger Americans are disinclined to support the GOP, and the elective consequences of being so alienated from America are apparent and the inevitability recognized:
     
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    I am not saying we should do away with welfare. Some people need it badly. But we have given so much of it, there is no incentive to get off of it. There is no reason for fathers to stick around and support his family. If it were cut back where the father had to stay and support his family like it was before Johnson passed his Great Society program, except this time give enough to supplement the income of the family to bring it up to a certain standard, instead of replacing it, it would have worked. Maybe if only food stamps were needed to bring the family up to where it needs to be. Or maybe they would also need help with an electric bill. But we didn't do that. Now Liberals want to give even more. It's just crazy what we have done. We have hurt Blacks and the poor more than we have helped them and we still can't see it.
     
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    Well I have already explained why Blacks and many females do. Here is one of the reasons young people do.

    [video] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVyPjQki_3M [/video]


    Seems to have taken the web site down. Anyway, it's because of the teachers that are pushing Liberalism and cutting down Conservatism. That video was a prime example of how they are doing it. I wish it was still up.
     
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    So can you give me specific example or not?
     
  6. CJtheModerate

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    You can't lose something that you didn't have in the first place.
     
  7. Brewskier

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    Same challenge, ask a left-winger why blacks vote Democrat. The answer always reduces to "they can't succeed on their own and they need the help of us white liberals".
     
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    Answer mine first, Brewskier and see if it doesn't prove my point....

    in YOUR opinion, why do blacks not vote Republican?

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    Gatewood, tell me in your opinion why blacks don't vote Republican?

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    What "extra treatment"? Be specific.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    How would the GOP gain the black vote? LOL

    Some 90% of votings blacks voted based on skin color. The Democrats make this a race issue, when their own camp is more racist than the GOP.
     
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    Well, the question was, with all the talk about left wing racism and such, maybe some proof could be presented. I showed some right wing/conservative racism here, so the ball is in your court.......
     
  11. Professor Peabody

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    It's just the left wing nuts telling you that.
     
  12. Brewskier

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    If whites voted 95% the same in the way blacks do, Democrats would never win.
     
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    Affirmative Action is a racist program. Why do you support racism?

    Voter ID prevents voter fraud. Why do you support fraudulent voting?

    Republicans want to reduce "illegal immigration". Why do you support illegal immigration?

    Republicans do not want to "lower" the minimum wage, just stop Democrats from needlessly raising it. Why do you support lying about the issues?

    Thugs are of all races. Why do label them as blacks? Are you a racist?

    Black-on-black crime is high because of a criminal culture, which is why conservatives speak of culture, not race. Only a race baiter would paint it in racist colors.

    Liberals are blamed for creating, maintaining, and even thriving in racism because they ARE creating, maintaining, and thriving in racism. Your post is a perfect example of this.

    Republicans want to help people of all races help themselves. Only a racist would want to keep certain races dependent upon the government.

    This board needs to be educated as to how racist and divisive you and the liberal left are. Indeed, people like you are nothing more than Al Sharptons in white skin.
     
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    Just to once again, point out the dearth of answers from the Right as to

    "Why do blacks not vote Republican?"


    They can't answer. If they say "Because there is a contingent, if small, of white racists in our Party".....well, that's too honest.

    So they HAVE to come up with "explanations" which will be stereotyping and insulting to black people.....they have no choice. Regardless how much sugar they try to spiin around it, their answer will be something disparaging blacks as "lazy" or "greedy" or "stupid".
     
  15. Pardy

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    Good luck with your childish arguments and personal attacks. :thumbsup:

    Why didn't you just sum everything up and say, "I am going to accuse your side of doing everything my side does."

    Here's your problem: you have no proof of any claim you made above. None. I've provided ample proof of my claims about racism from conservatives, and you can't deny it.

    There's an old saying: "Put up or shut up." How about you step up and provide links to racist comments form liberals. Just keep in mind that liberals are not the ones advocating ethnic cleansing. Liberals don't support white supremacy websites. Liberals don't ignore the plight of oppressed populations. This is an argument you cannot win.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's an inconvenient truth that the GOP must face. I've seen no evidence of them trying to get discourage racists from joining their party.

    What I have seen are conservatives attack Eric Holder for enforcing racial equality, attacking Obama for trying to reduce racial tensions with speeches, etc. Of course, this is the mild stuff that doesn't mention anything about primates. But that's my point: it's just not a "liberal" thing to mock black people.
     
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    Obviously, you'll believe what you want to believe, whether YouTube has someone telling you what you want to hear or not.

    I respect Black Americans, Hispanic Americans, female Americans, and younger Americans for voting as intelligently as any other Americans, and have no reason to lend credibility to Angry White Guys' self-serving explanations for all of them.

    The fact that the best-educated states vote overwhelmingly one way and the worst-educated ones another is far more cogent that ultra-partisans of one ideology attempting to demean everyone who differs from them.
     
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    Are you not avoiding the real question:

    "Why do blacks vote Democrat?"

    Is it not because the party of racial division, the Democratic Party, begets an electorate of racial divides?
     
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    No, sorry - it's my opinion based on my objective observation telling me that.

    I'm not that easily influenced.
     
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    I beg to differ.Liberals and Democrats do not tolerate any such question or
    debate as in Why do Blacks Vote democrats.That would be like asking why doesn't
    Obama have those 2 birth certificates Authenticated.
    Or why won't Obama mention Fast & Furious .
    Or how come Democrats refuse to admit that Harry Reid was the one who
    refused to even debate the Budget let alone pass a budget,Obama's first
    4 years.Talk about Obstruction.
    It's all in the framing of the questions.If just One respectable Republican
    Presidential candidate campaigned on talking about the reason he feels
    Blacks vote democrat then he might be president.
    Look what happened to Newt Gingrich when he called Obama ...
    The Food Stamp President. The MSM attacked viciously.
    The more the MSM attacks,the more guilty they are.
    Of course Obama was The Food Stamp president.Does anyone think for
    a nanosecond if the shoe were on the other foot and Bush was up against
    Obama and Bush went from around $ 31 million on Food stamps to 47 Million,
    Obama wouldn't have bumper stickers made announcing that fact.
    That Bush was Our Food Stamp President.
    This is all common sense and programmed manipulation.
    Obama is banking on a takeover of this country by using extreme
    Edward * Bernays type programmed mind games.Giving off the impression
    that he is allowing citizens to grant their permission for him to do virtually
    anything.No matter how crazy.Like Open borders.Spying on everyone.
    Forcing citizens to comply with every Obama directive.

    * author of - Propaganda - { 1928 } The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the
    organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic
    society.Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an
    invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.


    Obama is attempting to gaslight the public into thinking he has their
    permission to do anything and that they grant him their support or face
    Saul Alinsky style Shame.
    That is why Obama gives speeches to very supportive crowds as if
    he's always looking out for their best interest.He's always looking for the
    element that needs fixing.Obama seldom speaks as if he's the one who's been
    in charge for years.It's HIS Policy's and decisions that most immediately impact
    the way things are.
    It's like Obama was never president.It is sheer Rules for Radicals propaganda.
    Gaslighting a public into doubting what their own eyes and ears tell them.
    Just trust what Obama says ... no matter how many times he's already
    contradicted himself.
    It is Mind Control to pollute the masses ability to think clearly.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me guess,you can play the piano right Ron ?
    I mean,after you have been successfully chicked.Like in
    babes and hot tomato's.
     
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    What's better than roses on your piano?

    Tulips on your organ.
     
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    That would be racist.
     
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    Liberals do support the racist organization like NAACP and sexist movements such as feminism.

    So lets not pretend that our camp is without wrong.
     
  25. pol meister

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    Your entire OP is an unfounded attack upon a group and persons within the group, and deserving of a far sharper rebuke than I gave it.

    What I did was to rightly accuse you and your side of everything you falsely accused of the Republican side.

    Here's your problem: you have no proof of any claim you made in your OP. None. You provided a list of "implied racism", but no evidence of racism. Just the typical liberal BS of calling anyone who disagrees with your PC world a "racist" for doing so. Your entire OP is deniable.

    There's an old saying: "Put up or shut up." How about you step up and provide links to actual racism, not "implied" racism. Just keep in mind that conservatives are not the ones advocating racist programs like Affirmative Action. Conservatives don't support race baiters like Al Sharpton. Conservatives don't oppress racial groups into generations of broken families and government dependency; liberals do. This is an argument you cannot win.
     

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