Kremlin disinformation trolls flood social media

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  1. freemarket

    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    Seriously? Did you actually have to edit a one sentence post? :roflol:
     
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    flogger Well-Known Member

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    I accidentaly posted it twice when my internet went down for a moment and removed the double entry

    What do you care ?

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    And why would you want this ?
     
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    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    Who said I did? I just thought it was funny that you couldn't even get a one liner right. Sad.
     
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    That's good news, if you don't belong to one of those groups. Go ahead and expose.
     
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    [video=youtube;vYhaPURiz30]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYhaPURiz30[/video]
     
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    Oh...you mean likethe one about how we have keptyou alive all this time?

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Okay, I registered right now just to hear your rationale of how it's possible to connect registration date and fact that person is trolling and paid for it. In my eyes it's actually pretty logical that russians register here just recently and voice pro-russian opinion.
    Guess we taught different kind of logic in college.

    p.s. I am Russian. I've been reading this forum for several years. I never thought I had to register back then to prove my legitimacy as not troll. Oh, snap
     
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    A brilliant show. Fantastic guests. Well educated, informed and knowledgeable. By the way, less intelligent posters on this forum shouldn't dismiss it just because the show was made by RT. Watch it, you might learn great deal about the mainstream media and their manipulation of the public opinion.


    Ukraine's civil war has grounded in stalemate and the economy is crashing. This has created an opening for dialogue. Will all parties seize the moment or will Moscow continue to be blamed?

    CrossTalking with Karel van Wolferen, Neil Clark and Gilbert Doctorow.


    http://rt.com/shows/crosstalk/184516-ukraine-civil-war-economy/

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    Gilbert Doctorow is a professional Russia watcher going back to 1965. For twenty-five years he worked for US and European multinationals in marketing and general management with regional responsibility. In the year 2000, he closed his corporate career as General Director in Russia and the CIS for a UK based multinational. Doctorow regularly publishes analytical articles about international affairs on the portal of the Belgian daily La Libre Belgique and has recently been a contributor of Op-Ed articles on US-Russian relations to the English-language Moscow Times. Mr. Doctorow is a Research Fellow of the American University in Moscow. From 1998-2002, Doctorow served as the Chairman of the Russian Booker Literary Prize.

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    Karel van Wolferen (born 1941, Rotterdam) is a Dutch journalist, writer and professor, who is particularly recognised for his knowledge of Japanese politics, economics, history and culture.[1][2]

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    Neil Clark is a UK-based journalist, blogger and writer. He is a contributor to a wide range of UK and international publications. His blog was voted best UK blog in the 2007 Weblog Awards. He tweets at @NeilClark66 and @PublicOwnership.
     
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    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    It is not so much that people are pro putin as anti- Nazi.
    Any thinking person needed no more evidence as to who was the murders after the Odessa massacre (human bar bq as they called it)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whqQCx6RXkY&feature=player_embedded
     
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    your trolling get cheaper and cheaper . an Urinal link?

    [video=youtube;6-IyTjOEeY4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=6-IyTjOEeY4[/video]
    read the comments...
     
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    Your credibility has been completely lost due to your backing the rape of an 8 month pregnant woman and the murder of over 50 people by either burning them to death or beating them when they jumped out of the windows.
    When confronted with the truth you lower your self to the typical liberal tactics that we conservatives have come to expect. Name calling.
    I for one have come to the conclusion that your reasoning is impaired and that you cant be taken seriously as having an adult perspective. I would bet my next pay check that you are being taken care of by someone else and have not matured to a point of personal responsibility.
    You seem to follow the "progressive game strategy of
     
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    Hmm, sounds just like the Jewish Hasbara goons who flood forums and social media every time Israel needs to deflect from yet another atrocity.
     
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    Please explain why you would support any group who commit atrocities such as this?
    1) They bussed in large numbers of Right Sector thugs.
    2) They then got the local football hooligans (paid by oligarchs according to some reports) to begin a nationalist demonstration.
    3) The Right Sector thugs then joined the hooligans and together they viciously attacked the pro-Russian tent city: the tents were torn down and the anti-regime demonstrators viciously beat up to a pulp. The local cops stood by and watched.
    4) The anti-regime demonstrators ran literally for their lives towards the building of Unions which had been their normal rallying point at which point they were surrounded and the building set ablaze.
    5) Those attempting to leave the building were severely beat up and many murdered. Many were shot while standing in the windows to flee from the flames.
    6) The neo-Nazis did not let the firefighters through.
    7) With each jumping demonstrator or each person shot in the windows the crowd would scream "Glory to the Ukraine! Glory to he heroes!" Many took souvenir videos. For them, this was a joyful, liberating event.
    8) The Ukrainian social networks flooded with joyful messages congratulation the "heroes" in Odessa and promising more of the same to the accursed Moskals.
    9) The Western and Ukie press reported the events as a "clash" with "casualties" but with no reference to any one party causing this massacre.
    10) The last fatalities figure was at 46. But with many dying from smoke inhalation and, especially, burns, it will probably go up.
     
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    This, today, by Associated Press (Unofficial division of the US State Department) columnist Ken Dilianian:

    Overlooked terror group targeting US aviation

    Yes, another scary new terror group that "poses a more direct and imminent threat to the United States..." called the Khorasan.

    "Rep. Adam Schiff, D-California, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, declined to name the group. But he described concerns..."

    "The CIA refused to confirm the group's name or any details in this story."


    Golly gee, this is hot and chilling news, if ever there was any! Let's start the Shock and Awe bombing now! What are we waiting for!
     
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    [video=youtube;Xmir4gtAcwc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmir4gtAcwc[/video]
     
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    Putin is a thug with a lot of assets and really no industry to speak of at home. If he starts rolling across Europe, it ain't gonna end well. Yea, both sides are tossing out a lot of junk into the media but I don't see any good reason to support his invasion.





     
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    http://youtu.be/fVYryzqvvy4

    I agree with taxpayer. If Russia gets Ukraine, they will work on the Baltic states. VIKA is a Ukrainian singer expressing her patriotism.
     
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    Freedom of the press is working so well here.
    "MARYLAND — Federal agents staged a pre-dawn raid on the home of an award-winning investigative journalist, and walked away with hundreds of documents — including a top-secret list of government whistleblowers.

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    Reporter Audrey Hudson, 50, has spent a career in journalism, once working for the Washington Times, then guiding her career into freelance reporting. The disturbing raid that she endured “shook her to the core” and made her question the security of Americans’ rights and freedoms under its current brand of government.

    The first thing she remembers hearing on the morning of August 6th, 2013, was the sound of her dogs barking. It was approximately 4:30 a.m., it was dark outside, and she had been sleeping. Moments later, approximately seven gun-wielding men wearing body armor entered her home and began searching the personal belongings contained within.
    Audrey Hudson (Source: Fox News)

    Audrey Hudson (Source: Fox News)

    Ostensibly, the federal investigators and Maryland State Police were raiding the home to determine if Hudson’s husband, Paul Flanagan, owned any weapons. Mr. Flanagan cannot legally be armed, as he has a record from the mid-1980s of breaking gun control laws; subsequently placing him among the growing list of Americans suffering under lifelong infringement of their inalienable rights. Police justified the 2013 raid by claiming that they suspected that he might have owned a “potato gun.”

    No guns were recovered from the home, and Mr. Flanagan was not charged with any crimes. Yet investigators took their time to examine his wife’s personal documents.

    Since Mr. Flanagan was an employee of the U.S. Coast Guard, that agency — under the Department of Homeland Security — was present during the raid.

    One federal agent, USCG investigator Miguel Bosch, began asking whether Ms. Hudson was the same “Audrey Hudson” who had written “the Air Marshal stories” for The Washington Times. The stories he was remembering was a series of articles that Ms. Hudson wrote in the mid-2000s exposing holes in the Air Marshal program. Of course, Mr. Bosch — a former Air Marshal — surely knew whose home he had conspired to enter.

    “I now know why he [Miguel Bosch] was spending so much time in my upstairs office,” Ms. Hudson later remembered. “They had pulled out every box from my closet.”

    Following the raid, it became clear that the agents were rooting through her private files related to her journalism work. Among the boxes were handwritten notes and lists explicitly naming the whistleblowers who had helped her expose problems in the federal government. These individuals had spoke under conditions of anonymity to protect themselves from retaliation. Yet, using a warrant that expressly stated “guns” as the reason for the search, Ms. Hudson’s private documents were carted away and placed into the hands of the federal government.

    Judging from the way investigators conducted the search, the documents seemed to have been more important to them than the guns that they supposedly sought.
    Some of Audrey Hudson's personal documents confiscated by DHS. (Source: Daily Caller)

    Some of Audrey Hudson’s personal documents confiscated by DHS. (Source: Daily Caller)

    “They tore my office apart more than any other room in my house,” she told the Washington Times.

    “Horrified doesn’t even begin to describe — but this shook me to my core, I was almost paralyzed,” Hudson told The Blaze. “I never in my wildest dreams thought something like that could happen in this country.”

    Ms. Hudson expressed fear that this type of government tactic could place a chilling effect on those who might come forward in the future to expose government corruption.

    “I feel sick to my stomach everyday since the incident,” Hudson said. “It’s not just about what happened to me – it’s about our nation, our rights and freedom. How can we be the watchdogs when our government has now crossed the line. Who’s going to trust us when we can’t protect our sources?”

    “They came into my house, they stole my notes, they’ve exposed my sources,” she explained. “It was clearly intimidation. We can’t just have the government coming into your house on a minor warrant and walking out with whatever files they please.”

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    FOLLOW-UP:

    Audrey Hudson went on to sue the federal government over the improper seizure of her documents — “confidential notes, draft articles, and other newsgathering materials.”

    In late September, 2014, she walked away with a victory of sorts. The Department of Homeland Security agreed to pay her a paltry $50,000 and promised not to do it again. The agency also paid $25,000 to the Washington Times.

    The settlement payments “cover just a fraction of the legal bills we accrued,” said Larry Beasley, the president and CEO of the Washington Times.

    While it was an economic loss for the plaintiffs, Ms. Hudson and the Times view it as a victory for journalists. After all, DHS promised that it would review the Privacy Protection Act. And she was assured that agents did not make any copies of her whistleblower information.

    However, the settlement was so small — less than the annual salary of one agent — that it would not even be noticeable to the behemoth agency. And its promises are hollow.

    There have been no reports of any accountability on the part of the agents that participated in the criminal behavior. Special Agent Miguel Bosch remains employed with the Coast Guard Investigative Service and neither he, nor any of his cohorts in the raid, have been fired or criminally charged after stealing Ms. Hudson’s documents.
     
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    Please explain to me why Georgia isnt a Russian territory after Putins army destroyed Mikheil Saakashvili army in 4 days. If he wanted it he would have stayed then.
    You do realize that Putin asked eastern Ukraine to not go through with a referendum vote to rejoin Russia right? He has encouraged Ukraine to remain United.
     
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    But sent tanks and anti-domestic-airline missiles?​

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    Why would they do that Donetsk makes one of the finest tanks in the world.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-UOqFTEvUY

    How did these tanks get past OSCE. Are you talking about those tanks Porko claimed they destroyed but there was absolutely no debris. They must have vaporized I suppose.
    "Observers from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) “have registered no troops, ammunition or weapons crossing the Russian-Ukrainian border over the past two weeks” (Itar-Tass)



    “Throughout the week, the Observer Teams noticed a net increase of young people (both men and women) wearing military-style dress crossing the border in both directions but did not observe any weapons among these groups,” the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission’s report covering a period from August 20 to September 3 said.

    The observers said they had regular interactions with supporters of the self-proclaimed republics. “Some discussed openly with the OSCE while others expressed their total mistrust toward the OSCE. At both Border Crossing Points, some supporters of the self-proclaimed republics explained that they are not allowed to cross the border with weapons,” the report said.

    The observers registered a decrease in helicopter sightings compared to last week but they were still observed at border crossing points flying at low altitude along the border.

    “In either case, in as far as could be seen, the aircraft did not violate the Ukrainian airspace,” the report said. (Ibid)

    The OSCE Observer Mission is deployed at the Russian Checkpoints of Gukovo and Donetsk at the request of Russia’s government. The decision was taken in a consensus agreement by all 57 OSCE participating States, many of which are represented at the NATO Summit in Wales.

    The OSCE report contradicts the statements made by the Kiev regime and its US-NATO sponsors. It confirms that NATO accusations pertaining to the influx of Russian tanks are an outright fabrication."

    What is the difference in the US funneling weapons through the 75% US tax dollar funded NATO military and anyone one else who wants to fund people who are protecting themselves from a junta democidal government?
    "NATO’s newest Eastern European members are handing over their Soviet arms stockpiles to the Ukrainian army, Russia’s Deputy PM Dmitry Rogozin says, adding that the alliance is in danger of pouring gasoline on the flames of that country’s civil war.

    Rogozin, who supervises the Russian military industry, has tweeted that NATO is asking its newest members to get rid of operable Soviet military equipment and send it to Ukraine, to aid the miserable state of the country’s military hardware.

    “In turn, the US is ready to compensate for the “losses” of the newly coopted NATO member states. The American military-industrial complex must be happy,” Rogozin wrote in his Twitter account.

    “By the way, this is NATO’s commonplace to put out civil wars’ fire with aviation kerosene,” Rogozin added."
     
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    I wouldn't bring up debris...​


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    i dont think so, we have all indicators that it will be Moldova first
     

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