Analysis of the causes of the crash of Flight MH17 (Malaysian Boeing 777

This is the best report I've seen so far on the crash of Flight MH17. This is the sort of analysis I expect to see from my own government as well as other western governments involved. Is it that difficult to come up with the detailed and logical analysis which would be presented to the public?

This is Informational Briefing from the Russian Union of Engineers. Evidence and facts available presented in a clear, concise and logical manner. It can be downloaded in different formats.


Analysis of the causes of the crash of Flight MH17 (Malaysian Boeing 777)


1. The Event, 2. Investigatory questions, 3. Analytical Group, 4. General baseline data for analysis, 5. The technical side of the issue , 6. The first version. The Boeing 777 was destroyed by an anti-aircraft missile system, for example, a "Buk-M1" , 7. 2nd version Boeing 777 was destroyed as a result of air-air rocket-cannon fire, 8. Analysis of the debris...

 

MALAYSIAN FLIGHT MH17 CRASH ANALYSIS, BY THE RUSSIAN UNION OF ENGINEERS

http://www.vineyardsaker.co.nz/2014...h-analysis-by-the-russian-union-of-engineers/

 

One thing is certain, there is no way the Netherlands, Britain, the U.S. or Ukraine will reveal the truth until they don't feel the need to propagate the lie against Russia any longer. The Malaysians are fed up, and they went to Moscow and are going to examine the plane themselves. A crime has been committed, but then again quite a few crimes have been committed and are being covered up by the Western media.

One major crime was the burning and hacking of over one hundred protesters in Odessa, and another was the bombing and use of white phospherous on the civilians in the Donbass. Vladimir Putin will not give up though, and will remain on their case until they have been caught and tried. I have no doubt though that all the crimes were all committed by the same mafia members that Vladimir Putin has arrest warrants out for. .

 

Thanks for ur post, seems like russian engineers have done a better investigation then the group of european investigators. Its clear as a day that truth is hidden, coz doesn't suits the version of russian/rebels involvement. There are 2 facts which are very important and indirectly prove that the Ukrainian party is guilty of crash of the Boeing a) SBU withdrew records of negotiations of the Ukrainian dispatchers with "Boeing 777" crew and still were not presented to us, b) concealment of pictures of the American satellites being at the time of crash over an accident site. Considering a present anti-Russian position of the USA - Americans wouldn't miss opportunity to accuse Russia (that they made) in Boeing crash, with providing proofs (that they didn't made). It is also necessary to consider who received benefits from crash of the Boeing and based on it to draw conclusions. Russia or a militia unlike the Ukraine / USA benefited nothing from accident.

 

Lives of innocent people and moral values are less important then goals of "big politics". Abu Graib murderers and torturers got away unscathed, despite obvious crimes committed in Iraq. Guantanamo is not closed by our most "democratic" president Obama. This airliner is just another tragic page in history of "spreading democracy" by USA and EU.

 

Sooner or later, but guilty of the tragedy with Boeing will be installed. And now for people who have a brain, obviously - are guilty of a deliberate attack on the Boeing, silly and evil Ukrainian monkey. I'm wondering, as will explain for the Western sheep why Western politicians staged hot embrace Ukrainian fascists?...Although sheep are incredibly stupid. Tell them what they are "exceptional nation". Sheep love to hear it. Therefore, as generally continue to chew the snot. In truth - if God wants to punish somebody, it deprives him of reason.

 

History is full of "exceptional nations": Imperial Japan, Hitler's Germany, now we have American exceptionalism ideology and, of course, Israel with its Jewishness idology. In Ukraine, only a crowd in the Lvov corner wants to be exceptionally valuable part of humankind.

 

Very precisely said.

 

It's frightening how far are powers that be in Washington DC prepared to go to get their way. What's more worrying for me is absolute apathy and unawareness of what is going on in the western world. An average Joe has not got the clue. People have been literally turned into zombies. Hence US/UK politicians and their allies keep getting away with the murder.

 

This is a great analyst! Thank you! It's true!

 

Too bad US satellites detected the ground launch.

 

It is just analyze, good analyze but we can't cool it fact .
Unfortunately and a source insufficiently authoritative to write down this information in Wikipedia or in authoritative encyclopedias (the author the candidate of science but in article isn't present links to military experts or other experts ...)

 

Have you seen this document?

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/Northwoods.html

Can it be the similar scenario with Flight MH17 ? (Similar it means provocation against rebels and Russia ) .

Who got the main profit from the crash ?

 

This is one of the main reasons for the panic of the birth rights crowd.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-...urys-bric-bonds-settlement-non-dollar-currenc

 

The US has to cut Russia off from the BRICS creating a new reserve currency monetary system. Thus the backfiring "Asian Pivot"
http://www.leap2020.eu/GEAB-N-86-is...obal-Geopolitical-Reconfiguration_a16410.html

 

The only bad thing is that US officials haven't provided a single independently verified piece of evidence to back up any of their claims. Posting personal opinions and far fetched conspiracy theories on Twitter and Facebook without providing any credible evidence for their ludicrous claims is simply laughable. However, various US officials succeeded in one thing, they further eroded US credibility on the world stage.

 

What an Amazing example of the infamous "Internet Circle Jerk".....your wrists must be getting sore.

 

I have found some more bad things ...

The first bad thing is the death of passengers of Flight MH17 .

The second bad thing is that scums created the provocation are still not arrested and nobody ( in the West ) are trying to find them .

The third bad thing is the total impotence of Western society to force their authorities to investigate the same provocations .

And the last ( the Main ) bad thing is the point of view of Western elites on its population as on the crowd of lambs that can be used in any provocations as a meat ....It is the consequence of the previous bad thing ...

 

That's just another great example of the level of your debating skills. Are you incapable of addressing the issue? Perhaps it's too hard for you. Let's leave it there. No one wants to cause you a brain damage by making you think a little bit. Meanwhile some further development.

Families of German MH17 victims to sue Ukraine: lawyer

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/families-...kraine-lawyer-085046868--finance.html#1QsyEtf

 

If by chance you people could manage to put forward something one could consider an "Issue", rather than a moderate adaptation of scripted propaganda....it is remotely possible the actual members of this internet site would do more than dismiss your crap after silently giggling at the pathetic position you must be enduring to keep people happy. Your juvenile attempts at insult indicate a somewhat undeveloped ability to use critical thought negatively....which I am rather adept at should your little cubicle mind decide to pursue ( do you folks get cubicles, or just sit in a big room).
If you decide we should play this silly game, please understand my grasp of both English and reality will make your fellow "Employees" laugh behind your back.

 

If they had proof of that, they would have showed it, but they didn't!

 

Malaysia is now conducting its own investigation of the plane and has gone to Moscow to speak to the only people who have provided anything factual. The German families who lost loved ones, are suing the Ukrainian government for sending them on a route that was dangerous. Also an agency is offering millions to anyone who has information on it.

I wonder what happened to the Spanish controller, because he said quite a bit and to be honest I'm amazed he wasn't killed immediately. He said there were two jets in the air near the air liner, and that it was Kiev that shot it down. Also that the Minister of Defense didn't know anything about it, but the Minister of the Interior Averkof knew everything, and that there were strangers in the control tower at the time.

The area the plane fell down on had been taken over by the militia. They also had the Ukrainian army cornered and gave them a forty eight hour ultimatum to surrender and with certain terms. With the shoot down of the plane the army managed to free itself. This area contains slate gas and was to be fracked by Burisma Holdings a company owned by Governor Kolomoisky together with Royal Dutch Shell. I assume this is why the militia was under continuous attack to leave the area, and why they refused so that it became almost impossible for a thorough investigation to be conducted.

Governor Kolomoisky is believed to be the financial backer of the Azov and some other battalions consisting of the Nazi 'Right Sector', and they fall under the Minister of the Interior Averkov rather than the Minister of Defense. Putin has an arrest warrant out for both of them for bombing Slaviansk and for using white phosphorous. The intent might have been to empty out the town since the people living there had objected to fracking.

What makes this even more interesting is that Vice President Biden's son is now the legal counsel for Burisma Holdings, and it was Burisma Holdings that lobbied heavily in Washington to keep the blame on Vladimir Putin for the plane shoot down.

 

"Facts and evidence" Now your just being unreasonable.

 

Because the USA rushed to judgment with lies, perjury, and other false "evidence" with much gusto, it can be safely suspected that the USA had a hand in the Malay plane crash in Ukraine.
Don't know all the facts, but enough to make an educated suspicion:

President Putin was flying West of Ukraine that same day, and so some genius in the USA regime, told the good ole' boys in Kieve that Presdent Putin would be flying over Ukraine that day in a red, white and blue airplane. Tymoshenko types got all excited and laid in wait for "Putin's plane" and then shot it down.

Now they are hiding everything, just as they hid everything they could about the Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Malcom X Assassinations, World Trade Center, Oklahoma City bombing, Waco, etc.

 

You aren't right. In the USA there are incontestable proofs




We sit with you here and we look in the sky, but the Ukrainian mass media will show that we shoot down by a our look planes