Russia Is Doing It – Russia Is Actually Abandoning The Dollar

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    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    Japan is in the process of amending their 9 Article. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/30/japan-pm-overturn-pacifist-defence-policy-shinzo-abe
    The US created the situation in Ukraine but didn't see the free election of Crimea going to Russia. Uhhh best laid plans gone terribly wrong.
    "the Guardian would admit in its 2004 article, “US campaign behind the turmoil in Kiev,” that (emphasis added):


    …while the gains of the orange-bedecked “chestnut revolution” are Ukraine’s, the campaign is an American creation, a sophisticated and brilliantly conceived exercise in western branding and mass marketing that, in four countries in four years, has been used to try to salvage rigged elections and topple unsavoury regimes.


    Funded and organised by the US government, deploying US consultancies, pollsters, diplomats, the two big American parties and US non-government organisations, the campaign was first used in Europe in Belgrade in 2000 to beat Slobodan Milosevic at the ballot box.


    Richard Miles, the US ambassador in Belgrade, played a key role. And by last year, as US ambassador in Tbilisi, he repeated the trick in Georgia, coaching Mikhail Saakashvili in how to bring down Eduard Shevardnadze.


    Ten months after the success in Belgrade, the US ambassador in Minsk, Michael Kozak, a veteran of similar operations in central America, notably in Nicaragua, organised a near identical campaign to try to defeat the Belarus hardman, Alexander Lukashenko.


    That one failed. “There will be no Kostunica in Belarus,” the Belarus president declared, referring to the victory in Belgrade.


    But experience gained in Serbia, Georgia and Belarus has been invaluable in plotting to beat the regime of Leonid Kuchma in Kiev.


    The operation – engineering democracy through the ballot box and civil disobedience – is now so slick that the methods have matured into a template for winning other people’s elections.

    In other words, from Belarus, to Georgia, to Ukraine, and Serbia, the US has been insidiously overthrowing governments not through outright military aggression, but through covert military, political, and intelligence operations aimed at manipulating elections and overrunning regimes that refuse to accept the subsequently skewed results."
     
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    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    Why the sheep are taught to hate Russia.
    "•broken the back of the AngloZionist-baked oligarchy in Russia.
    •achieved a truly miraculous success in Chechnia (one which nobody, prophets included, had foreseen).
    •literally resurrected the Russian economy.
    •rebuilt the Russian military, security and intelligences forces.
    •severely disrupted the ability of foreign NGOs to subvert Russia.
    •done more for the de-dollarization of the planet than anybody before.
    •made Russia the clear leader of both BRICS and SCO.
    •openly challenged the informational monopoly of the western propaganda machine (with projects like RussiaToday).
    •stopped an imminent US/NATO strike on Syria by sending in a Russian Navy Expeditionary Force (which gave Syria a full radar coverage of the entire region).
    •made it possible for Assad to prevail in the Syrian civil war.
    •openly rejected the Western "universal civilizational model" and declared his support for another, a religion and tradition based one.
    •openly rejected a unipolar "New World Order" lead by the AngloZionists and declared his support for a multi-polar world order.
    •supported Assange (through RussiaToday) and protected Snowden
    •created and promoted a new alliance model between Christianity and Islam thus undermining the "clash of civilization" paradigm.
    •booted the AngloZionists out of key locations in the Caucasus (Chechnia, Ossetia).
    •booted the AngloZionists out of key locations in Central Asia (Manas base in Kyrgyzstan)
    •gave Russia the means to defend her interest in the Arctic region, including military means.
    •established a full-spectrum strategic alliance with China which is at the core of both SCO and BRICS.
    •is currently passing laws barring foreign interests from controlling the Russian media.
    •gave Iran the means to develop a much needed civilian nuclear program.
    •is working with China to create a financial system fully separated form the current AngloZionist controlled one (including trade in Rubles or Renminbi).
    •re-establised Russian political and economic support for Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Brazil, Nicaragua and Argentina.
    •very effectively deflated the pro-US color-coded revolution in Russia.
    •organized the "Voentorg" which armed the NAF.
    •gave refuge to hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian refugees.
    •sent in vitally needed humanitarian aid to Novorussia.
    •provided direct Russian fire support and possibly even air cover to NAF in key locations (the "southern cauldron" for example).
    •last but not least, he openly spoke of the need for Russia to "sovereignize" herself and to prevail over the pro-US 5th column."

    http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/
     
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    This is an awesome list of strong measures to secure Russian sovereignty and to achieve international recognition.
     
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    My conclusion based on facts. Here is the timing development for these two planned wars in July and August.



    856. The war plan in Europe and Asia (9/21/2014)

    5/2/2014 China deployed an oil rig in South China Sea. It started a violent dispute with
    Vietnam because the area is a controversial territory.

    7/8 – 7/9 State Secretary John Kerry and Treasury Secretary Jack Lew visited China to hold a
    meeting there. I alleged a secret deal has been made between US and China. This
    was an important timing point. The war plot in Europe and Asia began after that
    meeting.

    7/15 China abruptly announced the remove of its oil rig from disputed area. One month
    earlier than its previous plan.

    7/13 – 7/21(7/25?) Unusual disruption of civil flights in Shanghai international airport and
    other East China area. News said it was caused by military exercises.

    7/17 MH17 of Malaysia Airline was shot down in Ukraine war area.

    7/27 Chinese Ministry of National Defense announced that military exercises will be
    conducted off China’s South East coast in the East China Sea from July 29 to
    August 15

    7/27 China military also announced that PLA holds 3-month long exercises

    August: Ukraine government force started a large scale attack on East Ukrainian rebel
    area but suffered a big loss.

    August: Chinese military drilled over East China Sea.

    You can see the key timing point is 7/8 and 7/9. After the secret deal of sino-America, two potential war fields in Asia and Europe started their war procedure. In mid-July, Chinese military had a big movement to gather its force in at East China in the name of military exercise where the potential enemies are Japan and Taiwan.

    In mid-July West media also started a large propaganda war on the downing of Malaysia airplane – a preparation to justify the expansion of Ukrainian war.

    The designated war over East China Sea doesn’t happen because it connected to the core plan of the Feds – the elimination of Kat Sung. China plays a role in that plan.
     
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    If you mean....trying to find ways to allow a Nations People to overthrow DICTATORS AND REGIMES...and you yourself used the word....Regimes....yes...we have been doing that for a long time.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Only when Washington can put in a regime that will sell out his people and hand over everything they own. How many color revolutions does it take to wake up the Americans to the fact that their government has made their country the biggest terrorist org. in the world.
     
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    "Moreover, none of these American military attacks on other countries has resulted in a better situation, as Vladimir Putin honestly states. Yet, the public and its representatives in Congress support each new military adventure despite the record of deception and failure.

    Perhaps if Americans were taught their true history in place of idealistic fairy tales, they would be less gullible and less susceptible to government propaganda. I have recommended Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick’s The Untold History of the US, Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the US, and now I recommend Stephen Kinzer’s The Brothers, the story of the long rule of John Foster and Allen Dulles over the State Department and CIA and their demonization of reformist governments that they often succeeded in overthrowing. Kinzer’s history of the Dulles brothers’ plots to overthrow six governments provides insight into how Washington operates today.

    In 1953 the Dulles brothers overthrew Iran’s elected leader, Mossadegh and imposed the Shah, thus poisoning American-Iranian relations through the present day. Americans might yet be led into a costly and pointless war with Iran, because of the Dulles brothers poisoning of relations in 1953.

    The Dulles brothers overthrew Guatemala’s popular president Arbenz, because his land reform threatened the interest of the Dulles brothers’ Sullivan & Cromwell law firm’s United Fruit Company client. The brothers launched an amazing disinformation campaign depicting Arbenz as a dangerous communist who was a threat to Western civilization. The brothers enlisted dictators such as Somoza in Nicaragua and Batista in Cuba against Arbenz. The CIA organized air strikes and an invasion force. But nothing could happen until Arbenz’s strong support among the people in Guatemala could be shattered. The brothers arranged this through Cardinal Spellman, who enlisted Archbishop Rossell y Arellano. “A pastoral letter was read on April 9, 1954 in all Guatemalan churches.”

    
A masterpiece of propaganda, the pastoral letter misrepresented Arbenz as a dangerous communist who was the enemy of all Guatemalans. False radio broadcasts produced a fake reality of freedom fighter victories and army defections. Arbenz asked the UN to send fact finders, but Washington prevented that from happening. American journalists, with the exception of James Reston, supported the lies. Washington threatened and bought off Guatemala’s senior military commanders, who forced Arbenz to resign. The CIA’s chosen and well paid “liberator,” Col. Castillo Armas, was installed as Arbenz’s successor.

    We recently witnessed a similar operation in Ukraine.

    President Eisenhower thanked the CIA for averting “a Communist beachhead in our hemisphere,” and Secretary of State John Foster Dulles gave a national TV and radio address in which he declared that the events in Guatemala “expose the evil purpose of the Kremlin.” This despite the uncontested fact that the only outside power operating in Guatemala was the Dulles brothers.

    What had really happened is that a democratic and reformist government was overthrown because it compensated United Fruit Company for the nationalization of the company’s fallow land at a value listed by the company on its tax returns. America’s leading law firm or perhaps more accurately, America’s foreign policy-maker, Sullivan & Cromwell, had no intention of permitting a democratic government to prevail over the interests of the law firm’s client, especially when senior partners of the firm controlled both overt and covert US foreign policy. The two brothers, whose family members were invested in the United Fruit Company, simply applied the resources of the CIA, State Department, and US media to the protection of their private interests. The extraordinary gullibility of the American people, the corrupt American media, and the indoctrinated and impotent Congress allowed the Dulles brothers to succeed in overthrowing a democracy.

    Keep in mind that this use of the US government in behalf of private interests occurred 60 years ago long before the corrupt Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama regimes. And no doubt in earlier times as well.

    The Dulles brothers next intended victim was Ho Chi Minh. Ho, a nationalist leader, asked for America’s help in freeing Vietnam from French colonial rule. But John Foster Dulles, a self-righteous anti-communist, miscast Ho as a Communist Threat who was springing the domino theory on the Western innocents. Nationalism and anti-colonialism, Foster declared, were merely a cloak for communist subversion.

    Paul Kattenburg, the State Department desk officer for Vietnam suggested that instead of war, the US should give Ho $500 million in reconstruction aid to rebuild the country from war and French misrule, which would free Ho from dependence on Russian and Chinese support, and, thereby, influence. Ho appealed to Washington several times, but the demonic inflexibility of the Dulles brothers prevented any sensible response. Instead, the hysteria whipped-up over the “communist threat” by the Dulles brothers landed the United States in the long, costly, fiasco known as the Vietnam War. Kattenburg later wrote that it was suicidal for the US “to cut out its eyes and ears, to castrate its analytic capacity, to shut itself off from the truth because of blind prejudice.” Unfortunately for Americans and the world, castrated analytic capacity is Washington’s strongest suit.

    The Dulles brothers’ next targets were President Sukarno of Indonesia, Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba of Congo, and Fidel Castro. The plot against Castro was such a disastrous failure that it cost Allen Dulles his job. President Kennedy lost confidence in the agency and told his brother Bobby that after his reelection he was going to break the CIA into a thousand pieces. When President Kennedy removed Allen Dulles, the CIA understood the threat and struck first.

    Warren Nutter, my Ph.D. dissertation chairman, later Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, taught his students that for the US government to maintain the people’s trust, which democracy requires, the government’s policies must be affirmations of our principles and be openly communicated to the people. Hidden agendas, such as those of the Dulles brothers and the Clinton, Bush and Obama regimes, must rely on secrecy and manipulation and, thereby, arouse the distrust of the people. If Americans are too brainwashed to notice, many foreign nationals are not.

    The US government’s secret agendas have cost Americans and many peoples in the world tremendously. Essentially, the Foster brothers created the Cold War with their secret agendas and anti-communist hysteria. Secret agendas committed Americans to long, costly, and unnecessary wars in Vietnam and the Middle East. Secret CIA and military agendas intending regime change in Cuba were blocked by President John F. Kennedy and resulted in the assassination of a president, who, for all his faults, was likely to have ended the Cold War twenty years before Ronald Reagan seized the opportunity.

    Secret agendas have prevailed for so long that the American people themselves are now corrupted. As the saying goes, “a fish rots from the head.” The rot in Washington now permeates the country."

    Paul Craig Roberts
     
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    And yet, President Obama in his recent interview to 60 Minutes praised "American leadership" and "sanctions against Russia" resulted in "improvement" of situation in Ukraine: peace talks and Ukraine is going to get her gas as needed. Putin did not get any credit, though. Steve Kroft never asked about the roots of the problem in Ukraine, it was all "Russian aggression...."
     
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    You seem to forget that the U.S. actions in Central America and Grenada were in response to Cuban Military Forces supply Pro-Communism Groups.

    The United States conducted operations back then in response to Soviet Expansionism and need I remind you about multiple Russian Invasions of Eastern European Nations and Afghanistan?

    We did what was necessary.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    You do realize that was the Soviet Union and they haven't been a communist country for over 20 years now right?
     
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    And YOU do realize Putin was KGB Chief during the existence of the Soviet Union...right?

    AboveAlpha

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    Your statement here is idiotic.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Where do you people get this stuff? You guys should love him since after the fall he quit the KGB and worked for a liberal politician.
    "After graduating from Leningrad State University in 1975, he began his career in the KGB as an intelligence officer. Stationed mainly in East Germany, he held that position until 1989.

    Following the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, Putin retired from the KGB with the rank of colonel, and returned to Leningrad as a supporter of Anatoly Sobchak (1937-2000), a liberal politician. After Sobchak won election as mayor of Leningrad (1991), Putin became his head of external relations; in 1994, Putin became Sobchak's first deputy mayor."
    http://www.biography.com/people/vladimir-putin-9448807#synopsis

    In the future do some research so you don't look so foolish regurgitating your cold war propaganda. I will call you out with the facts every time.

     
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    Putin did head up the East German KGB Office but when the Soviet Union Collapsed...Putin consolidated power under the newly created FSB....which really is the KGB under another name.

    While Yeltsin was in office Putin bided his time as he consolidated power in the FSB which is the true holder of Political Power in Russia as well Putin and his former KGB cronies have a massive MAFIA STYLE NETWORK within Russia that is connected to Drugs, Prostiution, Money Laundering...you name it.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I have given you a link to his bio if you really want to know instead of just making comments off the cuff.
     
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    And Pres. Bush the first was head of the CIA.:oldman:
     
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    Nope, Putin was known for his integrity, but since he cracked down on criminals he made some very formidable enemies. I mean what could be more threatening to those with no integrity than a man with integrity, and what would be more dangerous to one with scruples, than a man with no scruples since their calumny and lies towards him would be non ending. :oldman:
     
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    I don't know if this is factual or not. But what I do know is that we have been unable to discover what animal the virus resides in between outbreaks. Fruit bats have antibodies, but we have never found the virus in those bats. If there is no host for the virus, then it could be created in a lab via genetic engineering.
     
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    Yes he was...but he certainly did not change laws so that he could stay in power forever....and he did not seize control of all Russian Media.

    Oh...and unlike Putin he did not get all cranky as Putin did when Putin thought the Elf in the Harry Potter Movie...Dobby....was purposely designed to look like Putin.

    Look...I know the type.

    Putin is one of those well trained...I have to PROVE my manhood or else I might look GAY...type of individuals.

    Put ME...in a ring with Putin....I would make him cry like a little B!#CH!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    we must worry about that, russian way could make a sparks of fire which one make the trumph of war start
     
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    being a president does not mean to be in power. World Ruling Elites - that's what in power, forever.

    what the difference who controls the media?.. they don't tell the truth anyway, except for weather reports, maybe.
     
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    We disagree on much AA, but on this subject or at least this reply; you da' man!

    reva
     
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    I agree almost fully. First who do you think (if anyone, or [HINT] 'any thing') controls the 'World Ruling Elites'. I do think they and the leaders of the world Putin Obama all of them they are highly influenced by 'the prince of the air'. That prince will increase its grip on the world shortly. Lastly I don't trust Putin, at all! Why? Because I like him! A politician that good is dangerous, especially when they control for the most part the largest nuclear arsenal outside the USA. In addition Russia ie the USSR was TOTALLY humiliated by Regan and the USA. Does anyone with a brain think all those lifers, the soviet military men with chests plated with military awards are not highly pissed? All those metals, those proud generals we usta' see on CNN coverage of USSR military parades, that they don't want revenge? They might think, well I'm old, we are going to die soon any way, my mother, the USSR is gone forever and why not go our in blinding glory?' I hope that is not the case....

    The media today is all about what color panties someones husband is wearing...and other 'entertainment'. News is the last thing on their mind unless its self serving.

    reva
     
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    Thank you for this food for thought Jeanette!

    I believe it was economist Roger Babson who back around 1928 predicted a depression due to statistics he had done on what would happen if more than fifty percent of business deals within a nation were conducted in a highly unethical manner.

    Would you say that President Putin realizes how critical basic honesty in business is to economic growth?
     
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