The Russians Are Coming! The Russians Are Ccoming

The News of the day - find your own reference,
is manipulating the U.N. over the emergency of Russian Tanks, etc. moving into Ukraine.
The military guy fronting did say he did not have the pictures yet, but they know it's true.
Sound familiar? Hint: WMD & Saddam

In the 21st Century, does not stoop so low as to furnish doctored data.
No! Trust the RepubloCrats and their warism. After the defense spending and private profiting, we get to find out the truth. And even if contrary to the claim, "So What".

How hard is to get some pictures in the 21st Century?
A lone agent with a cell phone can do it. Even if no signal, record the images and find a signal.

By Duck Logic,
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck - It's a duck!​

And the West's claim of Russian formations in Ukraine has yet to be demonstrated. It smells!
It smells like a lie. It appears to be a lie. And proof remains to be forthcoming. (It's a lie)
Meanwhile, Kiev loyal artillery keeps killing. 2 teenagers at a shelled school about a week ago.


I have not been so ashamed of My America since the Vietnam Days, 1965 & after.
They attacked the the American Navy in the Gulf of Tonkin. Sure. Right. Uh-huh.
Well maybe only the first attack was real - Probably none were real! Funny except for all the dead.


Moi

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What It's All About
Ukraine, GermanBank's next Greece.

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No, the illegal invasion, occupation, and annexation of another countries territory and the following ethnic cleansing IE the Crimea is a lot more akin to the joint Russian and German invasion of Poland in 1939 which is not surprising in the least considering that Putin has come out in full support of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact which under the secret protocol therein established the Nazi-Soviet military alliance which divided Eastern Europe between them, indeed Putin is the Hitler of the 21st century.

As to visual confirmation:



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30025138

The Russians have moved out of the Crimea and into Eastern Ukraine proper, as it stands any Russian soldier and government official is a legitimate military target anywhere in the world.

 

A stunning examples of stupidity. I hope nobody with sound mind buys this. We have enough information about history of what happened in Ukraine, starting from Euro-Maidans coup. It seems some posters are either bottomless stupid or, they may be paid by some agency for posting more of BS to keep it on air. The truce in Donetsk is only in the name. The civil war in Ukraine to be continued.

 

2 tanks does not a military formation make.
More like propped and staged courtesy of Kiev.
That has been the consistent problem with all of Kiev's picture evidence.
Where are the formations of men and equipment.
Where is the support logistics like fuel.
Show Me. Show Me Quantities that confirm the massive Russian military move.

What of Graystone employees. Are they still bleeding and causing same?
I do not doubt each side has their few in there.
I doubt the military formations the West keeps advertising.

BTW as Reagan protected American Medical students with the invasion of Grenada,
I do believe Putin has the same latitude if not more to protect "Russian speakers" from indiscriminate shellings by Kiev associated forces during a cease fire.
How More latitude - because there is no ocean. Attached land.


Moi

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Right Herr Goebbel.

If it looks like a Goebbel, sounds like a Goebbel... over, and over and over again, hey what the heck, it must be Herr Goebbel. :

 

agreed

 

It all makes sense once you realize the Russians have developed cloaking technology which makes their tanks and troops invisible.

 

Well if Nato said it, it must be credible. They would be laughable if people weren't dying and if they weren't drawing us into WWIII. Russian army trucks (not tanks) have been going into Donetsk for a while now, but only after Kiev began arming itself to the hilt outside of Nuvorussiya.

Anyway I don't know what's going on with Russia, because anyone with half a brain would know that Kiev hasn't stopped its genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Donbas and it can only get worse if they don't start firing back. I think Russia is waiting until Nov. 16 to see if France will deliver the Mistral as it said it would. In the meantime over two hundred civilians have been killed with the round the clock shelling by Ukraine, not to mention how many have been maimed since the cease fire started.

Someone mentioned on a site that Kiev was planning a massive false flag attack with National Guards dressed in Russian uniforms so they could restart the war in a way that would arouse the world's ire. Also Poroshenko has to do something fast to please the Nazis, because he's being threatened with a coup.

 

In the meantime, NATO supreme commander threw his weight, accusing Russia in military build up in Ukraine: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...ukraine-as-kiev-readies-for-combat/ar-AA7LbdF
One important fact is ignored: Novorussia is not Ukraine, as we know. Moreover, a part of Novorussia is still occupied by Euro-Maidans.

 

Moi and RT know better!

Moi, you're sounding like a nut, even though I know you're not.

News media have limited space and time for pictures. All the data you want is behind the NATO reports. Yet you insist that the whole world is lying to you, especially your own government. The only reliable sources are the Russian Defense Ministry, RT, and Al-Jazeera! We don't live in Alice's Wonderland. Things aren't true or false just because you say so. There is a real world outside your mind. And why, please tell us why, do you believe everything Putin says? You think he's more honest than Obama?

You say you haven't seen it yourself. Well, what have you seen? Did you see the Vietnam War? Maybe it didn't happen. Have you seen Turkey? Maybe it doesn't exist. Most people see little themselves. They rely on word from others they trust. Your propaganda is to sow mistrust of the US government and trust of the Russian government.

What's funny is that you've often criticized me for relying on facts. Now, you complain about a lack of facts. Or is it just that only things you agree with are facts, and things you don't agree with aren't? So Moi is God. Hallelujah!

 

P.S. What will you say when Russian forces start killing Ukrainians? Demand individual photos of all corpses with notarized testimonials? What will you say if Russia succeeds in splitting off "East Ukraine" as a Russian colony and satellite state? You'll probably say nothing because your mission on behalf of the Russian empire will have succeeded.

 

We Know the Ukrainians have No Natalia Poklonskaya,
nor do they have

[video=youtube;tD_Y9iVq3kY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD_Y9iVq3kY[/video]

The CSA did lose the War Between the States,
but I bet their better music helped them wear their oppressors down.
Dixie vs Battle Hymn of the Republic, come-on. And my fave
[video=youtube;UVeSKwM--1M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVeSKwM--1M[/video]
"Hear", Southern Rights as States Rights in the 21st Century


Moi

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Mr. Bobov, Moi knows better, believe me. He knows our country in good and in bad times. What do you know about our foreign politics after WWII? Why EU and USA violated agreement not to expand NATO after Warsaw Pact was dissolved? Tampering in Ukraine is a continuation of aggressive politics by NATO countries. Russia must help Novorussia. Novorussia is not Ukraine. Did you notice that? Bobov, you do not know America and history of Europe.

 

And it seems if a Ukrainian does not denounce his citizenship and become a Russian citizen they will not get food or medical. Sounds a lot like the Mark of the Beast. Are they being forced to get Russian citizen numbers tattooed on their foreheads or wrist?

 

Russian navy steaming towards Australia.

http://www.news.com.au/national/russian-warships-heading-to-australia/story-fncynjr2-1227120928528

 

Ukraine is a peripheral part of Russia since very old times. The same people in Kiev, Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk or Lugansk. No racial differences, the same language and religion. Only a small group of nationalists from Lvov region supported in encouraged by EU and USA cause the trouble, but it will be corrected militarily. People will fight Euro-Maidans. Puerto Ricans are more different from Americans then Ukrainians from Russians.

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Yes, NATO is nervous, every country is nervous, 'Russians are coming!', this is like in old good times of the Soviet era. Enjoy it. How many military bases Russians have? How many military bases USA has and where they are located? Who is nervous about this? Here it goes: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/russian-bomber-patrols-to-reach-gulf-of-mexico/ar-AA7KUmb
What is permissible for USA is permissible to other countries. Wait until China will play a greater role in the military theatre of the world. China is much closer to Australia.

 

and yet much of eastern & central Ukraine voted for Poroshenko's party and other pro-Maiden groups.

and most of eastern ukraine voted in the election, which shows support for the Maiden-govt.

 

Tell that tale to someone else. Better learn about virulent anti-Semitism in the Euro-Maidan government in Kiev: http://davidstockmanscontracorner.c...and-neo-fascist-parties-waiting-in-the-wings/

EU and USA do not want to admit the fact, but this is the same story like with ISIS.

 

so you're saying more than half of eligible voters in Ukraine didn't vote, and many of the pro-Maiden parties didn't do very well in central and even eastern Ukraine?

deny, deny, deny. This is all Moscow has.

 

This is like saying to the allies when they went to war with Germany, what will you say when the Poles start killing the Germans? It makes no sense because right now Kiev is committing genocide on the Russians in the Donbas and ethnically cleansing them. Thousands have been killed and over one million have left. They destroyed the infrastructure so they wouldn't be able to come back, and have promised the land to the Nazis from the Western part of Ukraine. They are the ones we are supporting.

Let me explain because the mind controlling press has given you some very strange ideas that are far from reality. The government that Nuland put in Kiev was illegal. Most of the protesters were from Lviv. The rest of the country was not represented.

Yanukovich and many of the representatives were threatened by the Nazis and Yanukovich and they were forced to leave at gun point. When the junta put in a language law eliminating the language and cultural identity of half the country, the way the Nazis eliminated the Yiddish culture and tried to do to the Polish one, the Russian speakers and other foreigners like the Greeks became frightened. In Crimea they declared their independence and with the help of the Russian troops managed to do so without blood shed.

In the Donbas they weren't so lucky, and when they asked Poroshenko to dialogue with them so they could federate, he refused and began killing them. Because of what he's done to them, they will not accept anything other than total independence. Anyway you better start reading what Vladimir Putin is actually saying, and what his vision for the world is and not what the corporate media is telling you.

 

seriously bro, Godwin's Law.

 

People have a very unrealistic view of Ukraine, thanks to the media propaganda and some faulty maps, so I'm posting a language map of Ukraine from the Kiev National Linguistic University. It is a little different than the ones usually being shown. According to the author of this article they did a little sleigh of hand in the other maps and presented those who speak Surzhyk, a mixture of Russian and Ukrainian as being Ukrainian speakers. Actually Surzhyk tends to be more Russian in the Eastern part, and more Ukrainian in the Western part.

The faulty maps might have deceived our State Department so that the situation in Ukraine wasn't assessed correctly. They are not very smart. Also note that the Ukrainian government is made up mostly from the yellow 'Maidan' area which is sparsely populated compared to the more densely populated Eastern Russian areas and Kiev...which is also Russian speaking.



http://russia-insider.com/en/politi.../you_think_lot_people_ukraine_speak_ukrainian

 

And your post? Did you invent it, or did someone tell you?

Would you please document the existence of the "thousands have been killed and over one million have left"? Moi wrote that a picture of one tank wasn't enough. Then he wrote that a picture of two tanks wasn't enough. May I apply the same standard of proof to you? Where's your evidence? A picture of one dead body and someone carrying a suitcase? If "over one million have left," where are they? Where do they now live? Are they all at a Hilton Hotel? According to the UN, about 430,000 Russians left Ukraine for Russia, and are expected to stay. http://www.rferl.org/content/refugees-ukraine-unhcr/26654070.html Of course, why would you believe the UN when you don't believe NATO? Better ask RT! I wonder why all these people left. It reminds me of the Arabs leaving Israel in 1948 prior to what they expected would be Arab genocide of Jews. They too were "refugees." I expect these Russians have something similar in mind.

Fact: Russia has been an aggressive empire-builder since the 18th century. Fact: they became masters of propaganda and misdirection under the Soviets; that's Putin's professional background. Fact: they are doing what they can now to recreate the Soviet empire. Ukraine is a key part of their plan.

Ever since the 1930s, Russia has used spin and outright lies to justify its aggression, and well meaning folks like you and Moi have lined up to be its tools - what Lenin called "useful idiots."

 

This is an artificial adaptation to their nationalistic objectives to remake Ukraine to their taste. Those 'surgics can be easily found all the way to Northern Caucasus, Stavropol and Rostov-na- Donu regions. All kind of southern accents with admixture of Ukrainian pronunciation and some words. They should better ask those people who they think they are. They are all Russians.

 

sorry bro, but Ukraine is an independent country, recognized by the United Nations and the international community as a soverign state with soverign borders.

Russia may not like that, but (*)(*)(*)(*) Russia.