Zimmerman friend--'In my heart I believe he targeted Martin for his race'

Yes, news is not bought. But feelings and points of view are always there. Very often we don't know the facts, but people do know their loyalties. People want to make sense of things. Their passions and prejudices make the world seem understandable, so many people prefer them to facts.

 

I'd rather focus federal law enforcement resources on REAL race based violence. That's why the laws were passed that created the civil rights division of the FBI. It isn't supposed to be used as a political arm of the executive office. That is despotism, the dictator determining winners and losers in the justice system instead of the rule of law.

 

You tell me, when you see the President have you ever thought of him as a white man.

 

Can you give me a few cases where the President's actions have caused the outcome of a trial.

 

Personally where ethnicity is concerned, with his facial structure I think of him as an Egyptian-American -- which is pretty cool -- but of course, he still totally sucks as a president.

 

Don't know about that poster, but I went to law school, 17 years ago, and in practice today. Argue as you have in this thread on a criminal law exam and you will get a bad grade. Courts don't prove innocence, that is a preexisting legal state we all enjoy, and return to automatically the moment a "not guilty" verdict is returned in response to a criminal charge. Well settled principles in our law prove legal innocence unless and until someone is convicted of a crime.

You've done no such thing. Some random lawyer's half-ass site, a misleading quote from a prosecutor in a media interview, and a dictionary site are not experts, especially do not represent the state of the law, and they are not dispositive of anything. The SCOTUS case I linked is though. You have quite a lot to learn about legal research. If it's not expressed in a statute, related rule, or case in a controlling authority or court of competent jurisdiction over the subject matter and parties, it's not the law. You're welcome.

Whoever posted the Fla reasonable doubt jury instructions as if they were some mystery of the ages, if you find that plain language confusing, I feel sorry for you.

 

My son would have called the police, not attacked someone

You don't have to scour anything, because in my first post, I gave you the example of OJ, and the zero death threats he got. You assume as if I stick up for that trailer trash piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) Zimmerman, the truth is, I stand up for the rule of law, because when we end up not supporting the rule of law, we will end up like Mexico, Africa, or any other lawless place on this planet.

 

Considering his mothers side of the family why wouldnt anyone? Or are you going against MLK's dream and judging someone by their skin tone?

 

So if he was just an ordinary citizen and you passed him on the street you would have thought he was Egyptian-ROTFLMAO . Man you go to far with the comedy.

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If you saw him walking down the street how would you know his mother was white? Be honest you would have just looked at him as you would any other black man you pass on the street.

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Unless your son has been in that situation before, you really don't know what he would have done.

Please the rule of law has been manipulated to fit the needs of those in power since it was founded. The Justice System is one of the most corrupt institutions in this country.

 

And yet he is not just "anyone walking down the street" he is a well known man with a known family.

 

Exactly that is why you cats try to claim that you wouldn't see him as black.

 

Trayvon was an unknown man walking in a neighborhood that had experienced a rash of burglaries, of course neighborhood watch would be suspicious of him. This nonsense that Zimmerman had no right to follow him is BS. Trayvonn had no right to attack him physically unprovoked, now that makes sense.

 

And yet we know he is mixed who cares what people "see" him as. It doesnt change his family. And please stop lumping me in with people its nothing but flamebait.

 

OMG SBB, where on earth is there a better justice system? Are you trying to tell me that you are willing to allow lawlessness to prevail because there are questionable or foggy circumstances in these two cases? A grand jury in the Brown case is looking at the evidence, are you going to scream racial inequality if they find no evidence of wrong doing on part of the officer? Are you willing to accept that even the justice department ran by Holder, looking into every scintilla of evidence to hang this guy, so if they don't find any evidence, do you condone the rioting it will bring?

My son would not have got himself in that situation because he doesn't and never has acted like a bad ass. It is the exact reason that so many are killed in places like Chicago, and it has nothing to do with skin color, but everything to do with behavior and who they hang with

 

When did George acquire a wife and son?

 

you mean the media doesn't have all the facts correct concerning (white) Zimmerman? #shocking I tell you.... lol

 

Originally Posted by PeppermintTwist

I really don't care about old news regarding George Zimmerman and if you had comprehensive reading skills and actually bothered to read my posts, you'd see I have been discussing and debating the "not guilty" and "innocent" terminology in general.

lolol.

This thread is about Zimmerman. Period.

And if you don't care, why do you have a zillion posts in this thread?

Oopsie!

 

And of course Zimmerman presented an affirmative defense. He ADMITTED he pulled the trigger and killed Martin, that was stipulated in court. The issue was did he do it in self defense and the overwhelming evidence proved he did so, the prosecutor could not refute that claim so yes he is innocent of murder due to the circumstances of the shooting.

 

Maybe a typo:

Zimmerman taped an interview last Tuesday with Univision and Fusion, and then took his girlfriend, her kid and his brother to the beach. While they were catching some rays, people noticed him, started harassing him, and then someone shouted out George had a $10,000 bounty on his head.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/02/18/george-zimmerman-miami-tv-interviews-bounty/#ixzz3JKrXCGpx

 

I see, you think threatening to kill somebody is A-ok in your book. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

Oh good grief. Try reading that aloud to yourself for an idea of how dumb it sounds...

 

For your own good it's time to drop this subject and focus your energy on someting else.

What ever his motives may have been the point is irrelevant. He was tried and found innocent and the shooting justifiable as self defence. Anymore talk about this will get you nowhere move along sir.

 

The prosecution of Al Capone for tax evasion. President Hoover wanted Capone. The judge in the trial was handpicked, as was the jury by the judge.

 

damn... it's just tough to be a race-baiter that doesn't know history

 

There are likely dozens more cases we don't know about. Why wouldn't there be? Are we so virtuous a people that even our elected leaders are incorruptible? Of course not.