Russia shifts to tougher economic policies in Ukraine

I do not understand your support of Russia and Putin.

Do you understand WHY Putin annexed the Crimea?

It was because U.S. Drilling Companies determined that the Crimea held more than 1000 Times the amount of Natural Gas that previous Russian Drilling Teams had determined.

Putin knew that the Ukraine could use advanced U.S. Drilling Tech. and then use it's own Ukrainian Natural Gas Pipeline to replace Russia as the #1 Supplier of Natural Gas to Europe.

This was Putin using Military Force to accomplish a BUSINESS GOAL!!

How can you justify that?

AboveAlpha

 

The world cannot survive without Russian gas, oil and certain minerals, so it can stop deliveries to Europe and/or the Nato countries, and/or the countries supporting Nazi ideals...which Russia might just do you know?

 

Yeah that's not going to happen because the Russian Economy is 80% based upon Energy Exports.

Cutting Natural Gas shipments to Europe would simply be like Russia cutting it's own throat.

AboveAlpha

 

And just for the record this battle is really already over.

Putin shrugged off limited sanctions so the U.S. and Canada flooded the worlds Oil Market.

The result?

The Ruble has been rendered almost worthless...the Russian Economy is in freefall and business in Russia will now only accept U.S. Dollars or Euro's.

Putin has no choice.

AboveAlpha

 

Just one question!
Why the EU doesn't see the refugees from Ukraine and all of them go to Russia!
Be reasonable!

 

Putin doesn't have a face saving way out of this. If Putin backs down he will be accused of turning his back on pro-Russian nationalists fighting a pro-western group who sold their nation out to the EU.

If Putin allows the rebels to be slaughtered then it undoes his image as a savor of oppressed Russian people everywhere, who just happen to be living under the banner of another nation.

 

Sure he is to have?! I think, You paid for the dance, You are to jig!

 

I have been in Ukraine, have friends and relatives there. Some of them live in Kiev. As far as I know people of this region, I cannot imagine how they would become enemies of Russia and members of NATO. I am also familiar with vicious nationalists of Lvov region, Carpathian region and Bandera fighters. This is why I think this way. My former students live and work in Ukraine. They all know well and love Russia.

 

I like it! You judge Putin as Your pet! Go on!

 

I really don't see why you think what is going on is a good thing because it is not ESPECIALLY for Russia.

AboveAlpha

 

I don't understand, why are you showing me your jackalopes?

 

I see! But I also see no threat for Russia! But You should take care! Russia isn't threatening You, but You are gonna protect yourself on the border with Russia! That's obvious! Have You lost anything here, or just wanna return Alaska?
Never trouble trouble.. That's wise!

 

"Study, study and study! But remember: You'll die without getting the red line of the life"!
Not me! Someone I remember.

 

We KNOW Russia is no longer a threat to the United States but Russia is a threat to it's neighbors and that is something that we cannot allow.

AboveAlpha

 

The US is projecting its own corporate desires and intents towards Russia. To Washington and its corporations the Crimea means oil and gas as well as to encircle Russia with a Nato base. But to Russia Crimea is important for four reasons. One is for security and to keep the US from encircling it. Two is that its home to Russia's only warm water port. Three that its two hundred year old base controls its Black Sea Fleet, and more recently its Mediterranean fleet which Russia is enlarging because of the Turkish threat in the E. Mediterranean. And four the religious and historical connection Crimea has to Russia.

Russia was baptized in Crimea one thousand years ago. And a lot of Russian blood was spilled not only to free it from the Ottomans, but more recently from the Nazis. It is as much a part of Russia as Boston and Philadelphia is to the US. The people living in Crimea are Russians. They love Russia, they speak Russian, they marry Russians and they go to Russian schools. Had the people there not voted to leave Crimea after the illegitimate coup, they would have been bombed and ethnically cleansed the way Donbas was in order to change the ethnic composition of Ukraine.

When Yanukovich was threatened at gun point to leave, the Ukrainian Rada passed a law eliminating the Russian language in Ukraine. When some people from Crimea when to Kiev to protest, they were put on buses which were later stopped by the Right Sector. The Nazis killed two protesters and the rest were tormented and harassed for six hours.

When these Russians returned to Crimea, the Crimean government kicked out the governor from Kiev and took over the administration building. They then declared their independence and in order to legalize it they decided to hold a referendum and invited over one hundred nations to watch over it. When they found out that another coup was being planned for Crimea, they asked Russia to help them, and so the Russian secret service together with the Crimean national guard secured all the borders.

Alpha to understand what is going on in Ukraine, try to imagine a foreign country like France arousing the French Canadians into having a coup so they could take control of the Canadian government. And then to make sure the French criminal oligarchs will always be in control of the government and its wealth, they began to ethnically cleanse the English speaking people.

 

100% Russia propaganda and dishonesty.

they never banned the speaking of Russian.

 

None of this matters....we had a DEAL!

I have sent more time in various former Soviet HELL HOLES than I care to remember.

I am a VERY COLD WARRIOR....and back in the late 1990's and early 2000's I learned to love the Russian People.

We spent over $350 BILLION!!!

The DEAL was we get rid of the weapons that were now threatening Russia....and Russia promises NEVER to invade it's neighbors!!

Putin broke the DEAL.

And now the people of Russia are paying for it.

Russia cannot continue as a Nation under the current pressure of the United States...THAT...is a FACT.

AboveAlpha

 

Alpha, Russia only cares about the lives of the Russian people, otherwise it could care less for Europe. The desire Russia had to create a union going from Germany to Shanghai left them when Europe refused to reject Washington's lies and hypocrisy. When Putin went to China he signed fifty deals. They were not just for gas and to build pipe lines, they were also to unite in technology, industries, defenses, etc. Russia and China are now one body with two heads.

 

Again...this does not matter either.

Russia made a DEAL with the United States.

Putin broke that DEAL.

A country does NOT break a DEAL with the United States and think there will be no consequences.

AboveAlpha

 

Alpha I have news for you, Pres. Bush the First made a deal not to put Nato bases in former Warsaw nations. It was first broken by Clinton, then by Pres. Bush Jr., and then by Obama. Each one of them added more bases. This is a fact.

 

You know very well they did, and then when they realized the mistake they made they repealed it. They even had a fight in the Rada about it being the reason they lost Crimea.

 

Abovealpha, you knowledge of the deals is below alpha. You missed this point: NO NATO EXPANSION. This deal had been broken. This is a medicinal fact.

 

sorry, but its simply not true.

Ukraine parliament never banned the speaking of Russian.

 

You are correct.

I was there in that region at the time....and I know what went on.

When Bush agreed to this all those former Warsaw Pact and former Soviet Satellite Nations went...."WHAT THE F@#K?"

They had been under Soviet rule for so long all they wanted to do was put as much distance between themselves from Moscow as possible.

The United States did not go after these nations for NATO membership....they went after NATO membership all on their own and under NATO Membership guidelines they had a RIGHT to apply for membership and as NATO is not just the U.S. and agreement between Russia and the U.S. specific to NATO was void and Russia KNEW THIS GOING IN!!!

Look....Putin knows the U.S. has absolutely ZERO intentions of attacking Russia and we certainly would not have spent over $350 Billion helping Russia if we did.

This is all about MONEY!!!

It is about Putin protecting the real money brokers in Russia and nothing else.

AboveAlpha

 

Pronin...you have no idea who I am...you have no idea what I have done...and you could not believe what I have gone through to protect the average Russian Family.

Back in the late 1990's my Team stopped over 14 attempts at Domestic Terrorism in Russia.

All attempts were made by people and groups of FORMER SOVIET STATES!!!

It P!$$E$ ME OFF TO NO END.....that Putin broke the DEAL.

AboveAlpha