Ukrainian neo nazi fascists targetting businesses run by ethnic Russians

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by MurkyFogsFutureLogs, Dec 29, 2014.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. MurkyFogsFutureLogs

    MurkyFogsFutureLogs New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    592
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    0
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ae9_1419800361

    [​IMG]

    This is the fascism West Ukrainians have come to love, in the video a group of Ukrainian neo nazi's enter an ethnic Russian's business and then dish out mob violence, all thanks to the U.S backed coup of the last legitimate Ukrainian government.

    Russia's concerns with neo-Nazi fascism in West Ukraine are not unfounded, made up or propaganda, they are real concerns in regards to a real threat.

    (Apologies for title spelling mistake.)
     
  2. Face. Your

    Face. Your Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2013
    Messages:
    5,847
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Yet another Russian troll claiming to be from the West. :roll:

    More staged fascist bull(*)(*)(*)(*) straight from the Kremlin ministry of propaganda. You people need to get some better actors it's laughable they literally can't even keep a straight face. Save your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) for the RT discussion pages because we've had about enough of you people here.
     
  3. MurkyFogsFutureLogs

    MurkyFogsFutureLogs New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    592
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    0
    While I admit I cannot independently verify the authenticity of the material I have provided, and that I cannot speak Russian, I take minor exception to your accusation that I am Russian and await evidence of your claims that one I'm Russian and two that the material I have provided is faked.

    Judging by your reply to the OP, I'd take a guess that accusing people of being trolls when confronted with material that goes against your adopted world view is a tactic that you've used before, and is just that, a tactic.

    (A guess validated by the discovery of similar responses posted by yourself in other threads.)
     
  4. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    The Washington backed western Ukrainians constitute a small minority. They know that they cannot retain power in a real election, and Ukraine is bound to have one someday. So in order to retain power in the government, they have to change the ethnic composition of Ukraine by killing off and/or chasing away as many Russians as possible.

    The Banderites see nothing wrong with it. They established their nation under Nazi Germany by following Bandera and killing off all the Poles, Jews and Armenians in an area which was always a part of Poland. These people equate cruelty with strength and feel it's the only way to build a nation. The fact that they never lived on any land other land in Ukraine other than Galatia doesn't matter. But then again if they weren't Nazis and had a sense of right and wrong would we be supporting them? I think not!


    [video=youtube;wnUdc2fD9pg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnUdc2fD9pg[/video]
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,464
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113



    unlike Crimea, Donetsk, and Lugansk, Ukraine already did have a real parliamentary and presidential election, without intimidation by armed thugs with foreign allegiances
     
  6. Borat

    Borat Banned

    Joined:
    May 18, 2011
    Messages:
    23,909
    Likes Received:
    9,859
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Indeed you can't, why are you interpreting in your OP the events in the video you can't possibly understand? And your interpretation is pure lie. From the very first second of the video the Russian speaking guy behaves extremely nasty and rudely deliberately name-calling, insulting and cursing the woman and guys who came with her. He is just as guilty of provoking the confrontation as she is or perhaps more and the issue is not that the guy is ethnic Russian but that the money from the business flow to Russia which happens to be the invader and occupier of Ukraine.

    The Russian speaking dude wants to call Ukrainian cops, I guess he has more faith in the government and law enforcement of Ukraine than some forum idiots regurgitating mindlessly Kremlin lies, people who learned nothing from Stalin's useful idiots and are happy to play the role of Putin's useful idiots. Duh
     
  7. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Don't put yourself on the defensive, because those who accuse others of being a troll are usually trolls themselves. They have no credibility and are sometimes even paid to foster their agenda.

    THIS IS WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE YOU KNOW!


    [​IMG]..
     
  8. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,464
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Meanwhile Russia daily celebrate the mass-murderer Stalin, and worship him as a God.

    and YOU defend these actions.
     
  9. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female

    You're funny! I guess Ukraine was always part of the US and not Russia? When did they give up the English language? :roflol: Does this also mean the Banderite Nazis aren't really armed thugs? Hmmm, I wonder who these people in the videos are?


    [video=youtube;5emKLbUTu3k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5emKLbUTu3k[/video]
     
  10. MurkyFogsFutureLogs

    MurkyFogsFutureLogs New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    592
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Oh right, please tell me, if you own a business or if you owned a business how would you react to a group of individuals bursting in, most dressed in black with their faces covered? Would you cower? Or would you defend what you have? That's all I can see going on here, and I don't need to understand Russian to figure that out.
     
  11. MurkyFogsFutureLogs

    MurkyFogsFutureLogs New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    592
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The Russian people have a legitimate justification for praising Stalin's defence of their homeland from the Nazi's, the Russian's were the only people invaded by Nazi-Germany whom were then able to repulse the invasion and reverse the roles, every other nation invaded by Nazi-Germany had capitulated to the Nazi's.

    The Russian people aren't praising Stalin's mass executions, they're praising Stalin's defence of the motherland. The U.S government on the other hand, murdered hundreds of thousands of civilians, (some with atom bombs) while being on the offensive, not the defensive, and that marks a clear difference between the actions of Soviet Russia and the U.S, in and around WW2.
     
  12. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,464
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Stalin wasn't defending Russia from 1939 to 1941, he was aiding Nazi aggression and tyranny.
     
  13. Borat

    Borat Banned

    Joined:
    May 18, 2011
    Messages:
    23,909
    Likes Received:
    9,859
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Now, this is a reasonable statement, compare it with the inflammatory incorrect insulting nonsense you wrote in your OP, having no idea whatsoever what the argument was all about.

    PS he didn't need to defend what he had, they were there to shame him, not rob him and he would cower if they were real Nazis, the fact that he didn't and was quite confident in police protection tells you all you need to know about the lies and propaganda made up by Kremlin and mindlessly spewed in posts like the OP.
     
  14. trout mask replica

    trout mask replica New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2012
    Messages:
    12,320
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Also the United States, for ideological reasons in defence of capitalism, propped up the Nazi regime by way of massive inward investment.
     
  15. MurkyFogsFutureLogs

    MurkyFogsFutureLogs New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    592
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    0
    We must have seen two different videos, in this one he gets dragged out by the mob, out of his own business. To what end? To be beaten? To allow the mob free reign to destroy and loot his business? I don't know, but anything is possible right?
     
  16. Borat

    Borat Banned

    Joined:
    May 18, 2011
    Messages:
    23,909
    Likes Received:
    9,859
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, we saw the same video but you had absolutely no idea what they were arguing about and were just running off your mouth spewing total nonsense making wild bogus accusations and making things up. Par for the course among Putin lovers I realize.
     
  17. trout mask replica

    trout mask replica New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2012
    Messages:
    12,320
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Yes, and prior to the coup, a pro-Russian Ukrainian president won it. Inconvenient, I know.
     
  18. MurkyFogsFutureLogs

    MurkyFogsFutureLogs New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    592
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Oh so I didn't see the shop owner getting punched/kicked and dragged out of the property? We must have seen a different video then, unless my eyes are making everything up? Maybe I'm hallucinating? Or maybe you're spewing baseless bile trying to deny what happens before our own eyes in the clip?
     
  19. trout mask replica

    trout mask replica New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2012
    Messages:
    12,320
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    0
    An incredible illusion. David Blaine is a genius.
     
  20. Borat

    Borat Banned

    Joined:
    May 18, 2011
    Messages:
    23,909
    Likes Received:
    9,859
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You did not hear the owner acting as a rude, nasty a$shole, insulting, name-calling, threatening, cursing like a drunk sailor in front of women (considered very rude thing to do in Ukraine), deliberately provoking the confrontation. You had no idea about the reason for the dispute which had nothing to do with the owner being ethnic Russian (it's not even clear if he is) but with his business sending money to Russia which is the occupier and enemy state. You called the visitors neo-nazis (it's in the title of the thread) without having the slightest idea who they are, what they represent and what they want.

    No one was dragging him out of the office either btw, they were restraining him after having cursed and insulted the woman he started a fight with her. If your wife was insulted the way this scumbag was insulting her, I hope for your own sake you would have the guts to kick his a#s.


    The owner is just as guilty of the confrontation as the woman and you should not post sh*t you can't possibly understand, your projections and interpretations are ridiculously off.
     
  21. GodTom

    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2011
    Messages:
    2,537
    Likes Received:
    53
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Hilarious that Russians promote multiculturalism on other countries, all the while Russians alienate and murder Chechens and Georgians time and time again.
     
  22. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    I have a video here, that should send shivers down the spines of Russia's enemies. There are over ten thousand highly trained Chechnyans gathered at a stadium and ready to give their lives for Vladimir Putin and their Russian motherland. Just listen to what Kadyrov says as he praises Vladimir Putin for having trusted them and their spiritual leader. Now this is loyalty.

    If I were Poroshenko or any of the Nato fools helping him, I would be a little scared.


    [video=youtube;Irj_4IVLBP8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irj_4IVLBP8[/video][/QUOTE]
     
  23. GodTom

    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2011
    Messages:
    2,537
    Likes Received:
    53
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Kadryov supports Russia, because Putin keeps Kadryov and his militia in power.
     
  24. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,464
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113
    so Putin has the support of 10,000 Jihadi mother (*)(*)(*)(*)ers?

    figures.
     
  25. GodTom

    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2011
    Messages:
    2,537
    Likes Received:
    53
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Yet in a province smaller than New Jersey(chechnya is 6,680 sq. miles.), Kadryov can't even keep his own constituents happy enough from blowing themselves up or going on a shooting rampage.

    Every week there's a terrorist attack, in a province smaller than the state of New Jersey.

    You tell us that NATO and the US should be afraid of this man and tens of thousands of his militia men? Millions of Russians died to kill the Nazis. If there was a war between NATO and Russia, Kadryov and his band of murderous thugs will be swept under the carpet negated from history.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page