A federal judge just put the brakes on Obama’s immigration actions

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by TRFjr, Feb 17, 2015.

  1. Solsbury_Grille

    Solsbury_Grille New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2015
    Messages:
    116
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Judge Hanen, thank you. You just made the efforts of millions of LEGAL immigrants worth something.
     
  2. Goodoledays

    Goodoledays New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2011
    Messages:
    6,598
    Likes Received:
    49
    Trophy Points:
    0
    :alcoholic:Not all of them have jobs. And a lot of them are living off the taxpayers money. Ubama wants more money to benefit them and where do you think that's going to come from...yes your paycheck. Many want what benefits we have and that cost more money. Its already here that they want to give those that don't even pay taxes a nice tax refund. And just what piggy bank that is going to come from. If you don't know then you should stop watching Ubama's nice speeches so much...its getting to you.
     
  3. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    31,883
    Likes Received:
    3,625
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Funny how some don't believe you and when you prove it, won't admit your right. I have said often, I don't lie and I can usually always back up what I said. Unless of course it's my personal opinion. Maybe if Liberals listened to something besides Left leaning stations and news papers, they would know what's really is going on.
     
  4. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    31,883
    Likes Received:
    3,625
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I guess you don't care about those that don't have a skill or have police records and their prospects for a good job are limited. These are the people most effected by these illegals. Obama said it will effect Blacks and it will. Blacks and other Hispanic Americans. You should care more about them than people who shouldn't be here in the first place. But you and many other Liberals don't seem to care. There have been hundreds of thousands that have come in in just the last two years.
     
  5. Therightway

    Therightway New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2014
    Messages:
    450
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Reagan acted upon a bill passed and signed by congress. There was never even a passed bill in this case.
     
  6. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    31,883
    Likes Received:
    3,625
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    This is what many are doing now that is costing us billions and it will only get worse with this five million more he wants to give amnesty to.

    [video=youtube;3eQZoXAU7X0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eQZoXAU7X0[/video]
     
  7. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    31,883
    Likes Received:
    3,625
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    As I posted before, Reagan only did it because Democrats promised to secure the border and never again ask for a bill that granted them amnesty and citizenship.
     
  8. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    31,883
    Likes Received:
    3,625
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There are hundreds of thousands that came here in just the last two years and if you think they will be deported, your not as smart as I took you for.
     
  9. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    31,883
    Likes Received:
    3,625
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's a hell of a lot more than a stumbling block. It's a brick wall. This amnesty isn't going anywhere until it makes it's way through the courts and it could take years before the USSC gets it.
     
  10. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2010
    Messages:
    22,146
    Likes Received:
    408
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Republicans have consistently insisted on more border security as a starting point to any negotiations. I don't think the open borders lobby behind Obama want this and I think he, Obama, is not interested in cutting deals as long as he has this issue to attack the right with.

    What's the point of an analogy if people are going to literally interpret what is said?
    I'd be all for cutting these kids some slack if they were precluded from engaging in chain immigration.

    There sure was.
     
  11. misterveritis

    misterveritis Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2011
    Messages:
    5,862
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I love your sense of humor.
     
  12. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2010
    Messages:
    22,146
    Likes Received:
    408
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This will be tied up in court and Obama, and his executive actions, will be gone making the issue moot anyway.
    Obama's one man rule ends when his time in office is up.
     
  13. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    31,883
    Likes Received:
    3,625
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    Please tell us, why are you for this bill. I have asked that question at least 20 times and have yet to ever get an answer to it. So how about you telling us why your for it.
     
  14. misterveritis

    misterveritis Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2011
    Messages:
    5,862
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    48
    And this is why we are doomed. Once we reach this point can anything short of an armed rebellion decide the issue?

    Article V remains the last legal option.
     
  15. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2008
    Messages:
    94,819
    Likes Received:
    15,788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He doesn't realize there is a vast difference between "Immigration Reform" and "Amnesty".
     
  16. guttermouth

    guttermouth Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2014
    Messages:
    6,024
    Likes Received:
    2,579
    Trophy Points:
    113
    hahaha and then haha and then haha again also. idiots. just a ploy for future votes. thats all this is. now obama gets to pretend its all the evil republicans fault and not the laws fault that he knew would restrict his executive order.
     
  17. bill hill

    bill hill Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2013
    Messages:
    990
    Likes Received:
    26
    Trophy Points:
    18
    ***This just in!!! Mexico's official national sport is no longer soccer. It's has become known as Cross Country!
     
  18. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    31,883
    Likes Received:
    3,625
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    A year or so ago, a city in Mexico, near the border, was issuing pamphlets, that told Mexicans how to work your way into the U.S country side, once you crossed the border.
     
  19. ballantine

    ballantine Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2009
    Messages:
    5,297
    Likes Received:
    44
    Trophy Points:
    0
    There probably isn't (in his mind, I mean)... the thing is, "immigration reform" is a euphemism for globalism, with stuff like "open borders" and "free trade"..... you go look at any one of the so-called "free trade" bills, there's nothing free about 'em! What they are is protectionism for US corporations, and their allies and vendors and subsidiaries. Globalism is snake oil, a fraud, a farce. Why do you think Putin and them are making so much noise, and meanwhile Mr. Xi is amassing the largest commodities empire on the planet? Do you think either of them are interested in anything as mundane as "immigration reform"? No! Slave labor is what they want! That's what our corporations would like too, but they can't have it and the illegal immigrant is as close as they can come. That's why they want open borders, it isn't because of any high and mighty economic principle, it's plain old everyday garden variety greed, is what it is. A "profit motive" is not exactly what's going on here, either. That would be a misnomer, a misperception. The US corporate structure (which is international) is intimately related to US national security. That's why we had bailouts, why we didn't just let GM and AIG fail. That's why they simply "took" three trillion dollars of taxpayer money - it wasn't because of the investors, it was because of national security.
     
  20. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2008
    Messages:
    94,819
    Likes Received:
    15,788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Don't forget they'll look mighty good in Army uniforms when we need boots on the ground in the Middle East instead of American Citizen's kids won't they.
     
  21. Grizz

    Grizz New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2014
    Messages:
    4,787
    Likes Received:
    60
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I'll let Pardy speak for himself, but my answer is that I probably know some of them; know them to be hard workers; know them to want their kids to get a good education; and know them as good neighbors. Putting them on track to gain citizenship years down the road is good for them and good for the country. I believe there was a CBO report not long ago finding that there would be a sizeable net benefit to the country if that bi-partisan bill that passed the Senate a few years back would be enacted into law. The only reason it wasn't was because of ugly Repubs in the House.
     
  22. PatrickT

    PatrickT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2009
    Messages:
    16,593
    Likes Received:
    415
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I live in southern Mexico and every evening as I walk my dog I meet young men from Guatemala heading north. They want money to finance their trip and I sometimes buy them dinner. Their goal is to work which is, since I'm not a leftist, a worthy goal. They are of the opinion that the current administration wants them to come north and will protect them when they get there.
     
  23. PatrickT

    PatrickT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2009
    Messages:
    16,593
    Likes Received:
    415
    Trophy Points:
    83
    "“What is perhaps most perplexing about the defendant’s claim that DAPA is merely ‘guidance’ is the president’s own labeling of the program,” said the judge. “In formally announcing DAPA to the nation for the first time, President Obama stated, ‘I just took an action to change the law.’”

    The Constitution, of course, does not give Obama the power to change the law.

    If Obama succeeds in usurping that authority, he and future presidents will use it for more than granting illegal aliens work permits and Social Security Numbers."
    http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/t...ma-admits-personally-changing-immigration-law

    I am sure that as an Ivy League lawyer, President Obama weighed his words carefully before he read them off the teleprompter.
     
  24. misterveritis

    misterveritis Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2011
    Messages:
    5,862
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Is "sanctuary" covered in Federal law? Why, in your opinion, does the regime prevent states from enforcing federal laws while encouraging the lawlessness of sanctuary cities?
     
  25. misterveritis

    misterveritis Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2011
    Messages:
    5,862
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    48
    And, of course you view them as undocumented democrats. You and the regime have a common goal, to take control of the nation from its citizens by encouraging lawlessness.
     

Share This Page