Muslim Terrorist liquidated in air strike

It's telling that you seem to care more about statues being destroyed than the Assad regime (which is SECULAR) torturing children.

 

Whats telling is your strawman. Please reread my words to see if you can point out where I care more about statues than the actual point which was the mentality of these cavemen who are knocking down statues are the ones beheading children.
Strawman = lost argument.

 

I see Americans aren't the only people ridiculing Marie Harf and her "nuanced" ideas...

 

Oh please, all you do is whine about the cavemen and their sky daddy.

 

Um, no. They're not insane, though they end up behaving that way due to indoctrination and other factors. That's the power of religion and brainwashing.

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Oh, won't you think of the CHILDREN??

*chuckle* Works every time, right?

 

Well, they are children...who are being tortured.

 

The lust for power and control has everything to do with it, as well.

After all, atheists have behaved that way and religion had nothing to do with it...

 

Actually religion is equally as bad but hat as to do with pagans pretending to be religious lol

 

yes and that they are beheading children. Otherwise I dont care what skygod you are afraid of

 

They are just some rocks and statues. Pretending to care about a nations history when u have been bombing them for 20 years is disingenuous

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How is that worse than dismembering children using airstrikes

 

Umm yes. If you behead a child because you think god wants you to you are crazy even if you dont agree. There is no nuttier you can get. A normal brain stops and says its wrong. How you get to be a nutter is up to a doctor. My only concern is people who are.

 

Are we speaking of leaders or followers? I can only assume we're talking about the strange cases of Stalin's USSR and similarly creepy personality-cult-dictatorships in China and North Korea, where atheism is instituted in some official capacity but hardly practiced since the supreme leader of the land is regarded in a manner disturbingly similar to how emperors have been regarded, i.e. religiously.

 

Nope. Otherwise sane people can be made to think and do "insane" things through religion. Like this:

22 Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, “Abraham!”

“Here I am,” he replied.

2 Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, whom you love—Isaac—and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.”

3 Early the next morning Abraham got up and loaded his donkey. He took with him two of his servants and his son Isaac. When he had cut enough wood for the burnt offering, he set out for the place God had told him about. 4 On the third day Abraham looked up and saw the place in the distance. 5 He said to his servants, “Stay here with the donkey while I and the boy go over there. We will worship and then we will come back to you.”

6 Abraham took the wood for the burnt offering and placed it on his son Isaac, and he himself carried the fire and the knife. As the two of them went on together, 7 Isaac spoke up and said to his father Abraham, “Father?”

“Yes, my son?” Abraham replied.

“The fire and wood are here,” Isaac said, “but where is the lamb for the burnt offering?”

8 Abraham answered, “God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.” And the two of them went on together.

9 When they reached the place God had told him about, Abraham built an altar there and arranged the wood on it. He bound his son Isaac and laid him on the altar, on top of the wood. 10 Then he reached out his hand and took the knife to slay his son. 11 But the angel of the Lord called out to him from heaven, “Abraham! Abraham!”

“Here I am,” he replied.

12 “Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”

Sane people aren't as sane as they'd like to think they are.

 

Hilarious your assertion god nutters arent crazy is a different god nutter was going to kill his son because the voice he heard from behind a bush told him so......thats the best exposing post of the week!
If you are listening to a voice kill your son....you are insane

 

It's a story. I don't believe the events described actually happened. However.... This particular story is meant to condition the thinking of those who hear it into accepting the idea of sacrificing even their own precious son (what family member was of greater value in those patriarchal times?) for the sake of their god and their faith. It turns morality on its head in the name of some ideology. And that is my point here -- religion tells people it's OK to kill, and even virtuous to do so, under certain circumstances because of some ideological notion that boils down to some variation of the "greater good" meme.

 

These so called "terrorists" are the best trolls. They use terror to gain a reaction, and when bullheaded countries like the US get poked, the true insanity is revealed. When 5 people roaming a warzone get executed, and Americans start preaching about how they must fight until the last breath to eradicate followers of occult Islam, it isn't the "terrorists" who look foolish. I'm sure the 70,000 civilians who died in fighting between the US and Saddam's Army were fully accounted for. I believe many Islamic militants have a point to prove by resorting to violence, and they do a good job of getting it across.

We've all poked sleeping bears just to see them overreact. If I could school America in any practice, it would be good diplomacy.

 

Unfortunately the root of the problem is that America refuses to discuss the root of the problem. Too much denial from unreasoned fear and willful ignorance to carry on a discussion

 

to be honest, I am surprised Hamas is still alive

 

In fact nothing strenghtened horrific militant Islamists more than the hateful crusade against Shia muslims. In Syria and in Iraq Shiite muslims suffer genocide at the hands of IS and other Sunni militant groups. Beside Saudi-Arabia and Turkey, Israel is one of the centers of this hateful crusade which made IS stronger and stronger.

The people responsible have failed in finding a good ally, all too obvious the IS fighters turned out as uncontrollable savages which shocked the whole world by their actions. Undenieable the course was to be changed in an anti-IS direction. Now the Iran and nearly the rest of the world are de facto allies in taking down the IS, like it or not.

 

I'm speaking about both.

Needless to say, that's using the term "religious" in the broadest sense of the term.

And I'm talking about more than the numerous communist/socialist monsters who substituted themselves, their ideologies and the state for God/religion. We could be talking about the Terrorists in the French Revolution or any number of tyrants and secular terrorist groups whose lust for power drove them to murder and atrocity.

 

By all means, please explain to us how Caliph Ibrahim and his simian band of takfirists are pagans...

 

Cant destroy the doctrine of the Koran and Hadiths. You can only destroy those who adhere to its teachings.

 

Looks like another case of: only in Dixon's world.

 

Oh, you think revolutionaries in predominantly Catholic France were a bunch of atheists, huh? I dunno about that. Seems to me that was a Protestant vs Catholic matter. Not familiar with many secular terrorist groups, either. But it's good you've brought up Protestants fighting Catholics, because that's a fantstic example of murder and mayhem conducted on a mass scale for many, many centuries on the basis of religious ideology.

At any rate, though, what all of these apparent insane persons share is ideology, and very, very often that ideoogy ends up having a traditional religious (to differentiate from the non-organised religon-based) basis as well. Not to villify religion and place all the blame on it, but it does typically encourage that dangerous way of thinking in its adherents. Christians still apologise for the Old Testament's numerous crimes against humanity allegedly carried out under Yahweh's orders, which means they're rationalising murder, rape and all sorts of wonderful things on a "God said so" basis. Sounds very Muslim to me, and the Protestant-Catholic wars and "terrorism" of the past, both long ago and more recent, appear very (radical) Muslim as well.

 

There's no question that some of them were atheists. The Cult of Reason is one of the more notable examples.

Really? Do you honestly think monsters like Jean-Baptiste Carrier were motivated by religion?

Think Marxist terror groups.

Actually, you brought that up, and I'm not sure what that has to do with the lust for power that compelled atheists and other irreligious people to commit mass murder and atrocity (?). As I mentioned before, it's not always all about religion, and human beings have never required religion to behave in a violent manner.