Israel killed more Palestinians in 2014 than in any other year since 1967

Leaving Gaza was a pre-emptive token response in the face of international pressure.. and secondly.. Israel parents were very angry that there were 20,000 IDF soldiers protecting 8,000 settlers among 1.2 million Palestinians.

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70% of Gazans were not born in Gaza.. They are refugees forced out of the West Bank and the Negev.

 

I am not really sure that is justification for slaughtering civilians.

 

The use of the word "sometimes" makes the statement somewhat vague.

 

Sounds conflated.How many involved suicide bombers.
How many targeted specific areas such as Hospitals and civilian
neighborhoods.Where the Palestinians and Hamas make it a policy
to use in their bids to hide and strike with rockets.To store rockets in
underground caves beneath hospitals and schools.
This isn't even apples & oranges.This is sparklers and dynamite.
What part of Israel being left alone does this thread starter not comprehend.

 

Perhaps if Hamas (a known terrorist organization elected by Palestinians) would stop lobbing rockets into Israel . . .

 

I'm talking about intent. Israel has not professed to wipe out anyone like Hamas has. They do not say as much in their charter, their mission does not include wiping out a people.

 

When folks launch thousands of rockets into your back yard.....no one cares about the folks launching them.

The anti-antisemitism today rivals anything seen in the 1930's.

 

To the OP... and we will CONTINUE to do so against those terrorists who threaten our security. Collateral damage is 100% the fault of the Hamas IslamoTerrorists.

God bless Israel.

 

Which should be very important.Hamas is constantly using veiled threats against
Israel and always starting up trouble.They pull stunts on a regular basis like claming
Israel targets their Hospitals and schools.When it is Hamas who purposedly hides
and stores it's weapons cache and sets up shop in schools and hospitals while dressing
as civilians.

 

LOL, a pity you didnt actually read the report, cant say Im surprised, but thanks for proving that the report itself is clearly an unbaised account;

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Id go into exactly what those key aspects are here but Im still hoping that one day a conservative will read more than just what suits him.

Oh really, seeking to both use the report and deny it as incredible at the same time.

But lets get to it; and what international agencies are these that slap B'tselem around? Are they human rights groups perhaps? Lobby groups?

Is the same B'tselem that is invited to the knesset to speak, is donated by the various credible European governments as well as Israelis and Americans?

The same B'tselem who have rebutted most of these criticisms in detail and regularly also criticises the Palestinians and the Palestinian Authority who are immediately repsonded to by the Israeli government and who have had several successful petitions before the Israeli high court?

Are the critics you mention the same ones who routinely criticise most if not all human rights groups? Who are in fact simple lobby groups rather than human rights groups?

And arent you the same Cautious Conservative who also seeks to discredit Amnesty International? What other human rights groups would you like every one of us to dismiss I wonder?

LOL.

Ill take your conservative predictions like the Romney landslide predictions. Israel isnt getting the West Bank, you know it and I know it. As for charges, feel free to let us know who is doing the charging. Wonder why you havent already.

Sorry Cautious, but youre not the first pro-israeli conjob to try to explain things to us here, so before I let you make a fool of yourself I usually give you guys fair warning that we are not at all short on detail on these matters. I expect a robust and informed debate with no personal references to Jew or Arab hatred. Usually your type slink off into the ignorant gutter from whence you came after having been thoroughly shown for what you normally are - bigoted, ignorants. Lets hope you can do better.

 

Coming from someone who wants to destroy Palestinian living spaces I think everyone will take your claptrap with a large dose of salt.

 

LOL.

I live in the Jewish State of Israel, not the Muslim state of Israel.

Many Muslims living in Israel have it better than in most Arab countries.

As for home demolitions, we ONLY demolish the homes of Terrorists and the homes of Palestinian Occupiers who get in the way of our important settlement building programme.

Muslims who leave us alone we generally leave alone... even though they should just go back to Jordan to make things better for all.

God bless the Jewish State of Israel and Christian Americans who love and support Israel.

 

Lol. Another cowardly post.

Yes exactly as I said. You refuse to leave Palestinians alone and intend to build Israel in the west bank. Making sure they cannot have independence from you unless they all leave.

Thus your know the evil you espouse and represent.

 

I do not discredit nor give credit to AI. It is a NGO, and as such, has been found to be biased in at least "some" of its dealing.

Irrelevant. Israel has made great strides in communication with West Bank, but your statement has nothing to do with what I said, which was, "Israel will never go back to the pre-67 lines." You need to either stay on topic - or quite debating topics that are over your head.

"Pro-Israeli conjob." Wow - the claws come out.

Here's the deal - I debate on facts, you're debating on emotions and you're not correct about many of your facts.

If you can leave the childish attitude at home, we might have a chance at a conversation. But, be warned, your threats and insults have no effect on me. I laugh them off.

If you want to debate - stick to the subject and to the facts. You've made so many false statements to date that it becomes tedious to lend you much credibility.

Let's hope that changes.

 

What Israeli charter are you referring to?

The hamas charter is a religious call to arms. Not a call to wipe out every Jewish person. Your misunderstanding is irrelevant.

 

As long as Israel continues to send soldiers to drag families out of their homes so Israeli settlers can live in them, you will continue seeing a Palestinian resistance

 

Lol that's not what the bit you quoted said. Try harder when discussing matters with me.

 

Let's be clear cautious I will never ever not answer either a point or a post. That's a commitment I make and keep around here. I'm no time waster like your conservative friends.

The answer is the same answer as to why they didn't push out every single Arab in 1948. Their overt campaigns run out of steam and international support the longer and more conspicuous they are. Thus their tactics have always been the slow erosion of the Palestinians lifestyle and independence by building closer and closer to them. This has always worked except where enough arms can be brought to bear on them. Thus the Gazan evacuation.

Any other questions?

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It's obvious you support an evil enterprise and have no clue about the history of this area as you only read a smattering of information convenient to your preconceptions.

 

The number of palestinians killed in any given year is a direct product of how many attacks palestinians conduct on Israel. Israelis don't celebrate killing arabs and moslems unlike the reverse.

 

Thanks for the answer but you're wrong. They pushed far enough to secure a buffer zone that would protect the most populated areas in Israel.

They pushed back in response to Arab troops amassing on their borders.

They will not let go of all of that area, although they've reduced the area already in size.

If another Arab initiative occurs, there is a good chance they will push farther again.

 

Having a population of 50 million muslims while being sympathetic to the Palestinians is a different matter, I think not.

 

I agree, they are not only nuts many are satanically influenced nuts.

I challenge our fellow conservatives to do just that~

reva

 

The kill ratio over the past 70 years has remained steady at 30 dead Palestinians for every 1 dead Israeli.

Would you allow foreign refugees to push you out of your home, your town, your county and state?

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Your home, farm and olive groves are about YOU and your family heritage, not about 50 million Muslims.

 

The kill ratio is an irrelevant statistic. Our actions against Palestinian terror are justified. Palestinian terror directed at Israel is unjustified.

Kill ratios? Who cares?!

 

The uneven death toll is due only to the Israelis being better and smarter than the palestinians. Do you really think it's due to the arab's lack of trying to kill Jews? It's all they think and dream about.

And as far as foreigners pushing you out of your home, the Jews were there first. First as in first. Not the day that you and they want to start counting from.

And as long as we're on that subject, when have moslems respected anyone else's life or property? Look around the world. The answer is never. What did Buddhist statues ever do to them, not to mention half the people in the world.