U.S supported death squads kill 4 news reporters in Ukraine

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  1. Silver Surfer

    Silver Surfer Banned

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    This is getting ridiculous. If it weren't for extra-judicial executions of completely innocent people it would be funny. Any comments about this blatant crimes against freedom of expression? Do you condone executing people who dare to think differently?

    Death Squads Kill Four News Reporters in Ukraine

    On April 17, Death Squads Killed Four News Reporters in Ukraine in 24 Hours.




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    What do you expect from Ukraina a third world country run by a bunch of facist thugs.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's a list of the men killed recently from Fort Russ:

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    The following must have offended the Kiev government, so they had to kill him:

    Oles Buzina:


    "Not all Ukrainians are under the influence of Ukrainian propaganda, which is not Ukrainian, but anti-Ukrainian, and it is developed in the US, I ask one thing, still be kind to Ukraine and Ukrainians, if you want to break that wall in Ukrainian hearts, as a great world power, try to send a message of kindness to Ukraine, no matter what..."
     
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    Yep, I hate fascists worse than I hate crab lice.
     
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    Fox News might be bias, like ABC and MSNBC are, but it's certainly reputable. Can you point out a time where something was a lie, not a bias twist?

    You extremists are so dramatic.
     
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    Well, we could start with Bill O'Reilly lying in much of the same manner as Brian Williams when it comes to his personal experiences in journalism.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/02/bill-oreilly-brian-williams-falklands-war

    For the record, I'm not a fan of MSNBC either.
     
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    Very funny.
    American politicians and the American media - always lie. For example, US Ambassador to Ukraine, Mr. Payette: "Since August is the highest concentration of Russian air defense systems in Eastern Ukraine," - wrote the American ambassador in his Twitter, attaching to the post photos complex SAM "Buk-M2" with MAKS, which consisted in Moscow in 2013.

    https://twitter.com/GeoffPyatt/status/591143349194723328/photo/1
     
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    Bill O'Reilly is not a reporter for Fox News. He's an entertainer at night.

    I'm speaking of the news that comes from the source. To say it's not reputable is incorrect. It very much is. Just as CNN is.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Lol! Russian state run media is more reputable? LOL! Whatever Putin says, becomes "news" in Russia.

    What a joke
     
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    Not that I condone it, but do they have freedom of expression there?
     
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    " U.S supported death squads kill 4 news reporters in Ukraine "

    that is like blaming the crimes of us soldiers on all our soldiers..... just cause we supported them, doesn't mean we support this
     
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    I find RT informative when it comes to world news, not so the corporate news which likes to give their own conclusions of events, rather than presenting the facts. Since I prefer reaching my own conclusion, and since their lies and deceit sicken me, I avoid the corporate news sites and the BBC like the plague.

    That RT, Sputnik and other Russian sites are more factual and honest, have been affirmed to me by foreign news sites which are not corporate affiliated, and by highly intellectual and trustworthy American sites such as Dr. Craig Roberts, Consortium News, Moon of Alabama, The Washingtonsblog, Ron Paul Institute, etc.
     
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    Russian media, in comparison with the US media - the ideal of objectivity.
     
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    That's actually pretty high praise.

    And the claims made against RT seem to be about as credible and supported as the claims against Fox, now that we bring it up. People just claim RT is no good, yet evidence for this is lacking. All we have is propaganda, an organised effort to discredit their agency.
     
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    State-run media is the least effective form of media because the government has TOTAL control on what is said. That's why the Russian media will never criticize Putin, because he won't allow it.

    That's not news, that's lies.
     
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    You read a lot of Russian media? Russian media often criticize Putin and Medvedev and any politician in Russia. For example, "Echo of Moscow" ("Gazprom" the owner). They are blamed Putin that McCain could envy.
     
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    Rather then bombing newspaper offices outright as was done in Serbia whether Serbia at the time was right or wrong, this stealthy way of getting rid of unwanted journalism seems a neater method, more likely to win over the hearts and minds. Maybe these journalists were also drawing bad cartoons.
     
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    Journalists that dared to speak out against Putin:
    2012[edit]
    1.7 July - Alexander Khodzinsky, journalist in Tulun, was stabbed to death by a local businessman Gennady Zhigarev, former deputy.[141]
    2.5 December - Kazbek Gekkiev, journalist for local TV programmes in Kabardino-Balkaria, was shot dead on street of Nalchik, after threats from local wahhabi extremists.[142]

    2013[edit]
    1.9 July - Akhmednabi Akhmednabiev, deputy editor of the Novoe Delo was killed (after numerous death threats and previous assassination attempt in January 2013[143]) by several gunshots while he was driving just 50 metres from his house on the outskirts of provincial capital Makhachkala.[144][145][146]

    2014[edit]
    1.1 August - journalist and human rights activist Timur Kuashev was abducted from his home and later found dead in Kabardino-Balkaria.[147] Kuashev was previously stopped by local police for a number of times and received death threats.[148]
     
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    You write what that nonsense. You write or wahhabits or Putin?.... Or about that Russian media "did not criticize" Putin? Explore question.
     
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    I wrote that these journalists defied Putin, and they wound up dead. Putin has everyone at his disposal to kill anyone who speaks out about him.
     
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    Indeed; his opponents do seem to be particularly accident-prone.
     
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    So, you don't find the fact that it's state-owned to be a conflict of interests in terms of reporting on Russian matters?....

    And again with Fox, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies#Media_watchdogs

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Fox_News

    While we're at it, Russia Today: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RT
     
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    The nature of the job :machinegun:
     
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    Oh, there's no doubt they have a certain pro-Russian bias. The question is whether that bias causes them to report things inaccurately, or whether they, like Fox and many other outlets, such as the BBC, simply choose to report or not to report certain stories and facts because of it. Seems to me they all do this. I've noticed for instance that the BBC, like a lot of American media, has been very anti-Russian of late. They report things from a certain angle and stress certain opinions, points of view and related facts, while ignoring others. Stepping back to look at the big picture, you'll see a definite bias against Russia, just as you'll see in American corporate media..

    Private ownership doesn't guarantee impartiality, either. Not when everything is interconnected up at the top the way our business leaders, company shareholders and politicians all are in our country. In fact, that might be worse because it becomes a lot harder to detect and address what's going on, and there is likely no legal recourse against it either, since any person or entity that is technically private rather than public is not nearly so restrained by law in their words or actions.
     
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    How can people criticize Putin when he's one and the same with Russia? Unlike the US where the government represents lobbyists like the industrial war complex or the drug and agriculture corporations, etc., and then are forced to lie to the people to get elected. Vladimir Putin truly represents the Russian people and they know that...and they trust him.

    Up until now Russia had over fifty foreign owned publications such as the Moscow Times, and the things they wrote that were detrimental to their own country shocked me...because these things would never be allowed in the US, or in any other Western country. So how can anyone say that Russia doesn't have a free press?

    The Kremlin is changing that now, and bringing foreign ownership up to par with the rest of the world. They will only own twenty five percent of the media and publications...which is good, because many of them are imposing Western values which are in conflict with their own Russian ones.
     
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