Poland refused to recognize as genocide the massacre of Poles Volyn under pressure fr

Poland refused to recognize as genocide the massacre of Poles Volyn under pressure from Germany and the US.
Poland - one of the countries whose people suffered the most during the Second World War - concentration camps, to the base of the destroyed cities and millions were brutally murdered by the Nazis and their accomplices people ... seem to forget this is impossible. Apparently, not to today's Polish ministers ready to rewrite history for the sake of political expediency.

Minister of Culture and National Heritage of Poland Ms. Omilanovskaya receives a letter from the German Foreign Minister Steinmeier.
He recommends in order to create a consolidated European position on the Ukrainian question to withdraw from UNESCO documents assessing the Volyn tragedy - the horrific events of 1943, during which the Ukrainian nationalists massacred more than 100 thousand ethnic Poles.



Excerpt from a letter.
".....We urge you to temporarily withdraw from UNESCO documents as long as the Ukrainian issue will not be resolved in full. In return, Germany will continue to provide all possible assistance to the development of the Polish economy in the framework of treaties in force in the EU.

Sincerely, Frank-Walter Steinmeier"

Judging by the fact that the documents have not been published by UNESCO, Omilanovskaya listened Steinmeier.
It is significant, is not it?

What could be more disgusting than follow the instructions the Ministry of Foreign Affairs the country, that destroyed millions of your fellow citizens? Only the recognition of the killers responsible for the genocide of your fellow - heroes!

So did the Foreign Minister of Poland Grzegorz Schetyna. He openly supported the initiative of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine to recognize OUN-UPA fighters for Ukraine's independence. For reference, the OUN-UPA soldiers - officially recognized culprits Volyn massacre. Moreover, Schetyna did it on the orders of the US ambassador in Warsaw Mulla, which caused serious resentment among Polish politicians and the public. And now he is forced to seek protection from its patron in Washington, John Kerry.



What else can the Polish minister? What do you think about this?

 

There is a lot of opposition in Poland towards the Nazis in Ukraine, so in order to combat it Washington threatened them with a lawsuit that could have run into billions. Poland is not the only country which has been threatened by Washington, there have been quite a few. Mafia tactics anyone? So much for freedom and self determination.

 

There is going to be a lot of problems in Poland, because the Polish people are getting fed up with all the Ukrainians coming in from Western Ukraine. It's only going to get worse as the economic situation worsens in Ukraine. In the mean time Poland, Lithuania and Ukraine have formed their own army. One has to wonder how well the soldiers are going to get along, especially if the Ukrainian ones are Nazis.

 

I wonder what Zbigniew Brzezinski's reaction is to all this, or is he still obsessed with Russia? What I did read was that he told Poland to form its own army...so something's cooking.

 

There will be no end in trying to get the stink off Ukraine. Hey, what about that MH17 report?

OP .... with no link this thread will probably be deleted.

 

as long as Russian extremists deny the Holocaust, deny the Holodomor, deny the Katyn massacre, honor Stalin, the NKVD, the Cheka, the Gulags, they have no business complaining about other nations.

 

Why does it matter whether or not Volyn is classified as a genocide to qualify for world heritage site status? More directly, why does it matter more than a trade gateway with Russia through the Ukraine?

 

You may or may not be employed to post here - it is interesting, but of no real consequence.
I would suggest attempting to be less transparent if you want to be an effective propagandist.

I am very fond of Russia - the country, the people, the literature - not the current government, nor the former Soviet Union.

The U.S. and Russia are the 2 biggest boys in the neighborhood and will, for the foreseeable future, engage in a test of wills.
What many in the west do not understand about Russia is how many times in her history she has been invaded and is therefore naturally
wary. It is not well known here how important The Great Patriotic War is to the Russian people, and that Russia is largely responsible for the defeat of the Nazis - although Stalin ended up killing more Russians than Hitler.

What many Russians do not understand about us is that we were a very isolationist nation in the early 20th Century - Churchill begged us to intervene, we did not until the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. We then became saddled with the role of defending and rebuilding Western Europe.

I have often wondered how our two countries would get along today if Alexander had done more and the Revolution had never taken place.

 

The Poles hate Putin and Russian nationalism, more than they hate Ukrainians.

 

My apologies for the wrong quote - the above was meant for "Destroyer."

 

A propagandist is someone who lies, I do not lie, I present the truth as I know it, and I present facts. I despise dishonesty and manipulation, especially when it's by my government...so guess again..

The Soviet Union was evil, and its gone. Unfortunately it moved here...especially the manipulations of its press. As for Vladimir Putin, I am very fond of him for having the integrity to stand up to Washington its impositions and skewed values, as well as its indifference towards human lives and sufferings.

Washington has another threat now to its hegemony. It has added China to its Wolfowitz Doctrine. This is from Dr. Craig Roberts:

The Council of Foreign Relations report says that China is a rising power and thereby a threat to US world hegemony. China’s rise must be contained so that Washington can remain the boss in the Asian Pacific. What it comes down to is this: China is a threat because China will not prevent its own rise. This makes China a threat to “the International Order.” “The International Order,” of course, is the order determined by Washington. In other words, just as there must be no Russian sphere of influence, there must be no Chinese sphere of influence. The CFR report calls this keeping the world “free of hegemonic control” except by the US.

And we did well...but that changed with Henry Kissinger and with the Wolfowitz Doctrine. We ceased being the country we were before.

It wasn't Alexander, it was Tsar Nicholas II that was in charge. There were ideological differences since absolute monarchs were seen by Britain and the US as the evil of the times, and the cause of all wars. Well we proved ourselves wrong now didn't we?

 

You have no idea who the Polish people are against, all you know is who the government is against. This has nothing to do with the Polish people, and more to do with Washington's foreign policy which consists solely of blackmail, bullying, bribery and coercion.

You have no idea of what was done to the Poles so that the Ukrainians could claim their land? It's not that the Poles are not forgiving, it's that the Ukrainians are showing no remorse for what they did in the past. They are praising the very people and groups that committed the crimes. This would be like the German government praising Adolph Hitler and the Nazi Party.

 

notice how wiki has been doctored to cover up The Volyn Genocide - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historiography_of_the_Volyn_tragedy - wish they were as doubtful on the subject of Katyn.

 

sounds like a letter to a tsar, all the way. Washington tsars, that is.

 

George Friedman has set out America's strategy in building Poland in the way it built Korea and Japan in the post WWII period. In this case the idea is to develop Poland as a tactical bulwark between Russia and Germany.

[video=youtube;ETwCBz_kedU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETwCBz_kedU[/video]

More on this HERE and HERE.

 

Hardly. Re-building western Europe was something the US wanted to do and needed to do to suit its post WWII imperial ambitions by combating the spread of Soviet communism which had taken a strong grip in western Europe in the post war years.

 

I would argue that Soviet intervention began six months earlier, in June of 1941, when Hitler reneged on the Nazi-Soviet non-aggression pact and initiated Operation Barbarossa. In effect the Soviet Union had no option; fight back or be overrun. Barbarossa was a godsend to the Allies and a monumental military blunder by Hitler.

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Indeed; it was the US initiative contained within the Marshall Plan which began the rebuilding of Europe post-WW2.

 

Poles in general have no affection for Russia. There has been enmity between the two for centuries; furthermore even this generation of Poles has little admiration for their former WW2 Allies who sold them down the river when Churchill and Roosevelt gifted half of their country to the Communists during the 1943 Tehran conference. They trust neither Russia nor their former allies, and who can blame them frankly.

 

In 2010 "Duma approved a declaration blaming Stalin and other Soviet officials for having personally ordered the Katyn massacre".

 

Alexander accelerated the process of emancipating the serfs - had the policy continued, I believe it would be a much different world.

 

and YOU do?

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so you deny Russia manipulation of their press?

 

Today's politicians are ready to sell their national pride for political gains. What Poles are thinking?

 

On Barbarossa being a godsend, I used to know someone - now deceased - who was in the company of Anthony Eden, who was one of Churchill's closest intimates during WWII (and later became Prime Minister) when he received the news that Hitler had invaded Russia. Eden slapped his knees in utter delight and crowed "we've won the war".

It was that important.

My view is that Hitler was bank-rolled by the west to do exactly that -- invade and eradicate communist Russia - but in his megalomania decided to take western Europe first. The latter had not been in the plans of the elite -- in those days this would've been the Rhodes-Milner "Group" and their friends and fellow travellers in the US -- and so WWII resulted. The unintended consequences of arrogant meddling, I suppose.

 

Wow, that's some historic revision if I've ever seen one.

WW2 was caused by the overly stringent war penalties put on Germany after WW1.

The way you Russians say everyone is out to get you is kinda funny

 

There's something rather dodgy about that letter you posted.
It contains grammatical mistakes that I find very strange.
I can't imagine the German foreign ministry using these exact words unless everybody who works there and can read was sick the very day that letter was written and sent.