Why do some Christians seem to think homosexual marriage is a danger to society?

Q: Does homosexuality, pedophilia, incest, or bestiality appear in nature?
A: Yes, therefore it is natural.

I think you are confusing right/wrong, good/bad, beneficial/detrimental with whether or not something is natural. Whether or not something is natural or unnatural really has nothing to do with whether it is good or bad. You are posting from an electronic device, you are using something that is unnatural, so how is something being unnatural automatically bad when you ignore your own hypocrisy?

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We have a right to our natural state?

So I suppose you are fine with people walking around nude?

 

There are many things that you or i may consider perversions
But as long as they hurt no one
These activities are legal

I can see why you would not want or personally endorse a gay marriage
It is your right
I object when you seem to want to spread your own deeply felt moral views into public law
Because despite all of your passion on the issue
Your view is not the expression of some greater natural law
It is your view on these matters
Your view of natural law
Your view of what is perversion
Your view of which perversions need to be legally rejected
And while it seems obvious to you that your view is based upon some eternal transcendent truth
It is really just your view

 

Murder occurs in nature, it doesnt make it right.

 

Actually, it doesn't. There is no such thing as unlawful killing in nature.

 

lol tell that to michael browns family

 

Nature =/= right/wrong

The fact of something occurring in nature being natural a difficult concept? Homosexuality occurs in nature, and therefore natural. Whether or not something is right or wrong has nothing to do with whether or not it is natural.

 

Then why do you even bother bringing it up?

 

Evolution is the most well supported theory in the sciences. It's conclusive fact at this point.

 

Which, of course, would not eliminate same sex marriages as there are no end to churches and pastors who would perform a wedding service for same sex couples.

 

I'm completely avoiding the moral argument because we are a secular nation. Yet, the human species has a biological defined mating/procreation state. The vast majority of Americans respect and engage sexually by our naturally defined state.

We under no obligation to respect or recognize any deviant sexual practices or give them equal official recognition. A majority of Americans have voted to not recognize gay marriage. Homosexuality is not like interracial marriage. All races are natural and equal, the same cannot be said for homosexuality.

As offensive as my opinion is, it is based biological fact and respect for our natural state. I'm not questioning anyone's legal right to be homosexual and I am not judging their worth as humans despite their sexual choice. I'm only advocating against official/equal defining of a clearly unnatural sexual choice of our species.

 

Imo registering a contract does not in any way imply official endorsement of that contract
Regardless of my own views on homosexuality
I think gays are entitled to the same civil rights as anyone else
And i see no reason why those equal rights should not extend to marriage

I mean
Clearly these relationships have and will exist regardless of how this all works out in the courts
I just see no legitimate legal reason gays should be allowed to live together
Even to have domestic partnerships
But somehow marriage is something special from which they must be excluded
And for no social purpose as far as i can tell
Just because it is "unnatural"

 

Let me say first, that I am not unopposed to gay marriage, but I don't think the word supporter is exactly right for me.

Alright, now to the reply. Marriage is a sacrament in the christian, at least Catholic, religion. Homosexuality is also wrong in the christian faith because sex is meant to, 1) strengthen the relationship between the two, which can easily be argued for the case of homosexuals. But, 2) it is meant to be procreative, which no matter how hard one tries, two men cannot have a child together. Sex traditionally was only meant for marriage, and that is where the conflict/fear of gay marriage comes from. At least, that is a logical conclusion.

Now, republicans and christians alike fear gay marriage because it has a larger, more venomous secondary objective which many believe is the motive behind the liberal gay rights movement. Conservatives fear that once gay marriage is the norm in all states, gay rights will move on to attacking churches that do not agree to hold gay weddings by removing their nonprofit 501(c)3 status. This is basically already happening in California, so it is not just one's imagination.

I hope I helped, and friendly debate/commentary is certainly weclcome!

 

Again, I'm not for banning gay marriage in the private sector. Anything that is recognized by government becomes a representation of society as a whole. In the private sector it is only recognized by those who wish to recognize it.

 

Ah no. All forms of dating are flawed and non conclusive. Science still has not found a missing link or any proof we were apes.

 

Now you just have to prove that it is not natural for a certain percentage of any human population to be homosexual.

As we seem to have had homosexuals from the dawn of the written word, I could easily be argued that a small percentage of homosexuals in a human population IS normal. As a bee colony only has a few individuals that are active in the act of reproduction, there may be a natural propensity for human populations to include a percentage of homosexual individuals.

Prove me wrong.

 

A percentage have been murderers, rapist and thieves. Does not mean we accept and reward them as equal to law abiding citizens. By your definition, pedophiles should be equal.

 

And I see your weak attempt to deflect the conversation.

You are unable to prove that having a small percentage of homosexual individuals in any human population is not normal for said human population. It is a fact. There are homosexual individuals in human populations. It appears that there have always been homosexual individuals in human populations - therefor, a small percentage of homosexuals in any given human population IS normal.

Prove me wrong.

 

The fact there have been homosexuals throughout history in no way proves it is natural. It proves that some humans are deviants from our natural state. Most hammers are used to pound nails. But some are used to kill people. Does not mean hammers were designed to kill.

 

Man, you're OUT THERE now.

 

Prove that it is not natural for a certain percentage of any human population to be homosexual.
You can't do it.

It is perfectly natural for a percentage of bees in a hive not to participate in reproduction.
It may be perfectly natural for a certain percentage of humans to be homosexual. I can't prove otherwise. Neither can you.

 

"Science still has not found a missing link or any proof we were apes"

I believe in the veracity of evolution, but your statement also seems true to me. Good thought !

 

I'm really not interested in having this conversation. This can only delve deeper into the hole of insanity and irrationalism that is creationism, and I refuse to go there. Not today.

 

You can't prove a percentage are designed to be homosexual either. Goes both ways.

 

You brought up evolutional theory as fact.

 

But as there appears to have always been a percentage of homosexuals in human populations, it would be far more likely that having a certain percentage of homosexuals in a human population IS natural, rather than the opposite.

Therefor, your assertion that homosexuality is not natural for a small percentage of individuals in a human population is not supportable.