Pool Party cop involved in bloody post suicide scene hours before incident !

I lived in Chicago for two years. And there are many older black people who have been brainwashed into believing that more cops is the answer to their problems, when the real problem is the political class who criminalizes drugs, destroys the education system, and taxes people into oblivion. The Democrats who run cities like Chicago and Baltimore are just as much to blame for the problems facing these urban communities. But that doesn't absolve the hypocritical "small government" conservatives from their role in the destruction of the urban black community.

 

I don't think so. For some reason (and they are several), the police force in America are generally bullyish and authoritarian. For a society that considers itself so "free," Americans are a complacent and submissive peoples.

 

Unlike some people, I actually know what a "shooting stance" looks like.

And until there is a positively identified threat, there is no reason to draw your firearm. Potential threats don't cut it, because virtually anything can be construed as a potential threat, especially if the person is poorly trained or corrupt.

 

I'm not blaming the "white man". I'm blaming drug prohibition, which is supported by black and white politicians alike.

Apparently, you are unaware of the history of alcohol prohibition and how it contributed to the emergence of thugs like Al Capone.

The same thing is true today. Drug prohibition contributes to gang cultures, just like alcohol prohibition did in the early 1900's.

 

If one kid at this rave invasion of private property had a gun in his pocket.. we might have heard a different story.

 

Cute but weak.

 

Because...?

What you call a "lack of situational awareness" is really just a refusal to act like a coward in the face of a non-threat.

Holding police to a high standard may seem like hatred to you, but others know better.

As for your accusations of racism, they are baseless and laughable. Have no idea where you got that idea.

I dealt with much more dangerous and much more volatile situations on a daily basis. I could have been blown up or sniped at any moment, yet you act like a pool party with some teens is a hard case to handle. How pathetic.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and are just trying to make excuses for an abusive thug who couldn't handle the minimal stress of dealing with some teens at a pool party.

 

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*)... you know as well as I that you claimed your superior "policing" experience in Iraq.

Well, apparently you do if that is how you "see" it. Now you know why your alleged "policing" experience in country is irrelevant in the US.

And presumption of innocence has no bearing on the out come of this incident. Any presumption of innocence was over when she crossed the line in to resistance when she refused to clear the area after being instructed to do so and then she must have mouthed off to the officer to get his attention to single her out of the crowd. Talk about being an apologist.... damn man...that's all you are doing.

If you had US policing experience, you would know just why you are wrong... see above for a hint.

Based on your lack of experience of policing in the US, you would know that her refusing to clear that area as instructed puts her in the same class as the trespassers. Time to put that racist BS away.

Sure you do. You saw racism where there was no apparent racism.

What, you don't have a "code" for being called out on your "code"?

 

Again, the guy did a "wide stance" (called a shooter's stance) at about 3:10 in the video. The cop was trying to subdue the idiotic teen girl and then noticed the guy standing there in a menacing way.

[video=youtube;PJkWUwYZuNg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJkWUwYZuNg#t=190[/video]

The kid then reaches 'toward' his left rear waistband, which is where most felons would probably be keeping a weapon. Only then did the cop react and draw his weapon (3:12), at which point two other cops ran up to support him. The cop obviously felt threatened by the crowd.

 

There was nothing to "regulate". It was just some teens standing on the sidewalk. The fight that everyone keeps talking about was between two white women and one black woman that was already over by the time the cops arrived. You are so desperate to demonize these young people and to rationalize the overreaction of the cops that you will simply fabricate an "unruly mob" where none existed.

 

There was no over reaction by the cops just the lefty media.

 

The residents there didn't call the cops just because of a bunch of peaceful young people. The 'peaceful young people', who were trespassing and had jumped the pool security fence, had already overwhelmed the pool area security guards, who also called for police backup. Get a clue.

 

The racism runs deep. I never mentioned race. I don't see the altercation through race colored glasses. The only thug I saw was the out of control cop. The little, harmless 15 year old girl was sitting on the grass, after being thrown there by the whacked-out cop. She was doing nothing but talking. That's the comparison I was making. The cop then grabbed her by the hair and tossed her around some more - for talking. Again, try doing that to your own child and see what happens. If that would have been my daughter, the POS cop would have been lucky to get off with just a death threat.

Thank god young people are not as racist as their parents.

 

So you didnt watch the video. No wonder you can contribute nothing to the thread....

See that green stuff? Its called grass... ( Dont get into a sarcasm battle with me you will lose every time)

 

I don't give a damn what some racist resident says in a 911 call. The 911 system is partly to blame for many of these incidents. I saw a video of a black man walking down the street with his hands in his pocket. Some bigot called the cops. Ridiculously, they responded. They stopped the man and asked him why he had his hands in his pocket. He said, "Because it's January."

911 screeners need some re-training, and so do the cops.

 

What part of "irrelevent" confuses you?

What I call a lack of situational awareness? You just exposed yourself as a phony and fraud. Any one who has been trained knows what "situational awareness" is and just how stupid it would be to say that a lack of situational awareness is cowardice. A good friend and LEO of mine lost his life in a similar situation as what transpired in this incident. Your a F'n fraud.

I don't buy your BS about High standards. That's just a cowardly cover for finding blame.

With the same "spidy" senses that exposed your fraud about "policing".

BS... you're a fraud... that's whats pathetic. The most dangerous and volatile situations are the ones that this LEO faced because they start out innocently and escalate rapidly to where he could have easily lost his life -- but then if you weren't a fraud you'd know that. Policing in the US and a civil society and what happens in a war zone are totally opposites.

 

Remember facts dont matter perception does.. Welcome to Progress....

 

If this cop wasn't "shaken up" over the two suicides calls he responded too before responding to a bunch of party crashers at a pool party, then he's not normal and shouldn't be a cop.

I don't know what kind of people the progressive/liberals want serving in law enforcement enforcing our laws and protecting lives and property ? LAPD tried the liberal affirmative action approach and they ended up with the Rampart Division Sandal. Well the LAPD had no choice the ACLU forced the LAPD to lower their standers in the name of diversity.

What do the progressives want ? Sociopaths, gang bangers, thugs or cowards who only respond after a crime has been committed serving as police officers ?

 

Which is not the same thing as claiming I was in "law enforcement". I was in the military and we were responsible for policing the Sunni Triangle. We did many of the same things that American LEO's are expected to do in America, like detain people, enter residences, investigate crime scenes, conduct interviews, respond to security threats, etc. The only difference is that we were held to much higher standards of conduct by the time I arrived in 2007.

If that's true, then why do police forces in America receive training and advice from veterans and active duty military?

She was under no obligation to "clear the area" as the "area" she was inhabiting was a public sidewalk.

One doesn't need to be a cop in order to know that the presumption of innocence is one of the overriding principles of the American legal system. If you think it is okay for cops to disregard this principle, then you are only proving my point about how abusive and out of touch they have become.

Except she was on a public sidewalk, which means she was not "trespassing". Your knowledge of the law seems to be very limited indeed.

No I don't.

Assuming that were true, how does it prove that I personally believe in the construct of race? Oh wait. It doesn't.

Not sure how to respond to this inane gibberish.

Nice opinion. Too bad it isn't supported by any logic or facts.

 

Not higher standard, less complicated standards.

They don't in situations like under discussion.

Damn. Are you just a liar or willfully ignorant. She was trespassing-- PERIOD. She was not a resident and was told to clear the area and didn't. Now, please tell me what would happen to anyone who was instructed to leave the area in Iraq and didn't-- I mean since you had such higher standards and all...

Give it up... you've lost the argument and

You've been told the facts of the situation and how you are wrong-- several times now -- so now your just lying.

Great example of denial....

Your posts... seeing a racial epitaph where there was none... pretty good evidence.

Go look in your racist code book...I'm sure you can come up with something.

 

The cops were called because of an altercation between two white women and a black girl. By the time the cops arrived, the fight was already over, and the teens were just milling about on the sidewalk. Yes, very threatening situation.

 

Aha... so you actually don't know the facts or you continue to lie. So which one is it?

So no guards called the cops?

So no one jumped the fence to a gated community?

Oh... or is it that there was no gated community and it was all public property?

So no one was trespassing?

So there was no posting in social media?

How much don't you know or are you lying about?

 

he never gave any clear order that I heard, can you show me what part of the video that was

he lost control of himself, when you do that no one is gonna know what you want

 

Go back and watch the video... this time turn on the sound.

 

I watched the video several times. If you repeat this false claim again, it will be a lie.

Now you are being dishonest as well as obtuse. She was walking on the sidewalk when he grabbed her and threw her onto the grass.

But let's assume for the sake of argument that she was on the grass when he grabbed her, in what warped world does that justify violently throwing her to the ground and sticking his knee into her back? Are you really such a cop apologist that you are willing to rationalize such excessive force for stepping on some grass?