GOP Economics: Export American Jobs Rather Than American Products

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  1. Brtblutwo

    Brtblutwo New Member

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    GOP Economics: Export American Jobs Rather Than American Products. For anyone experiencing Reagan's “trickle down” snake oil for the past four decades, the title of this thread says it all. Of course, the conservatives and neoconservatives will tell anyone who will listen that “trickle down” has been an unrivaled success. But other than the top one percent quadrupling their wealth during the “trickle down” era, very few average Americans have seen any positive changes, while most have lost ground.

    Typically, right-wingers will blame the victims. This happens whenever a member of “their team” get caught screwing up. Be it their politicians, their clergy, any of the billionaires they worship, a cop killing a person the conservatives and neoconservatives deem insignificant, etc. Or, they will blame the liberals, but liberals, like average Americans, have little to no say in economic policy making.

    However, as income inequality grows, and decent-paying jobs disappear (high paying jobs have been gone for a long time), most average Americans can see the problems being caused are the fault of the Republicans and their devotion to the very rich and Big Business.

    The article at the following link explains one of the current attacks the Congressional Republicans are waging against average Americans. Let's see how many right-wingers will read the article before defending the actions of the Republicans. Compare them with the right-wingers that refuse to read it, but instead, use their self-proclaimed mastery of economics to not only defend, but justify four decades of unsustainable GOP policies that benefit only the fat cats.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-...amer_b_7889952.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592


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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No point in reading beyond this.

    If you think Reagan was president 40 years ago you are obviously so uninformed that the rest of your post will just be a waste of time.
     
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    There was no mention of forty years ago. but we are in our fourth decade of "trickle down". The years during the 1980s decade, the 1990s decade, the 2000s decade, and now the 2010s decade. Four decades.

    Like most right-wingers, you are quick to respond with foolishness to anything you do NOT understand. It is what is so marvelous about your participation on these message boards.

    Please, continue to do what you do so well.
     
  4. AmericanNationalist

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    So Obama supports Trickle-Down? Clinton supports Trickle-Down? Do you even KNOW what "trickle-down" is? I have a mutual respect for Iriemon, who holds your position but at least has an understanding of it. And I told him and I'm telling you: Low taxes in general, is not causing the crisis but a MAJOR lack in US Production. People were appalled by Chris Christie daring to suggest to increase US Productivity by 4%, noting we didn't even get that much growth in the 50's-60's.

    Well, when growth is stunted for so long eventually there's a rebound. I don't want to increase production by 4% but 25% And yes it can be done. With an aggressive approach to liquidating private/government debt, you see how much money we surprisingly "find" from nowhere. And not a single cent of it, is from taxation ;)
     
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    you seemed to only mention republicans in this trickle down economics discussion... why have you failed to mention the TRILLIONS in trickle down economics the democrats passed the first 2 years Obama was in office and bailed out the VERY people you are complaining about now...

    you know who got rich from all the bailouts, yeah the rich... Obama could have delivered the largest blow to the wealthy in the history of the world, and make them pay for their actions... instead he bailed them out and everyone else has had to wait 6 years now for things to trickle down to the rest of us...

    isn't it ironic that Romney said all those companies should have simply gone bankrupt and setup government financing where needed for business, to allow smaller companies to buy whats left of those larger companies, and allow them to become medium sized companies that would be more responsive to the people???

    why did Obama continue to allow these giants to get bigger and richer??? he keeps talking about the record stock market and great recovery, but yet that only affects the VERY wealthy people you're so disgusted with right now... Obama bailed out millionaires and billionaires, not the every day american... we still suffered...
     
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    The Huffing Paint Post article was written By Rep John Conyers..........

    Like I can really believe Johnny on anything he says. Next time the OP should choose an article with a credible author.
     
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    Again the problem is not now nor has it ever been trickle down economics, without which we'd be in even worse shape than we are, the problem is runaway bureaucracy.
     
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    Yeah, that's what we need more than anything, permit the fat cats to run amok. As much as the conservatives and neoconservatives believe the ethics of the fat cats are impeccable, they and the crooks that run Wall Street need to be policed. The corrupt oligarchs adored by the right wing already wield too much control over the government, as they have for the past century-and-a-half. Giving them total control with the deregulation wanted by the right-wingers, there would be no employees in this country, just slaves.

    Sadly, the right-wingers are just to myopic to see the truth.
     
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    The real fat cats that are running amok are the one's running the bureaucracy. The problem is that the left is so myopic that they can't recognize that all they've done is create a boogieman out of business people whose bad ideas are ultimately self limiting while ignoring the corrupt behavior of the governing class where in bad ideas are essentially immortal and all the incentives are perverse.
     
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    Clinton was a deregulator.
     
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    Bureaucrats don't make 4,000 an hour.
     
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    You live in some sort of alternate reality that ignores who ran congress during clinton's last six years?

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    And the guys that do aren't running amok.
     
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    Free trade agreement with China. That's where most of our issues stem from. You need only look to Bill for the source of the down turn. Talk about trickle down. The jobs for middle class left so unemployment went up and families broke down because they started relying on the govt instead of the manufacturing to feed them.

    It all stems from there. Use your brain.
     
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    Right, sure.
     
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    Outsourcing started hitting hard after NAFTA. Clinton was President yet all parties wanted it (because all parties work for the same people post Citizens United).

    After NAFTA Industrial jobs that use to be worked by what some call "low rent Americans" got outsourced. We lost millions of jobs. Those Americans started getting food stamps and welfare. Then they had to "attack welfare" because so many were on it.

    They were wrong from the start, but what they failed to realize is that EVERY INDUSTRY has an office full of College educated people. So with that industry, their jobs got outsourced too.

    Now we have college educated people working fast food asking for higher wages and unionizing.

    What a cascade..:applause:

    Perhaps just stop spitting on "low rent jobs" in America, allow their offices to have college educated workers, stop the tax cuts for outsourcing, ALLOW (yes allow) the tax cuts for American jobs and many of these issues might level out.

    The 2010 Outsourcing bill was turned down when it was going to STOP TAX CUTS for Outsourcing and GIVE TAX CUTS for INSOURCING. But the small profit brains only saw "tax increase on outsourcing" and voted it down. Because ending a law that cuts taxes, is an increase to them. Outstanding work Americans. :wall:
     
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    There are no tax cuts for outsourcing. Save for the fact that tax rates are lower in the countries to which those jobs have gone to. 2nd with a few exceptions most manufacturing jobs have not been lost to outsourcing but rather to modernization. Put it this way Productive capacity that used to require a master machinist two journeymen machinist and twenty lathe and mill operators now takes a programer, maybe a forklift driver, a robot, and three CNC machines.
     

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