Israeli settlers torch Palestinian homes, burn baby to death!!!

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  1. hoorshid

    hoorshid New Member

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    U absolutely don't because if U do then U can't sleep at nights...
    but about those information...that was HISTORY OF YOUR PROUD COUNTRY.just undeniable facts.history which is filled with the story of many many innocents blood.
    I didn't take part on those brutalities but I care [unlike U] and I've read a lot about Palestine.be sure with great Zionists lobby of medias if I was not sure about what I am saying I couldn't stand this atmosphere.
    :roflol:
    LOL!!!
    strongest what?!?! country!!!first that is a fake country!not real one!and second!strongest country?!?!!ISRAEL IS WEAKER THAN SPIDER'S HOUSE!always remember it!those who kill children and women and defenseless people to save their existence are absolutely weak!Palestinians blood is not strong pillar to build your dream on it!!that will make your building get demolished!very easy and very soon.
    but regardless to that I enjoy when I see Zionists are trying to patch themselves to Jews but Jews themselves don't let them.and that shows greatest betrayals and cruel to Jews are Zionists.
    also a bout your population.be sure if there is 8 million Zionist, there is billions of people all over the world who hates brutality, Israeli regime brought a bout.
     
  2. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    The only danger we face now are dust clouds from the collapsed buildings at the Arab world, your Muslim fantasies date before the first gain of sand we confiscated from the Arabs and we only grew since, so truly, bring it on :)
     
  3. k995

    k995 Well-Known Member

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    Wauw some deep brainwashing there.

    -Elections were almost a decade ago
    -Hamas is not just "kill all jews" people hae plenty of reasons besides that to have voted for them.
    -Decades long blackade
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    No not a nation a desperate and increasinly poor population locked inside a quite small area that once in a while gets bombed to pieces by israel. And you still wonder why they dont like israel? Again this is one of the main reasons this conflict keeps going on: extremists leaders on both sides supported by some brainwashed zealots like you .




    It doesnt ? Then all the settlements dont exist anymore ? Israel never really stopped with this policy and this is another main factor why the conflict keeps going. The continued land grab by israel because of extremists in the country.
     
  4. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    lol im not a brainwashed zealot :) they got their reasons for electing Hamas - I said so myself, its not crazy to fight an Org dedicated to fight us, its crazy not to.

    They got blockade because Hamas, they weren't blockaded before, they didn't chose Hamas because of it but chose Hamas and then got a blockade.


    They exists but no new settlements are being built to fit your claim that more land is being annexed every day.
     
  5. k995

    k995 Well-Known Member

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    Bombing civilians only strenghtens hamas, any non zealot can see that.

    Oh more BS, there has been some form of blockade since the late 1980's before hamas had any power or reach. IN fact hamas was allowed/supported by israel at first as a counterweight against fatah.


    http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-west-bank-settlement-construction-demolition

    "Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has approved the immediate construction of hundreds of settlement units in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem in an effort to stave off a growing threat posed by pro-settler parties in his rightwing coalition government."

    Yes they do and yes it is, continued settlements is one of the main causes for this conflict.
     
  6. Gilos

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    Sobbing impotently in dark corners while getting showers of rockets strenghtens hamas more IMO, facts are it made them fight the Da'esh branch in Gaza to assume control and stop the recent rocket leak.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karine_A_Affair

    They had a free open port and (*)(*)(*)(*)ed it up by waging war on a state they can't possibly win.


    Building more houses inside existing settlements area will (*)(*)(*)(*) some ppl off but its not grabbing more land from what was agreed in Oslo as area C.
     
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    Is hamas any weaker then before several coslty(not just in lives and money also in support for israel) operations by israel?
    No on the contrary they are more in power then ever before.

    How come you only see 2 actions: "sob" or "bomb everything flat"?

    You should check out the brittish northern ireland . They only started making progress with making peace with the moderates while behind the scenes kill everyone opposing them.




    It has been monitored and blocked for most ships a lot longer then that. Fact remains gaza has been blocked in some form from the 80's, not with the rise of hamas.

    Oslo has long been buried by both sides, area was actually to be transfered over to palestinians as it makes up 75% of all the land, israel never did that of course.
    Anyway ancient history israel now keeps pushing palestinian area's back and keeps increasing the size ans scope of its settlements against any international agreement on occupied territory just to apease the religious zealots in its gouvernement.
    That you supports this says enough.
     
  9. Gilos

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    No I don't think so, about a 1,000 Hamas fighters died and a lot more were wounded, that's about 1/4 of its conscripts, the public support might have increased, there is no objective way to find our short of elections, but even if it did, we are long past making them like us, its fear as deterrent.
    There are only 2 options during war = under rocket fire, what options can be made on diplomatic level can be made if we have a cease fire



    Israelis went shopping in Gaza in the 80's, I'm unaware of the "facts" you say exist to prove otherwise

    Oslo isn't dead its the only agreement we have with the Palestinians and the only one that gives credit to the Palestinian authority, I don't support further expansion of settelments - I do hope for a 2 state solution.
     
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    It is?


    First, strenght is actually to be around 20 000
    Second, hamas her strenght is the public support. hamas cannot exist without public support
    Third israel has launched 4 mayor operations and countless smaller ones the last decade, it doesnt appear that has put any fear into them.


    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mi...ry-might-tested-hamas-stamina-experts-n161881
    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-gains-credibility-fighting-force-analysts-say-371780262
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...4-reasons-hamas-has-not-lost-the-war-in-gaza/



    Excuses 1 rocket isnt a war. How many casulties did the hundreds of rockets make in israel? Correct barely any its an excuse for fearmongering and going to war .

    Oh and no doubt you are brainwashed into keeping facts far away from you but for anyone who can read numbers its clear the situation is more dangerous now then in the last decades.

    You dont support further expansion? That is whats happening right now, I doubt there was ever any long period it stopped.

    The count is now what? 4-500 000 settlers?


    And bombs arent going to bring you a 2state solution, i do hope you realise that? Negotiation is what is going to bring that, and this gov doesnt want to do that.
     
  11. Gilos

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    Last OP made a big difference and the quite from Gaza is my evidence, ofc they will attack again at some point that's the nature of a terror organization.

    Its stupid you expect me to apologize for not dying, if I need to grab my kids and run to the shelter 3 floors down - its war in my book and I expect my army to solve the matter the fastest way it can.
    Gaza port was open and Israelis went inside and more importantly they went outside Gaza,

    We don't feel its more dangerous, you don't live here so you don't appreciate the difference between OP casualties and everyday street terror casualties, those that lived in the 90's know what I'm talking about. I don't remember the last time a suicide bomber exploded a restaurant or a bus, terror is narrowed down to unorganized spontaneous attacks mostly. not ideal but better than what we had before.

    I'm sure you heard of land swap option so their numbers shouldn't really matter, ppl lived there for over 50 years having kids so they grow even without immigration, you talk as if one can push a button and vanish half a mil ppl.

    I know but unlike you I don't point just at one side and expect it to eat all the crap.
     
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    You ( like many) make the mistake to think hamas is the cause, its not : its the symptom of decades of oppresion.


    btw after cast lead they said the same, after Pillar of Defense and now after the last one you say it wont matter.

    If it doesnt matter what as the point? Besides of course play to part of the israeli audiance and get some more votes?

    I never said anything so stupid.

    Limited since the 80's there has always been some sort of blockade. Its become almost a full blockade the last decade. Thats simple facts ,


    Israel let them settle the area's its israels problem. Its called being responsible for the mess you make.

    If palestinians can agree to a land swap: ok but I doubt it and they have every right.

    I never did that so this argumetn makes no sense.
     
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    What is "Palestine"? Do you know?
    "Palestine" according to one preticular one particular international agreement, which the rights that were given there are still valid till today thanks to International Law, describes "Palestine" as the territory where the Jews will reconstitute their homeland.

    So when Israel alerted from future bombing is not to by just? Where, anywhere in the international law it says that a country must alert people from future attacks?
    Does transfering goods, temporary houses (until the restoration of Gaza will over), offer madical care to Gazans (already the family of Abu-Marzok was treatened in Israel or even the wife of Abu-Mazen), allow Gazans to work inside of Israel etc. , is not just nor fair, to you?


    Racism does not exist- it's only a social convention.
     
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    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    The nations of Palestine and Israel are two nations which are commonly denied or rejected by racist anti-Semites. Israel exists to be racist against Semites and its racism is frequenty defended by those filled with hatred.
     
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    In 1947, the international community honored the interests of Jewish migrants to divide Palestine with the Partition Plan, against the interests of the population majority. Today, we need to continue to honor the interests of Jewish migrants to Palestine by accepting both nations along this 1947 partition line. Not doing so is an act of anti-Semitism which goes against the interests of Jews who worked so hard to divide the land.
     
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    The ppl in Gaza and WB were never "oppressed", they lived very well with Israelis , the refugees in Jordan and Lebanon were the cause, they were the start of the "liberation". important to note since many think they were slaves that revolted their white masters, that's simply not true.

    We can live with the military option, its not the best way and I would rather replace it with an agreement but there is nothing to agree about when Hamas dictates terror OR evacuation from Israeli cities such as Haifa, Tel Aviv etc'.
    Symptom ? if we will never agree on core issues than its an aftershock, you can't cure physics.

    I don't question the current blockade, I said it wasn't always that way and there is a reason for it.

    They have a right but not "every right", the land was taken from Jordan following a war they initiated, following a UN resolution they opposed.

    To be practical, Israel will never withdraw from Jerusalem as was in 1967 or from its close settlements. that would be just an opinion if we didn't have the power to keep it. personally I think we also have the right - we can argue about that if you want.

    You expect immediate actions from one side regardless of its concerns, regardless of the day after. I think its very one sided.
     
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    You need to keep the UN resolutions if you expect Israel to keep them, since your side doesn't - so doesn't Israel.

    You are not the world or the UN, very few seek Israel destruction.
     
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    As I said:
    Racism does not exist- it's only a social convention.
     
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    This is about showing Jews respect and opposing anti-Semitism by accepting the nation of Israel next to the nation of Palestine along the 1947 border drawn at the request of Jews made in the Partition Plan.
     
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    Racism is Israel. Israel is the hatred of Semites. This is demonstrated by the Israeli reject of the Jewish 1947 partition of Palestine. Why is Israel so heavily anti-Jewish?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Rest in peace. Another Semites has been sadly murdered by the Israeli hatred of Jews.
     
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    Israeli reject? what are you talking about? Israel didnt exist in 1947!!

    To the partition plan of 1947 were acceptance and rejection. The Jews accepted the plan while the Arabs rejected it, hence people cant rely on this plan nowadays since it is not valid.
    This Arab rejection has eventually made the independence war to took place.

    OH BTW- According to Cavalli-Sforza, the father of Genetic anthropology, which means whereby his the decisive word in this field in his researches he came to a conclusion that "races" dont exist:
    Source: https://alumni.stanford.edu/get/page...ticle_id=40759

    Races dont exist, thus Racism doesnt exist.
     
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    It is the duty of Israelis to honor and respect the Jewish 1947 partition of Palestine. As such, Israel must do everything in its power to ensure that the nation of Palestine exists along the 1947 border as demanded by Jews. All of this land-grabbing, blaming and condemning of hated Semites coming from Israel is nothing but racist anti-Semitism which shames all Jews. When is Israel ever going to stop being so heavily racist against Jews?
     
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    Jewish migrants to Palestine divided the land with the 1947 partition plan to create both Israel and Palestine. Sadly, instead of honoring Jews, Israel has been hating and murdering Semites since. Thus, Israel is racism. Israel is the anti-Semite of anti-Semitism. Israel exists to ensure that Semites will always be hated and murdered. Israel is everything that criticism of racism was ever meant to oppose.
     
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    You expect Israelis to roll back to 1947 proposed land ?
     

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