The headline definitely caught my eye, and it opened with the good news/bad news story of lobsters in New England, or the lack thereof: Imagine that - global warming warms the oceans before land and then things start to happen. While some appear good (like lobster fishing in Maine), it's mostly bad and could get very, very bad: We've already noted the damage happening to coral reefs all over the world; the change to fish populations and other marine life noted above are just more examples. So, where does it lead? One final likely seriously bad effect - like if you thought that Syrian exodus into Europe is bad, you haven't seen anything yet:
The Earth will do what the Earth will do. Life will adapt to the new changes. Always has, and always will.
Lived most of my life on the CT shore and i can tell you a major issue is its over fished. But carry on with your thoughts
So they can't say for sure...but they weaved a nice "scare ya" story out of it for the AGW cultists. Life in a Blender....that sounds scary...we better do something...even though we really cant. Save it for Sunday cultists.
No! Absolutely not! The earth will do what it's doing only because not enough people are voting for Democrats and the EPA isn't getting enough funding... Yeah, something like that!
The Finger Lakes of New York were carved out by glaciers. There are also boulders in New York's Central Park that were dragged there by glaciers. These glaciers are gone. With incredibly large climate related activity like that occurring naturally, how can anyone assume lobsters moving around is due to "overheating" waters as the article puts it? Also, even though I briefly scanned the article, I didn't see any before and after temperature readings of what these lobsters are dealing with and there is no corrolation between temps and their movement because no temps are cited. But there is this: May be getting warmer? So this lobster thing appears to be speculation at best.
The oceans are not warming. If the oceans were warming, the sea levels would rise. The rise would come from melting of the polar ice caps and more importantly the volume of water in the oceans would increase based on thermal expansion. The agency that is solely responsible for monitoring the mean sea level of the oceans is the National Coast and Geodetic Survey. The base data from the NCGS comes from actually measuring the sea levels for twenty two a a quarter year cycles and not computer modelling. The data from the NCGS is used by FEMA to assess flood insurance rates based on their FIRM maps. There has been no upward adjustment in FIRM maps in several decades. Why? Because the data doesn't warrant it. Please think about that. The government cannot raise their rates that they are underwriting for flood insurance because the data doesn't warrant it. When was the last time you saw any government agency turn down even another penny of revenue? Do you believe the government is interested in more revenue? Of course they are. So accepting the science of measuring mean sea levels is like testimony against interest, some of the best evidence that can be found. So why should we believe the NCGS data, as opposed to NASA or NOAA? Simply this, the NCGS data is compiled by surveyors who are professionally licensed and regulated by professional boards. If they fake data, they will lose their license, lose their livelihood, and lose their reputation. Simply, for the surveyors, the risk is not worth falsifying data. Of course, if NASA and NOAA fake data, they are rewarded with grants and additional funding. Who would you believe?
Well, yes it will. Except there are no "normal" reasons for the unprecedented warming we are now experiencing that will completely explain it. That only leads you right back to humans and our effects. Fine. How do you explain what's been happening the past 50 years? Normal changes? of one of the phony pseudo-scientific pieces of nonsense, all of which are either totally laughable or blow out of the water by real science.
That is not the cause. Stop the fear mongering. Sea life can adjust to a wide range of changes. If the temps did rise a few hundredths of a degree or even 10th's, it happened very slowly and the sea life didn't even notice it. I have reef tanks and trust me, it can take a wide swing of changes as long as it happens slowly.
Um I live here. If there is a lobster shortage its because fat democrats need their lobster dinners. You cant even get out of the harbor here without navigating through thousands and thousands of pot lines. Its over fished.
Whatever the "problem" is for a Liberal, the solution is always the same. MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL, MORE OF YOUR MONEY. Tell me where I am wrong.
You guys laugh as you flood the West with the 3rd world, gleefully predicting the end of capitalism, the white race, and white Western culture. I'll laugh as the Earth continues to warm, threatening tons of cute and furry animals, raising ocean levels, and turning glaciers into puddles. I'll fill up my gas guzzler tomorrow on my way out of town, happy in knowing that I'm putting out lots of CO2 that will hopefully accelerate this process.
I have never had a faux man made global warming fear monger explain how this earth warmed after the ice age without man causing it...I wonder why that is? Could it be they will not admit the earth's temps have always cycled? - - - Updated - - - Exactly.
Think of it this way the Lobster will be cooked when you catch it....just add lemon and melted butter. WOW! 7.2 tenths of one degree over 30 years. Pass the SPF 50.
For all of my deniers, safely ensconced in their fantasy bubble - one drop does not make a flood, nor does two. However, at some point, as each drop falls (like the lobster story), it becomes harder and harder to deny what is happening. But I know where this is going - when we have passed the tipping point, and all hell's breaking loose, the deniers will rise up and holler, "how did this happen and why didn't anyone tell us about it?" Hopefully, there are enough sane people in this world who can prevent the deliberately ignorant from prevailing. (but it still won't stop me from posting stories like this as I run across them)
So shouldn't the warm water species be balling it up? Since once cold waters are becoming warmer? Gives them more area to live, right? Or are you going to try and spin it and give me some scientific reason they dont? For all you know, this 'migration' has happened 100 times before on this planet, we just weren't around to see it.
" Hopefully, there are enough sane people in this world who can prevent the deliberately ignorant from prevailing." There are. The sane recognize that the earth's temps are a natural phenomenon.
What caused the massive warming at the end of the last Great Ice Age, which is far greater than anything happening today, with a far lower CO2 level. O Great Knower of the Cliff's Notes Warmist excuses.
You think there has only been one ice age? The earth has had many and warmed long before the 1st man came to be - - - Updated - - - Sounds like Chinese water torture. Im sure none of us will be saying this. More scare tactics. - - - Updated - - - Sounds like Chinese water torture. Im sure none of us will be saying this. More scare tactics. - - - Updated - - - Sounds like Chinese water torture. Im sure none of us will be saying this. More scare tactics.
