Israel - Russian Boots Together With Syrian Army

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't change the fact that Israel uses bigger bombs in urban area's as well uses WMD's in urban area's compared to Syria. It just is. I also don't see you dispute this. You're just sidestepping away from this with your death toll thing, as if Assad is solely responsible for every single person who died and ISIS does not exist.
     
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    I'm talking about instances like the great democracy supported Saddam Hussein, who tortured to death plenty of people while unleashed it's WMD's against it's own civilians around the days a minister of that great democracy shook the hand of Saddam for doing a swell job. I bet you excuse that kind of behavior the great democracy that causes the torture of 100.000's of people even when it leads to death, when it is to the benefit to you and you dont get to see it. Those people do not swore to kill you and your family. But the idea your country remains the most powerful in the region because of those geopolitics with cheap foreign resources... you will excuse that stuff. When 10.000's of Palestinians need to be moved so the Jew state can be enlarged or that water can be drained from the WB to benefit the Jews elsewhere, than you excuse the warcrimes and find the violent behavior that counter it just terroristic.
     
  3. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It turned out the chemical weapons were not the kind that the Syrian government had, but were supplied by Turkey's MIT to the terrorists. The terrorists had been defeated by Assad's forces, and wanted Nato to bomb Damascus and help them out.
     
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  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama's foreign policy advisers at the Brookings Institute want the opposite. They want Syria to be broken up into parts which can be easily controlled, and will always be in friction with one another. Basically they don't want a Syria where everyone will be living peacefully with one another, the way they did before. .

    It's only natural for the Syrian people to want to go back to the towns where their families had lived for centuries, but we are not talking about what the Syrian people want, after all human rights is only a ruse Washington uses for propaganda. If Syria is broken into enclaves the people will never be able to go back to their own lands. If they want to return, it will be to a totally different part of Syria than the part they were living in before.

    Of course the question arises, where is all the land going to go to if it can't be claimed by its original inhabitants? No doubt to corporations and the pockets of certain individuals. Kind of reminds me of Ukraine.

    This might be why the refugees were given money and encouraged to go to Germany since it would facilitate Washington's plans of ethnically cleansing Syria and reshaping it into its own image.

    Of course Russia opposes this, and that's why they have been trying to find a peaceful solution.
     
  6. Mahran

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  7. Margot2

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    I have watched it twice.... I think Assad is a complete flake or else he was stoned on valium.. I also think he was deceitful.

    That's why I asked you if he really was the power in Syria.. He acts like such a limp noodle that I wondered if his brother and his uncles are the real power.

    Are Assad's wife and Children in Syria now?
     
  8. Mahran

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    I answered you about the real power in Syria. and for your question about his wife and children, really nobody know if they are still in Syria or not.
     
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    I must have missed your answer.. Sorry.
     
  10. Mahran

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    this is a copy of my answer

    The real power is not Bashar Alassad , it is the army and Intelligence that his father (Hafez Alassad) prepared them before.

    Hafez Alassad his father was an Officer in Syrian army and he made a military coup and became Syrian president from 1970 to 2000 when he died and his son Bashar Alassad became a president

    and helping him now Hezbullah from lebanon and Iran
     
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    And the proof for the chemical weapons attack is?

    The fact is that the Sarin nerve agent attack that occurred in Ghouta on 21st August 2013 was a false flag operation conducted by Turkey. It was the proof of this, gathered by British intelligence and analysed at the UK's chemical and biological unit at Porton Down, that brought a halt to the then imminent US, French and British air-strikes against Assad and Syria. But it was a close run thing.

    The below is what Sy Hersh wrote about it:

    You can read the full Hersh piece HERE.
     
  12. Gilos

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack

    Assad may not have ordered that attack but his men did, Mahran said its the Army that has the real control on the state so it makes sense.

    Rebels killing themselves during war to gain sympathy from countries that didnt give a F### on them for years - is overreaching big time.
     
  13. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whenever a crime is committed the first thing a detective looks for is a motive. It amazes me that in the chemical attack and the shoot down of the airliner the motive was completely ignored, and the ones who had no motive were the ones that were accused. Which should make anyone wonder what's going on?

    Also when the chemical attack occurred the rebels were defeated and trapped, so what need would Assad have to attack them with chemicals when they were winning? The inspectors from the UN were also there to see if Assad was the one who used chemicals in another incident. So again, why would he jeopardize himself by using them when the UN was there? Wouldn't this have given the US the excuse to bomb him?

    As for the rebels, the only way they could win at the time was by having Nato bomb Damascus, and a false flag chemical attack would have given Nato just the excuse it needed.
     
  14. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seymour Hersh was the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist who found out there was no genocide against Albanians in Kosovo, and the dead bodies found after the war, were killed while Nato was bombing Belgrade. No American publication would publish his article, and he was forced to go to London to have it published.

    Contrary to what we are told, a free press does not exist in the United States of America.
     
  15. Jack Napier

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    It’s mental that this is STILL going on. That’s been about 5years and counting.

    Estimates of fatalities vary, but let’s just all agree its high and leave it there. I’m no expert on the ground or anything, but it seemed to me that relatively speaking Syria was one of the most safe and stable nations in that region.

    People parrot stuff about “moderate Muslims”, but in fact Assad IS a moderate leader who is a Muslim. Assad ensured the safety of all Syria’s religious and ethnic minorities, hence why it was pretty stable.

    The Syrian people by and large backed Assad and the Government. They still do, it would be impossible for him and his Government to have held out this long otherwise.

    That so called “Free Syrian Army” was a pile of crap. Many weren’t Syrians. They weren’t really an army. And they weren’t fighting for anyone’s liberty.

    They were mostly non Syrian invaders and armed to the teeth. I would expect my Government to fight such a force. The Syrians expected Assad to. He has and is.

    Any Syrians that were part of the so called FSA were mostly local gangsters and criminals, the kind you would expect to be hovering around hoping for a collapse of the state. Then there was a lot of propaganda and pish about Assad using chemical weapons on his “own people”.

    Support Assad and the Syrian Government. Give them the means and tools to throw these murderers and gangsters out of their country or into prison.
     
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    Are Nation leaders basing their foreign policy on Screen plays of House of Cards?
     
  17. Gilos

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    What rebels? the poisioned ones ? they used it on themselves in middle of war and just assumed someone neutral will pick up on that and act ? no, sometimes things as just as they seem, those that fought the rebels, known to have the biggest Chim weapon arsenal in the world, trained to use it, asked to use it but were denied - eventually did use it. they had the motive, the ability and ruthlesness to do it.
     
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    You say these things from your extensive patrols in the area ? you saw them talked to them ?

    I love the "experts" in this forum, the Syrian war been waging on for years , millions of casulties, wounded and refugees - all curse Assad and his regime, but the ppl here they know the truth :)

    The truth is waging in Syria as we speak and nothing can stop it, Assad will dangle from an end of a rope and his closest ppl will do that once they smell the smoke.
     
  19. Ivan88

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    Gilos, the propagandist for Greater Israel pretending that the whole issue is President Assad.
    If the problem was President Assad, the terrorists would not be attacking the Syrian People.
    The US and others started the conflict via assassinations of the public and police/military to make people react and feed the fire.
    Mossad is directing the Islamic State. CIA/Mossad, not much difference.

    Probably Gilos is blaming the Russians for the US hijack of Kiev and all the resultant disasters committed at the behest of the US.
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  20. Gilos

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    I never supported the "greater Israel" concept here or anywhere else, I said if we do want to expand and we control everything under the Sun, why should we expand toward the East ? we should be heading toward Europe and culture....., you give us all this power and then this idiotic goal of controling millions moreof hostile Muslims....in the desert.....

    Huh? who would they attack ?
    No, Assad Tanks in Homes did the trick, so say the Syrians, it makes no sense to ignore the victims testimonies.

    Im not very familer with the Ukrainian situation. that's why I hardly post in such threads, but Putin angle is obvious, leave Krim annexation alone or lose the entire Ukraine and worse.
     
  21. Ivan88

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    Well, I have to apologize if Gilos doesn't support the Greater Israel plan.
    Who would "they" attack in Syria? If they hate President Asaad so much, they would attack the President, and not the Syrian people.
    And, since they have been attacking the Syrian People from the very beginning, the Syria People are the target.

    Tanks in Homs? The terrorists seized the town and the Syrian army drove the terrorists out. Then the terrorists took it again and so on.
    The terrorists barricade themselves in the city and tanks are necessary to take them out.

    This war on Syria was planned long before the first attacks. Tunnels were dug for supply routes etc. long before the first shots.

    That Gilos ignores the US et. al. assassinations at the begining of the chaos in Syria that were designed to cause a civil war as the US did in Yugoslavia, shows that he doesn't have an accurate view on the subject.

    The US has a record of causing immense harm everywhere it sticks its Talmudist controlled nose, and has no reputation of virtue in international relations. Even that recent Iran deal is probably a cover story for future aggression against Iran.

    Victims of US aggression in Libya:
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    Never said I was an "expert" bro. You may not be an "expert" either. Not even sure what an "expert" would constitute.
     

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