Turkey shoots down Russian jet fighter. Putin accuses Turkey of terrorist support

What an incredible mess the Middle East is. Putin has commanded his forces to remove any threat to Russia.

USA allies on the ground apparently murdered the ejecting pilots as they parachuted down.

Russia has called out Turkey for supporting terrorists and buying oil from ISIS.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...-jet-downed-in-syria_56546a91e4b0879a5b0c54aa

 

It is as messy as it could get, thanks to the competent leadership of out Community-Organizer-in-Chief. Thank you, Obama.

 

Turkey warned Russia not to fly their jets over Turkish territory, multiple times. This particular jet was warned 10 times to get out of Turkish airspace. When armed airplanes enter sovereign airspace, fireworks are the norm.

 

War is no good!

 

This much is for certain.

That Russian Su-24 was ordered to enter Turkish airspace.

Such a mistake is unlikely in the extreme.

AboveAlpha

 

The aircraft was targeted and downed outside Turkish air space.

 

Bush created the disasters in the world today with his misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq and his victimization of Iraqi Sunnis after the invasion.

Bush's buddies the Sauds are fomenting, financing and arming the terrorists in the Middle East.

Turkey is profiting form trading with ISIS.

 

You know, it's gotten real old years ago. Either blame Obam for the mess we're in, or blame Obama for inability to get out of someone else's (*)(*)(*)(*). Eithe way, Obama's fault.

 

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George W. Bush set the stage for our ill-fated and bloody involvement in the Middle East. Bush II, otherwise known as Barack Obama, followed through on his master plan.

 

The aircraft was targeted inside Turkish airspace and downed only 1km outside Turkish airspace. Jets move fast. Russia was warned.

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Yeah we were never in the middle east before 2003? What a joke.

 

It's really sad that neo-con war-mongers keep trying to place all the blame for their crimes on Obama.

But it wasn't Obama who let AQ kill 3,000 Americans on our soil, and it wasn't Obama who lied the country into a disastrous, ill-conceived invasion of Iraq which directly lead to the emergence of ISIS as an international terrorist group.

Surely, Obama shares a great deal of the blame for continuing the myopic, deluded policies of neo-cons, but it's the neo-con cabal who is solely responsible for the existence of ISIS. They demanded we invade Iraq and they are the ones who turned the Middle East from a perennial complication into a perpetual nightmare.

That is the certainly the conventional propaganda narrative being pushed by western central governments. Apparently, you take their word as gospel.

 

Maybe when the neo-con cowards accept responsibility for what they did in Iraq, people will stop bringing it up. But the neo-con Republicans share a lot in common with Democrats when it comes to accepting responsibility for their failures. They look for anyone or anything to blame aside from themselves.

 

ISIS never existed before Obama.

 

The biggest joke are so-called "conservatives" constantly attempting to rationalize the big government failure that is Bush. Not only did he invade Iraq and cause the emergence of ISIS as an international terrorist group, he shredded the fourth and fifth amendments by signing into law the patriot act and authorizing the mass domestic spying program that would have made Joseph Stalin blush with envy.

But Republicans are not real conservatives anymore than Democrats are real liberals. They are all fakes, phonies, and cowards clinging to collectivism, statism, and party loyalty, which is why you will find them desperately trying to shift blame away from their beloved cult leaders, no matter how obvious their failures and crimes may be.

 

MOD EDIT - Rule 3

The fact of the matter is that ISIS is simply the present iteration of AQ in Iraq, which never existed until Bush and company invaded and destabilized Iraq.

But Republicans, just like Democrats, get their marching orders from the party elites and their latest orders are to lie and lie repeatedly about Bush's obvious involvement in the creation of ISIS as an international terrorist group.

My question is: How can anyone engage in such blatant falsehoods and misrepresentations without being crippled by the immense weight of a mountain of lies and propaganda? Anyone with half a brain knows that Bush is responsible for the emergence of ISIS in Iraq. That is beyond question. So anyone who claims otherwise is either purposely lying or hopelessly ignorant.

 

Really? You can sell that to Americans. It's just be rebranded. From Mujahadeen to Telbean from Taleban to Al-Qaeda from Al-Qaeda to Al-Nusra, from Al-Nusra to moderate rebels from moderate rebels to ISIS...the never ending story...I'm not even going to mention all those other groups which popped up across Africa...Keep Americans confused.

 

ISIS began when Bush victimized the Iraqi Sunnis and fired the Sunnis who were in the military and then Bush bombed Fallujah.

Bush smashed Iraq into pieces and factions. ISIS emerged from the rubble of Fallujah.

 

Prove the entity called ISIS existed before Obama.

 

If George Bush was not ISIS's father, at the very least ISIS had an uncle; Uncle Sam. The story in the link below. Read it and weep.

http://www.cracked.com/personal-exp...-death-squads-isiss-bizarre-origin-story.html

 

The myopia you mentioned earlier consists mostly of, 'Bush isn't president now, Obama is, therefore everything is Obama's fault'. Stunning logic, wouldn't you agree?

 

Turkish Intelligence Officer: "Putin's intervention in Syria is against Islam and international law, ISIS is a reality and we are optimistic about the future." W.T.F? This from a member of NATO?! An ally?! FOH.

http://www.awdnews.com/top-news/tur...eality-and-we-are-optimistic-about-the-future

 

So according to you Bush deserves a clean slate after getting his anus run outta town.

Bush's legacy is wars, death, misery, refugees, terrorists and perpetual turmoil in the Middle East.

Bush also strangled the USA economy to death in his tenure and harmed more Americans than terrorists.

 

Putin is probably correct. Turkey and obama are protecting ISIS. Now that Russia is actually damaging ISIS it is obvious they have been protected until now.

 

ISIS would not exist without the cooperation of Turkey for passage of oil, recruits, money and weapons. Officials connected to Turkish president Erdogan are making mountains of money from ISIS terrorism. Erdogan's son is reputedly making a fortune buying cheap oil from ISIS and reselling at a huge profit.

 

Point #1
Turkey declared during civil war in Syria a 5km wide strip of non flying zone inside Syrian territory ... what is by the way the same area which Turkey declared all the time before as their own territory in dispute to Syria!
Since then, Turkey handled this 5km zone like own Air Space ... is this correct? No!

Point #2
Even Turkish report tells that 1 SU-24 was only for some seconds in real Turkish Airspace, the rest of the time the jet was inside these 5km of Point #1! Is this a reason to shot down the SU-24? No ... and it does not matter at all how many times Turkish pilots warned the SU-24.
If this is now suddenly a valid reason, then we will have dozens of shot down jets every year around the world and the Age of the Cold War will be worldwide like summer time in Sahara desert then!

Point #3
What gave the Turks any right to bomb estimated Kurdish PKK positions inside Syria? Nothing!
So they entered in criminal way Syrian Air Space due to fact that Syrian Air Force is too weak to prevent this because civil war losses. Since Russia entered here, the rules are now changed and Russian Air Force is doing the job of Syrian Air force with order of the legal representing person for Syria - Assad. Even Assad is a butcher of dictator, it does not change the fact that he is still legally representing state of Syria ... or did anyone recognize area controlled by FSA as legal government? No!

Point #4
Due to fact that the complete heated situation at this 5km strip between Syria and Turkey, it was more as a silly action by Russian Air Force to enter this area instead giving a crap of these silly 5km strip with their jets! So 1/3 guilt of this all is also given by Russia too, because that they enter the area and giving a crap on Turkish nagging about could be rated as provocation too.