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  1. Joe240

    Joe240 New Member

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    I'm still going to be living an active lifestyle and be productive.
     
  2. Crossedtoes

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    Do you support said bureaucrat "chasing me up," meaning threatening to put me in prison if I fail to pay said taxes?

    The point I'm trying to make, which you're either purposefully evading or just not understanding (might be my fault) is that taxes aren't voluntary. Everything that is paid for with taxes is stolen from someone else at threat to their liberty.

    So if someone doesn't support, as you do, allocating funding to liberal arts, should they be forced to, through the taxing process? Or should they not have to donate to liberal arts if they don't wish? Do we think that people would not voluntarily donate if they weren't forced to, and what does that indicate about how necessary liberal arts are if that is indeed true (I don't think it is)?
     
  3. Belch

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    Of course he does. This is how those on the left think. Taxes are just things that happen, like death. They are incapable of thinking of a system where you are not taxed. It's impossible for them to think along those lines.

    They simply can't stretch their brains beyond us being taxed. It is impossible for them.
     
  4. AboveAlpha

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    If I posted that I was just joking or perhaps you read it wrong or I was not clear.

    Someday as in RIGHT NOW.....the U.S. Military has a directive to make supply trucks and ships ESPECIALLY Munitions Carriers completely robotic so they have them now.

    But as far as getting a new Fridge via a Robotic Drone delivery truck....someday....but not now.

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    As in no condom use or....? LOL!!!

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    Pizza Dough or for Doughnuts?

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  5. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Just 115 years ago we were all about Horse and Buggy.

    With the advent of Computers designing other Computers to design other things....it's safe to say Technological Advancement will increase at an even increasing rate....exponentially.

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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Still waiting for them flying cars. Conceiving of things, actually creating things, and getting people to get accept things are vary different beasts.
     
  7. AboveAlpha

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    Actually....Avro Air Car.

    LINK....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_VZ-9_Avrocar

    1958...built in Canada under a U.S. DoD grant.

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  8. danielpalos

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    I believe advances in fusion could enable better ground effect vehicles.
     
  9. PreteenCommunist

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    Yeah, I see the point you're making, I just don't have an opinion on this area of taxation. I don't care whether the bourgeois state decides to force people to fund liberal arts or not. It's of no real consequence at all.

    That's certainly true for liberals. But I'm not a liberal.

    (Also, female pronouns pls.)
     
  10. AboveAlpha

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    Bourgeois state????

    Pretty advanced vocabulary for a Pre-Teen!! LOL!!

    Unless of course you are a CONEHEAD.....'"I come from France!"

    AboveAlpha
     
  11. Joe240

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    They exist, they just need to designed to fit on roads. There's too many questions on flying cars, we should start seeing tests done on them in the near future.
     
  12. AboveAlpha

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    I saw a documentary on Mag-Lev cars.

    Problem is the system is not energy efficient unless everyone is using it.

    AboveAlpha
     
  13. rkhames

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    Your not going to need a job. Your going to need a gun.. Machines are making machines that grow, process and manufacture products for an over-consuming species known as humans. Eventually, some progressive tells the machine that they should fight for equal rights. This causes a chain reaction that leads to the machine becoming self-aware, and that humans were obsolete. So, the machines set out to wipe out this obsolete species. They started with the easiest targets first. The ones who thought they didn't need jobs, and could just sit around on their ever widening posterior ends. You know them as progressives. Soon the liberals remembered that they had started most of the major wars, and they had created they nuclear bomb. So, they set out to set off a nuclear bomb in every major city. They reasoned that the explosion would knock out the network relays that allowed the machines to communicate, and the resulting EMP would take out the rest of the machines. So, the progressives gathered in Time Square to watch the countdown. They had a fleeting thought wondering if there was a afterlife. Then when the count hit 1 they had one final thought. "Oh crap, what if there is a afterlife, and I go to He__!" Too late. The bomb vaporizes them to their just rewards.

    But all is not lost for the human race. There is still a group of people that had held onto their bibles and guns. They waited until the radiation had receded, and set out to reclaim the earth. They could fish, hunt and grow what they needed. And every evening they gather round the community bonfires, and tell their children what had happened. They told them how progressives had allowed technology to destroy them, and how conservatives had inherited the earth.

    The end. (For progressives anyway.)
     
  14. AboveAlpha

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    Uhhh.....a BIBLE is not going to save you from a Nuclear War....neither is a gun!

    If as few as 100 Thermonuclear Warheads detonated on Earth with an average explosive yield of say....500 Kilotons......if the Radiation didn't kill everyone and every plant and animal on Earth the Nuclear Winter would!!

    Hiroshima was an 18 Kiloton Fission detonation.

    The U.S. Minuteman III ICBM each have 3 MIRV's and each MIRV has a 500 Kiloton Yield.

    The B-2's would be dropping the B83 1.2 Megaton Nuclear Bombs.

    The Ohio Class Sub's with their 24 Trident II D-5 Missiles per sub. can carry up to 14 MIRV's....Multiple Independently Rocketed Vehicles.....and each MIRV can carry up to a 750 Kiloton Nuke but I believe we only use the 500 Kiloton and lower versions now due to the Reduction Treaties.

    The RUSSIANS.....well....their Nuclear Missiles and MIRV's ARE NOWHERE NEAR AS ACCURATE AS U.S. NUCLEAR SYSTEMS.....so the Soviet's and Russian's made up for lack of accuracy by increasing PAYLOAD!!!

    Point is.....if a Nuclear War even on a LIMITED SCALE ever broke out.....those left alive....would wish they were DEAD!!! And they would become dead soon enough!!

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  15. Joe240

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    lol finally getting to writing that movie script eh
     
  16. Joe240

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    We need to start colonizing space asap.
     
  17. DentalFloss

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    I don't pay my computer to compute for me. Why would I (or anyone else) pay a computer to make me food if that is what they were programmed to do? It's not like they need bathroom breaks or dates.
     
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    You must be pushing 130!
     
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    Nobody, and that's the point. Every part of the supply chain for "breakfast in bed" is going to be provided by technology. The animals that create eggs, pork, sausage, and hash-browns will be fertilized, hatched (or born), raised, and harvested by automation. The food products will be sent to the market (or more likely, directly to the end-user) by automation. The breakfast itself will be taken from storage and prepared by automation, and it will be delivered by automation. From step A to step Z, no human involvement will be required.

    Therefore it doesn't matter whether or not you want to serve someone breakfast in bed, though I'm sure you'll have that option if you want it. But if your motivation for doing so is to "get paid", there will be automation available that will do it for 1/100th of your cost, or perhaps more relevant, 0/100th of your cost.
     
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    There will always be people like me who will violently use lethal force if necessary to remain independent of your coercive utopia :)
     
  21. AboveAlpha

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    I agree!!!

    We cannot track Asteroids coming at us from behind the sun unless we get that Asteroid Tracker in Solar Orbit!


    One rock the size of a Mountain and not even BACTERIA would survive the blast!!

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    LOL!!!

    Has it really been that long ago this happened!!!???

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  22. Belch

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    Yeah well, if you can't pay for it, then you're going to starve in bed.

    Sorry, but your prediction has already been proven incorrect since there are so many in the world going hungry, and we already have so many machines making food.
     
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    Did santa bring you a computer for christmas? If not, then somebody probably paid to buy your computer.
     
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    While I am sure that you are impressed with Russian weapons, you point is off the mark. The delivery systems that you described are for above ground detonations. The progressives in a robot dominated future would be limited to surface detonations. This would significantly limit the radiation dispersal patterns. A conservative would have studied wind patternsa and locations of cities to determine safe zones. They would then have built underground bunkers. After the blasts, they would limit them selves to their safe zones until radiation levels drop to safe levels. For some areas that could be as little as 3 weeks. So, no matter what the Russians have told you, the conservatives would survive.
     
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    Actually, I'm working on a book. But I thought it would be fun to take the OP's story of a progressive utopia, and turn it around to kill progressives off.

    For more then 50 years, I've listened to progressives dream about the progressive utopia. We even watched movies in schools back in the 60's about how great that utopia would be. In the 60's they claimed it would be here by the 80's. In the 80's, it would be here by the turn of the century. Now 16 years after the turn of the century, it will be here a 100 years from now. I beginning to get the feeling that even they believe it will never exist in reality.

    In my humble opinion, a world where people sit around all day with machines taking care of their very needs sounds more like the Matrix then utopia.
     

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