Texas family: We’re getting death threats for not baking a cake for same-sex ‘marriag

The Texas bakery knew full well that they were breaking the law when they refused to bake a cake for a gay couple so they deserve the backlash of their actions from a legal standpoint. If threats made to them were real, they certainly can call the police to handle it. I think they were looking to get cash from the public who support their beliefs.

 

We should tear down a the churches and bake gay cakes........anything less is hostile homophobic behavior which must be eliminated from our society......

 

Men are can sell thier duaghters into slavery, make the marry their rapist, you cam kill a person for working on sundays.....so those should be legal to you right?? Afterall it is a christian belief and should be recognized by the federal government.



This is such bull(*)(*)(*)(*) it bigots being bigots and they are to cowardly amd they have to hide behind a book to do it

 

I would seriously doubt 1 single liberal would let any muslim off the hook for killing a gay person. But there are lots of people so 1 or a few may be around.
But anyone saying liberals support muslims who throw gays off of roof's is a liar.
Liberals support not throwing every muslim under the bus for the actions of radicals. They lie so often, they don't even know what they say anymore and if there is any truth to it. Just how much hate can the fling.

 

And if there are enough people with strong belief that christianity should be eradicated. That is fine?
Don't allow christians on any public properties?

 

Don't be so extreme. Just tear down fake ideas. Just tear down bigotry. That is all most are asking.
So we don't need to do as you wish. Some liberals are just so extreme.

 

But you see that again is the difference, the bakery is not saying no gays allowed , they will serve gay people from their store but the only thing is they do not want to support gay marriage. If I owned a bakery and I said I will not serve gay people at all, then that is discrimination. But saying I will not participate in an event is my choice. I do not have to cater to any event I do not wish too, but I can not tell you that I will not serve you based on your race, religion, or sexual orientation.

Taxi cabs throwing people out because they are simply gay, is discrimination. Doctors refusing medical care to a person because they are gay is discrimination. But when it comes to events it is a different story. Now would it be discriminatory if say gay people came to that taxi service or Doctor and asked that those businesses be representatives in an upcoming gay parade and the doctor and taxi service refuse that their name show they are supporting the gay parade? No it wouldn't , they have a right to say what their business supports and does not support in that case. You can not force businesses to take part in an event they do not wish too.

If a muslim bakery did not want to make a cake for my wedding because it would be against their religious beliefs, then so be it I will walk the hell out and go give my money to someone who will. It is that simple. But if they said they will not serve me that cupcake because I am not muslim then that is a different story.

 

But the churches teach evil messages such as homosexuality being a sin.......this can't go on in a free society and such speech must be stopped......reeducation camps for these bigoted Christians would seem to be the only solution........force them to bake gay cakes on a daily basis until they get their minds 'right'...

 

Yes they do. But as long as it stays in the church. Let them. But you are sooo correct, they teach each member to be haters.

 

I have different ideals, I don't conform to any church and I believe in a different way of life. I don't have to be what they want me to be nor do I have to be what you want me to be. You sure as hell are not my master and have no damn business telling me what I will and will not believe.

I happen to believe people are truly equal but their own faults cause their consequences, and i do not believe anyone can tell me I am going to hell as that is not their judgement call. Are you ok with being a pathetic hypocrite when it comes to hating others, telling them what they should believe and demanding that others be punished for not thinking the same way you do? You are no better than the preachers that damn people to hell because you are not part of their congregation.

 

nope, you just tell them the same thing we tell those that wont bake a cake for an inter-racial marriage... you either sell them to everyone or no one, no discriminating

if they want to discriminate they need to open a private club instead of a business open to the public

the other option of course woudl be not to sell wedding cakes period....

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I think the reeducation camp idea would be more efficient and less costly....

 

I agree no one should be forced to participate in an event.
I disagree a wedding cake is endorsing or promoting an event (or any different from a cupcake)

 

Well some people believe it is against their views to cater to a certain event. Would you make a Jewish bakery cater to a Neo Nazi event, or force them to shut down their business because they refused? WOuld you make a gay bakery cater to a Westboro Baptist event, or force them to shut their doors if they did not? Would you force a christian baker to cater to a Satanic cults event, and force them to go out of business if they refuse?

Event and individual person are 2 different things. And private businesses should have the right to choose the events they cater too, and in the end the people will decide to support that business or not too. And if those businesses lose money because the people decided not to support that particular business, then so be it. If it gained money then so be it. Business is business and you are either going to win or lose, but to be forced to shut down just because they don't want to make a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing wedding cake is beyond stupid.

Now if that baker said "Gays are not allowed in my store" , well then yeah Houston we have a problem.

 

yes at one time people tried to do this to inter-racial marriage .... they lost then too

if you do not want to participate, then don't sell wedding cakes or open a private club to members only

 

That was the government, they are not allowed to deny marriage licenses or deny to perform a civil service of marriage. A chruch or other entity can deny performing a service if it does not meet their requirements.

If the government had a bakery they would have to bake cakes for pretty much anything as long as it was within the law. A private bakery does not have to bake what they dont want too.

 

churches and non-profits have always and still are exempt

as are private clubs

the government and businesses open to the public are not exempt

 

I believe when a facility advertises a good to the public they must honor their statements. When they open their doors in an area of the country that bars discrimination they must abide by those laws. If they don't like them then they should either move or open a private club.

So far you have compared serving homosexual weddings to hate groups and cults that want to kill the proprietor so you viewing this subject with any objectivity is in question. You have the group that has killed vs the one that has been the victim confused. A more appropriate question would be would you force a nazi organization to serve Jews or a "westboro" organization to serving homosexuals.

I agree that losing your bakery for refusing to bake a cake is ridiculous, but the price of being a bigot has always been steep.

 

Then we must make it against the law to refuse any service what so ever. That means I will have your support to walk into a muslim bakery and demand that they bake a cake that has a picture of me pissing in Mohammeds face. And yes that means they must provide the picture of Mohammed which would be very much against their beliefs.

Where you want to meet? lets go.

 

Ugh once again I am for gay marriage, or any marriage in which 2 consenting adults agree too as that is there life. I am only using examples, not actually trying to compare gay people to nasty groups so please dont take it that way.

With that said lets try this. Say I opened a sports apparel store that is open to the public, not a special club but only provided apparel and merchandise from my favorite teams such as the Raiders,Lakers, Dodgers and UCLA Bruins. Yes it is open to the public and you can buy whatever you want in there . But should I be shut down because a Chargers fan came in and got pissed off because I will not sell Chargers gear? Should he be able to sue me until I do? Or should he go to the other thousands upon thousands of sports shops that will provide him with the service and merchandise he is looking for?

 

No because he would be requesting an item that you do not sell to anyone. If you sold Lakers items only to whites but would sell the other items to anyone then you have a comparable situation.

If the cake topper would have been the sticking point for this transaction then I would have sided with the bakery.

 

Well if the cake was doing the decorating and such would they not be doing what is against their beliefs?

And what is the difference between me selling sports apparel, but it only for certain fans and a bakery catering to weddings, just not all types of weddings?

 

I am not sure what you mean here, if baking wedding cakes goes against their beliefs then it should have never been part of their business.

Because you are not denying the other fans from purchasing items, you just do not sell items they may want.

 

You only demonstrate your ignorance of public accommodation laws and how they are applied. It comes as no surprise why the bakery lost and the whiners still have no clue as to why. Funny ignorance at it's best

If it's against your religion to sell a cake, DON'T BE IN THE BAKERY BUSINESS PERIOD! End of story. /thread

 

Lol sorry I looked and I totally got words crossed, I got my dyslexia under control but sometimes it comes out to bite me haha.

What I meant was is if the BAKERY(lol) was doing the decorating would they not be decorating a cake that is against their beliefs?

And exactly, I do not provide items for everyone, but you can still buy whatever you want in my store. Now with that said if a bakery stated it only catered to certain types of weddings would that not be the same thing? If a gay baker said he would only provide cakes for gay weddings I wouldn't see that as a problem, because somebody somewhere will provide a cake for a straight wedding or any wedding.

Also a baker not making something you want is not against your right as a human being, nor does it stop you from being married, nor does it stop you from getting a cake elsewhere. Now if a cake was a requirement by law to get married then yeah I could see your point because if nobody will bake you a cake then you can't get married lol.

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Well then lets start going to muslim bakers and putting them out of business for not providing wedding cakes for gay marriage. When do we start?