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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course the Hamas bomber should be condemned. The issue here however, is a blood feud that has been going on for decades. One in which both sides have intentionally killed innocent children.
     
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    This is not just a blood feud, with things going on, on both sides. This is far and far more a 1 sided story about how one side is oppressing and ethnic cleansing, and making the biggest massacres.
     
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    Yes, we have had blood feuds here as well (ref: Hatfield and McCoy). If my own children were feuding over the treehouse, my first choice would be to dismantle the treehouse (nobody gets rewarded).
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Definitely "Asymmetric" and for sure in the "innocents killed" tally, Israel is by far the winner and an oppressor. The story is not totally one sided though.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe that is a very good idea that, if implemented would have solved the majority of the problem long ago. Israel should be very happy that others are not supporting the Palestinians in the same way the US supports Israel.
     
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    Since ones is able to prosper with the military and financial backing of a super power, while the other gets ethnically cleansed, a 100 fold more deaths, and oppressed into about the most poorest regions of the world,... than it's most definitely a one sided story.
     
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    Last time I checked the ratio of Children killed was something like 7-1.. so yes, it is somewhat one sided using those stats.

    This is not the only element in the conflict. When the midget hits the Giant one can expect the midget to get pummeled.

    That said, in this case it is not like the Giant is not provoking the midget at every opportunity.
     
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    I think your "provoking" does not "really" quiet capture themes like ethnic cleansing 100.000's of people, stealing all their property, still going through with such policies, and oppress them in among the most poorest regions on the planet.

    Those war crimes are a full 100% one sided thing.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There were some crimes on the other side as well. In general I agree with you that it was asymmetrical.
     
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    Yeah well. "some crimes". Putting it this way. The United States and South Africa regarded Nelson Mandela to be a terrorist for his roll of being the head of the armed resistance against racial oppression. And that is seen as a seriously major flaw in American perspective, not to mention South Africa deeply regrets it.

    And looking back to your "provoking" being some weird euphemism for full fledged war crimes supported by a steady majority of Israeli Jews over the last 60 years. Didn't really look like you were judging things in the right perspective at all.
     
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    what is it that the muslim scholars deny?
     
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    terror
     
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    Do you realize you make no sense? And if muslim scholars deny the existence of terrorism, they wont be of any help to do something about all the Islamic terrorism occurring around the world.

    [3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

    [59.2] He it is Who caused those who disbelieved of the followers of the Book to go forth from their homes at the first banishment you did not think that they would go forth, while they were certain that their fortresses would defend them against Allah; but Allah came to them whence they did not expect, and cast terror into their hearts; they demolished their houses with their own hands and the hands of the believers; therefore take a lesson, O you who have eyes!
     
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    They deny it's part of their religion.

    Total context:
    “(We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve) [3:151]. Said al-Suddi: “After Uhud, Abu Sufyan and the idolaters headed toward Mecca. But after they traversed a certain distance, they felt regret, saying: ‘Evil is that which we have done! We massacred them [Muslims] such that none of them remained except those who fled from the battlefield and then we left them alone. Go back and exterminate them’. But when they decided to do so, Allah, exalted is He, cast terror in their hearts which made them decide against what they had resolved to do. Allah, exalted is He, then revealed this verse.”

    3:151 in all it's full context is about Muslims receiving terror from Allah if they have the intent to massacre and cause terror.
    /facepalm

    That's how awful hate sites you visit work.
    They make you look like an absolute idiot,
    by raping everything out of context,
    even to the point that the opposite is true.
     

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