We saw the real Donald Trump last night

The Republican party has been separating for a while now. There is a growing number of people that want a small government. Those people are electing representation to DC.

 

These intelligent constituents of the Democrats, is that why they lose elections when the Urban turnout is low? The Democrat constituency is many small groups that have strange issue priority. There are idiots that support both parties which is why there are idiots elected in both parties.

 

Proof with a link please. And no conspiracy sites such as Koz, the DU or HuffPo...

 

LOL... Good luck with that request.

 

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/05/29/dick-cheneys-biggest-lie-333097.html

 

Whilst Trump and others insist the Bush lied, I still suspect that he was a hapless dupe exploited by his neocons, primarily Cheney and Rumsfeld, into the disastrous Iraq nation-building fiasco.

He was clearly part of the concerted campaign to conflate the al Queda attacks that occurred on his watch with the disparate matter of Saddam Hussein to fulfill the agendum of establishing a permanent US military presence in the region (the pattern being to remain wherever such incursions occur) but the Bush had no choice but to surrender toMaliki's demands in their SOFA and agree to the timetable for withdrawal that was scrupulously observed.

The Bush must, by now, either realize or strongly suspected that he was hoodwinked, but has not yet openly admitted it.

 

I agree with you on the hapless dupe exploited by his neo cons, only to an extent.

By the time they slipped the infamous "sixteen words" into the State of the Union speech in 2003, there was no one in the White House who didn't know that that claim was false. They had been told many many times.

 

Interesting opinion column.

Note the word opinion.

I could post a dozen opinion columns detailing why Hillary Clinton should go to the prison for her email corruption, or why Eric Holder needed protection from an Obama executive order to save his ass during the Fast & Furious scandal. And leftists here would pooh-pooh these links as mere speculation and opinion.

So, I pooh-pooh on your link that is clearly identified as an opinion piece. Try again?

 

Sloppy thinker, at best.

Liar at worst.

 

Alas, once again only an opinion...

 

From what I've seen, Trump has been spot on about 60% of the time (not good enough to be pres. but not all that bad, either). "Bush lied" is one of those things that Trump was absolutely right about and it would not have been right to let Bush's pipsqueak little brother get away with saying 43 didn't lie or that the Iraq invasion wasn't a huge mistake. And if Jeb doesn't want to acknowledge his brother's lies, he doesn't belong in this race.

 

Bush left him with a booming economy and he really blew it right? Lol

 

America uber alles.

 

Everybody, liberal, conservative, everybody, knows Bush lied about WMD's in Iraq as an excuse to invade. It's a fact. At least Trump is honest.

 

Proof with a link please. And no conspiracy sites such as Koz, the DU or HuffPo...

 

Here's the thing that doesn't make sense to me; Trump goes off on Jeb about his brother, that we were not safe because of 9/11 and that it was his brothers fault, he told Jeb there were no WMD's and his brother knew it, and yet, Trump is ahead in South Carolina? WTF? Shouldn't the Republican voters of South Carolina be condemning Trump for exposing this truth? Trump went and sold George, Jeb, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the whole war mongering Republican crew down the river, and the South Carolina Republicans still love him. Do the Republican voters operate by some double standard? I just don't get it? South Carolina Republicans make absolutely no sense at all. This is astonishing to me.

 

They make perfect sense. we hate fake politicians and corrupt government. This Bush love is a myth perpetuated by Fox and the RNC. I know a lot of conservatives and we pretty much think he is the worst president other than Obama. George Bush senior is not far behind.

we like real people... real conservatives. trump is killing it....Cruz is going to finish strong. I think Rubio's numbers are being inflated as I have not met a single conservative that supports him. He is looked at as a traitor and a big reason the Tea Party taken down. Everybody likes cruz for the most part and Trump is a populist Rock Star down here. All this talk of trump being unlikeable and women hating him is not what i am seeing. every conservative woman I know supports trump. Men are about a 50/50 split between cruz and trump but nobody hates either one they just prefer one to the other.

Nobody... and I mean nobody likes Bush. Most go out of their way to say they wont vote for him.

 

Sorry, but the Bush love is no myth. I've had more than my fair share of knock out drag outs on here with Republicans defending Bush through the years. And that is just a sample. Can you imagine if I had the chance to but heads with them all? I'd be typing into my next life.

 

Um.... your on a public forum that has paid establishment reps from both sides steering the narrative. people out there actually make a living doing this. look it up.

 

Trump confirms their bias and racism. That's enough for many of them.

 

I'm a hard core Bernie supporter! And if it ends up Trump vs. Hillary, I'm voting Trump, because I figure he'll be more progressive than Hillary and less beholden to the azzholz on Wall Street.

 

It really is.

 

Never understood this view that advocating for government licensing and regulation of homosexual relationships that have never been licensed and regulated before, is advocating for small government. Or the federal government mandating that all 50 states do so. Seems to be precisely the opposite. Expanding government into areas of life government has no business or legitimate purpose.

 

That's a fair assessment, but let me expound on what I mean.

Fed.gov, or even local or state governments, should not be involved in these issues. I take a very libertarian position that government should not dictate who can or cannot marry another. And if a church or a baker decides to never allow a gay person to cross their paths, that's their right too and the government has no business punishing them.

Leftists have been very successful in framing the national debate, with, of course, the cooperation of the mainstream media. Someone who abhors the path towards socialism the U.S. is taking with income redistribution, for example, might ignore this issue if they believe their "right" to an abortion or to gay marriage is threatened.

The repub establishment, unfortunately, encourages these debates as it drives religiously conservative people to support their party. But what gets left out of the debate is adherence to our constitutional principles...

 

I realize an old post fiz, but spot on as usual.

What's responsibility where it comes to the left?