Syrian Refugees Across The U.S. Are Condemning ISIS

Yeah, because I never said any such thing. You are quoting yourself, not I. Its a strawman. That's what you do here. Set them up so you can knock them down so you can further impress yourself about you.

That's not the only narrative you've been spewing in this thread.

Its not what you've been saying in this thread.

You successfully predicted that some Syrian refugees would tell of the horrors of ISIS. Everything else you claim to have proved, was proven only in your imagination. Such brilliance, the insight to know that war refugees would recount the horrors of war.

Yes, you are very easily impressed.

 

No he didn't. After they killed her Jewish husband, she converted to Islam before marrying Muhammad.

 

That's sweet, so if the Jews in some fantastic way manage to survive this war and.......maybe even win it - they become oppresors worst than Nazis yes ?

 

Since there is no such verse Im sure it refers to whatever you want it to.

 

"Because I look the way I do, and nobody knows what the hell I am, I've been asked every stupid question under the sun. Most people my entire life have felt certain enough that I was one of the following races, approached me, and asked me:
Why do Puerto Ricans ride around in cars at 15 people a clip?
Why do Sicilians have curly hair & dark skin?
Why did the black kid on the news last night steal a TV?
Why do Blacks love watermelon so much?"

Now, Sane, that is incredible. Do you live in the USA? "Most" people do not ask those questions. In fact, I have never heard even an overt racist ask those questions except in a movie or a TV drama..

Let's see the youtube urls list of massive demonstrations by Muslims against the IS that the media has refused to air. The Top Ten perhaps.

 

First: what you perceive as proven vs. what I perceive as proven are obviously two different things, and I doubt if you would ever be honest enough to admit defeat regarding this topic anyway even if the proof of it were staring you in the face, so that pretty much puts this in "moot point" land.

Second: Ah yes, the ole: "wouldn't you rather wrap yourself in the American flag" ploy that's supposed to make me look like a traitor or un-loyal to the country if I answer back with anything other than what you want me to say.

Nice try, ridiculous question, here's my answer.....

I served, that gives me the right to not only answer that ridiculous question anyway I see fit, but it also gives me the right to let you know that I'm on to you.

There are dozens if not hundreds of worthy causes that many down & out Americans could use, and all you guys (that are on the other side of this issue) ever do is exactly what you're trying to do here. You're trying to shame me into supporting a cause where (Americans & not Muslims) are concerned in order to shift the topic of the discussion, and try to make it about "choosing sides".

Well I'm not "choosing sides" here nor am I going to play this game. There's enough money in this country to take care of every homeless person, street alcoholic, starving family and down & out veteran in every state (and all of these refugees), and it could all be sorted out by the end of this month. (if we really wanted it to be)

The problem is most conservatives are too Godamn busy defending sociopaths that have enough money to buy the world ten times over, and "fighting for them" (more-so than the homeless & veterans) so that they can continue to screw the rest of us by hiding billions in off-shore accounts so that they don't have to pay taxes on it.

They're also defending & fighting to prevent these people (THAT WOULD SCREW THEM IN A HEARTBEAT) from paying their fair share of taxes.

Hell, just last week Ben & Jerry from the ice cream company said that they've been "begging" the government for years to take more in taxes from them, but that the government won't, so do me a favor, and take this dog whistle down the street to a lesser man who will fall for it.

You're not going to embarrass or shame me into answering a question that none of you are really concerned about until "others" come along that you don't like, because you sure as hell don't want for any of them to be helped out.

The irony here is that you'd probably much rather see billions of dollars being hidden so the greedy 1% could have more, than seeing "one" refugee eat a hot meal courtesy of Uncle Sam. (if I'm wrong I apologize but this is definitely the vibe I'm getting from you)

The same way conservatives don't give a rats @$$ about people without healthcare, they don't give a damn about the homeless or veterans either. Just like that P.O.S. Donald Trump that had the so-called fund raiser when he ran from Megyn Kelly like a little girl to go "pretend" to be raising money for veterans................well we all know that turned out now, now don't we.

Nobody's seen a plug nickel, and now Donald is fumbling trying to give everybody answers about it.

If you haven't been able to tell by now, yes, you struck a nerve with the "veteran question", and for good reason.

It flames me to ne end whenever these topics are "only" brought up when people are looking to try to either shame others or when it suits them, but they're "eerily silent" on these maters the other 364 days a year.

 

Nothing is "proven" yet and wont be for some time. But feel free to allow them room and board at your place.
Also, you have no idea where Trumps money goes. So don't even try to throw that out there as some jab at him.
And what sociopath have I defended?

 

Let's just hope there's time to get these refugees out before we turn into Europe.

 

LOL, too late.

 

I hope not. Unfortunately, we have the left adhering to the terrorists.

 

Yes he did. She became a muslim after the marriage and remained of course ethnically totally Jewish. And she being able to pass her possessions to her nephew who was Jewish. Hence it is not possible to claim he was out to kill Jews for being Jewish with such family ties.

The husband tried to kill Mohammed. So nothing odd there.

 

I've had the vetting conversations in here more times than I can count, and I've provided a ton of information on all the agencies that handle this stuff, and I'll be happy to provide you with it again in this post, but before I do that.......a few thoughts.......

Most of the people in the nine agencies that interrogate refugees, and do all of the background checks on these people are "not" newbie's or novice's to this line of work.

I have this impression of everybody freaking out because they all think that the people conducting these interrogations are community college level social workers that couldn't find Syria with a map, that are working from some stupid questionnaire template made by some other stupid government employee that's more concerned with picking up their kids from daycare then they are the safety of the country.

The people involved in this process are extremely well educated people, and most of them hold Masters degree's & PHD's in psychology, and they are highly trained in the art of cutting through BS & lies.

They speak several languages, and can speak fluently to the people they're questioning. They are familiar with the ME as they have spent long duty assignments there, and in general are far better equipped to do this than most people think.

They "are not" the same TSA agents you see at the airports in the ridiculous "unflattering" blue uniforms that all look like they were working at McDonalds just the week before.

These refugees are not going to be asked two or three questions, given a bunch of phone numbers to call, ushered out to a van waiting to drive them to residences set up around the corner from you, and then quietly forgotten about, falling off the governments radar, never to be seen or heard from again.

They are not going to walk through some BS scanner, be given their belongings back, and then turned loose on John-Q-Citizen....

These people are put up in dormitory-like facilities when they arrive on our shores, and they stay there for "months", some up to a "year or longer", and there's no way I can write in here what they go through because it would just take too much time, and the post would be pages in length.

Suffice it to say, they are put through the ringer 100 ways to Sunday, and then all over again in different directions, and the people conducting all of this are the same people & agencies that have been finding terrorist cells, and busting up terror plots in this country for years now.

One or two of these folks for multiple reasons got on television, and told the American public that they don't have the confidence it takes to properly vet these people, and that it's not full-proof.

That's all the Nay-Sayers needed to hear as they were "never" on board with any of this from the get-go, and sadly, those negative words from these government agents have been repeated a billion times by now, and have spread all over the country.

It's all anybody ever brings up or repeats as if "that alone" is 1000% proof that a proper vetting cannot be done, well I am here to tell you it can & it has.

One or two government officials or agents do not represent "the army of them" that conduct these background checks, and I have yet to see every single one of these people get on TV and all say that they have no faith in the vetting process.

When doctors pre-brief us about surgeries we're about to have, they always tell us about the things that may go wrong, why, to protect themselves against any possible malpractice suits in case something does go wrong.

Well these few agents that made those now famous statements about not having the confidence or not being so sure that they could prevent a possible terrorists from slipping through are no different.

Those individuals (for whatever reasons) were never going to give 100% assurances to this process, but that doesn't mean that they don't have a high success rate in the 99.9% percentile range. (in-fact they do)

Also you have to think about the politics behind those statements.

I usually don't succumb to conspiracy theories but I'm pretty darn sure one or all of them were instructed to say those things for political reasons. I say that because you can't be as successful as those people are, and then turn around and basically tell America that you suck at collecting Middle Eastern Intel or that you're "all of a sudden" lousy at doing your job.

My bottom line is this, the process for vetting these people is much more detailed & thorough than most people realize, and I have much more faith in these agencies than most Americans.

With all of that said, here is a link to how the process work's & who's involved, pleased read through it, and come back with an honest assessment afterwards.

http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/

Thanks.....................

 

What if? The Jews are backed up by a hyper power with free money and weapons, so they can ethnic cleanse and thieve the properties of an exceptionally poor community that they have been racially oppressing for 60 years that way. It's what them Jews want. It is what them Jews believe. After all it is their religion that their God justifies genocide to get hold on the land of Canaan.

 

There is such a verse of 9.29 to 9.128
How about you google "Verse. 29-128 refer to the events connected with the expedition to Tabuk"
and cure your ignorance all on your own? You're not paying me to teach, and this isn't a school.

 

I am truly sorry for the colleagues & friends you lost that day, seriously.

I have family members that helped out by using their 18 wheelers to evacuate the rubble.

I have many friends in the city that ran down there that day to try and help out in any way that they could.

I was stuck in Florida at the time, and as you know all the fights for the next two weeks were shut down, and I had no way of getting back up North.

I was on one of the first flights leaving Ft Lauderdale, and I headed straight for the city, straight for ground zero.

All these years later I can still smell the stench of it all in my memories, and see the image of the soot everywhere in my nightmares.

I "hate" the people that carried out those attacks, and I have no sympathy for them.

I was born & raised "here", and I served in the Marines many years ago during peace time.

So lets not even begin to try to have a whizzing contest on who's more loyal & who's not, shall we......?

I'm extremely loyal to this country, and I always have been.

You have every right to be upset, I get that, I really do.

You have every right to still be angry over it, I get that too.

But all of the kids born to these Syrian parents (that were kids themselves when it happened) weren't even born yet.

Do you realize that except for the Syrians in their late 40's now, they would have all been way too young to participate in that tragic event?

Do you realize that in-fact all of these refugees absolutely had no hand in 9/11?

Do you realize that all of the people in Newark, or Jersey City, or Bayonne, or Hoboken, or Patterson, or Elizabeth, or Rahway, or New Brunswick, or Metuchen, or Perth Amboy had no hand in 9/11.

So hold onto your anger as that is your right.

Grieve for the people you lost as I shall also grieve for them.

But at what point do we (as a country) realize that the people responsible for those horrible acts are all dead or locked up somewhere, and that all of these other people out here are not related to them, did not support them, had no hand in it, and were equally disturbed by it?

How about this guy that lost his life that day, did you run into him while you were helping out?

Salman Hamdani



He died sacrificing his life trying to get people out of those buildings.........................he was a Muslim.

I wonder how long our WWII vets held on to their hatred of the Japanese for Pearl Harbor.

 

And yet another fail..................

So I watched the video of the woman now living in Montana trying to get everyone to run for the hills because of he dirty Muslim rapist's that are all coming by giving overblown, erroneous numbers of rape accounts in Europe, and outright lying that the rape problem in Amarillo is solely due to, or heavily connected with the influx of refugees that have been placed there.

I searched all over the internet, and found the same thing I always find with these stories..............

None of this information is being reported by any "verifiable news outlet's", and all of it can only be found on Muslim hate sites that do nothing but produce erroneous stories about Muslims all over the country everyday.

I even found an online community forum in Texas where it was asked if this story was true by concerned Texans, and almost all of them wrote back that none of them heard about Muslim refugees raping anybody. The only thing they all did admit to was that the city's social services are being stretched & maxed out due to the influx of immigrants coming in. (that's believable)

Here's that forum: http://texags.com/forums/16/topics/2720499

Lastly, I researched all of the FBI & Texas crime data base's, and specifically looked for crimes by race, and look at what I found at the link below:

http://dps.texas.gov/administration/crime_records/pages/crimestatistics.htm

Offenders

In 2014, 19,821 offenders were involved in incidents of sexual assault. Of the offenders whose sex was known, 96 percent were male and 4 percent
were female. The age group showing the highest number of offenders was the 15-to-19 year-old bracket.

Of the offenders whose ethnicity was known, 44 percent were Hispanic and 56 percent were not Hispanic. Of the offenders whose race was known, 75 percent were White, 24 percent were Black, and 1 percent were American Indian/Alaskan Native.

Please show me where all the big bad Muslim men are in the above stats.................from Texas's own data base.

Then there was this that I found on how crime is actually "going down" in Amarillo.

http://amarillo.com/news/latest-news/2014-12-28/amarillo-crime-rate-drops

So what we have here, is a failure to communicate....................the truth.

This women in Montana obviously moved there, and is now riling folks up because she has the unfortunate luck of thinking she'd run to the "whitest place on earth" to get away from the brown folks, and look at what Karma did to her stupid @$$............now her new home has been slated as a place for refugees to come, and she's livid about it.

So she decides she going to use the unfortunate fact that because the place she left is inundated with rape, she'll of course pin that on the Muslims while the village idiots listening to her - take their pitchforks to city hall, and demand that their "fare city" not be blackened with the likes of such evil people.

You see..................."this" is the same damn reason why I don't believe half of the bull-chit that comes out of Europe regarding these same lame, "lie-ridden stories" because the same way we have bigots that just make chit up, Europeans do it as well, and stupid people fall for this chit.

Good delivery, nice pitch, no sale.................try the rummy down the street.

 

I've answered that question a thousand times in hundreds of threads, and most recently when I did it, I got tons of likes & private messages telling me it was sheer brilliance.

I'll give you the super short answer.

Number one, there is no great Jihad against the West being conducted by 2 billion Muslims.

Number two, the second we stop meddling in everybody's affairs over there, and leave them alone, the quicker radicals will turn their attention on each other, and leave us the hell alone.

I now leave you to go back to hiding under the covers while you wait for one of them to break into your house to kill you, while I plan another trip to Morocco later on this summer to go on an excursion in the Sahara in southern Morocco.

If you get over your fears of these people, and can muster up the courage, I'd love for you to come so I can show you just how wrong you are about these people, and we'd have a b*tching good time to boot.............

Try to let me know early though because as most Europeans are always on holiday, trying to get tickets much past June is next to impossible.

 

Please focus on the number "2".....................for a very long time.

Just when your head starts to hurt, and you haven't figured it out yet get back to me, and I promise my answer will make your headache go away.

Right after that, we'll have a conversation, about all the Pakistanis, and Iraqi's, and Afghanistan's that have been FORGING FAKE SYRIAN PASSPORTS FOR YEARS NOW!!!

Then we'll have a conversation about how all of the intelligence agencies involved in that investigation, all agreed that none of the people responsible for the attacks in Paris were "truly" Syrian's because all of the passports were fake.

Is that headache starting to come on yet, because if you can't wait for me, you might want to go get two advils now........

 

So, you're pretty much talking out of your ass, and oblivious to common sense.

They don't know the true identity of the terrorist with the forged Syrian passports, or his country of origin. So stop being dishonest.

Next, the fact remains that terrorist from ISIS, used the cover of Syrian refugees to get into Europe.
I guess it's easy to say, "Well it's only 2" when it's not your loved ones getting blowin to bits.

Just stop already, you're embarrassing yourself.

 

Sure they are.

Syrian refugees are raping European women across the European continent.

 

Ok, first, how about you throttle down a bit, and drop all the attitude. I wasn't being nasty with you, and as a matter of fact I was very congenial & apologetic in my response, so I'm not quite sure why you felt the need to be so hostile here but it's definitely unwarranted, and un-cool.

Next, I didn't set any straw men up, and I have no idea what the hell your talking about. I've been very clear in my position in this thread, and if you go back to the very first post, and read most of my responses to people, you'll see that it hasn't changed.

My "simple" position throughout the thread is that: "I think it's a good idea that Syrian refugees that are here now, that went through hell back home, are sharing their stories. Why, because I happen to think that in sharing those stories, they will go along way in helping to de-escalate some of the anger that some Muslims here feel, and quite possibly show them just how bad of an idea it would be to join a band of lunatics like ISIS."

Now, I've said that very same thing, in several replies to many people, on several pages in this thread, and if you took a few minutes to breeze through these pages you could easily see it for yourself. So once again, I have no idea what you're talking about through most of this "angry post" of yours.

I'm not trying to be anybody's hero here, or puff up my chest, or pat myself on the back, and yes, it is true that anybody looking at this situation with an open mind using their common sense would draw the same conclusions. (so that makes me not that special or clairvoyant at all)

So why you felt the need to slam & attack me over those thoughts are beyond me, and I'm confused as to why this topic has ruffled your feathers as much as it seems they obviously have, as evidenced by "this" post of yours.

So in conclusion, for the hundredth time here (which I've also repeated throughout this thread many times) I was 100% joking about the "being right all the time" bit, and if that's the thing that's got you so torqued up, you can relax now as I was never serious about that.

If your bothered over the fact that these people are here, I can't help you with that either as I'm not the one that let them in.

If your bothered over the fact that I was right about what they would say & do once they got here, once again I can't help you with that.

If your bothered of the possibility that they will show other Muslims just how stupid of an idea it would be to join groups like ISIS, I can't help you with that either.

So my advice for you, would be to just calm the hell down altogether, and not let all of this rev you up so much because by now, it's all pretty much a done deal.

So instead of sending me another "anger-filled post" like this one, why don't you take it out on the bag down at the local gym first, this way you don't look like such an "meany" in here.

And with that................have great night champ.

 

Ddyad, I always tell the truth because it's way too difficult to keep up with lies, and they always burn you in the end.

So in the spirit of being fair & honest all of those instances were things that were asked of me mostly when I was growing up, and not so much these days. But I still do get asked stupid @$$ questions these days from time to time pertaining to some of the same things I listed. Why do these people do this or act like that, and it's always annoying.

In my old age I just look at them now, and say, "do I look like the spokesperson for fill-in-the-blank, how the hell should I know", and I walk away shaking my head letting them know that they just made an @$$ of themselves.

I live in CT now but I grew up in-between NY & NJ (mostly Jersey). I was a small kid in the late 60's, and a teenager in the 70's so that was my era, and yes, there were a lot of people asking stupid questions all the time.

I don't know how old you are or where you grew up but once again I have no reason to lie, and I didn't.

"Massive demonstrations" from Muslims against terrorist's groups that the MSM doesn't show........that's not what I said at all, or meant to infer.

I said this:

Firstly, there's a whole hell of a lot more than just "some" Muslims speaking out against terrorism, but our wonderful media does a horrible job of chasing those stories down & broadcasting them.

Muslims in front of cameras saying things that fly in the face of all the lies that are perpetuated about them doesn't really make for good copy, and some small, local stations have even been threatened whenever they did run pieces showing Muslims speaking out against terrorism.

I have no less than a hundred or more videos in my YouTube video history library of Muslims doing exactly that, and I could drown you in videos of these people speaking out.

I could drown you in internet links of Muslims speaking out against terrorism, and I could bore you to tears by talking to you on the phone for hours recounting dozens of stories of conversations with Muslims that did nothing but defend themselves & their religion at work, and all places outside of their home everyday.

This is why I asked you to watch this video, and why it was so important because he basically says what I'm trying to say now but he says it much better than me. (and you really have to watch the entire video or you just won't get it)

[video=youtube;b6xxrKKKRPM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6xxrKKKRPM[/video]

I do have these to show you however:

[video=youtube;MK0poS4LX7M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK0poS4LX7M[/video]

[video=youtube;Of7IufJ84_k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of7IufJ84_k[/video]

[video=youtube;oACLwF0Qn3k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oACLwF0Qn3k[/video]

[video=youtube;p9Zuza3IB84]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Zuza3IB84[/video]

[video=youtube;HjYuVqq6UcQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjYuVqq6UcQ[/video]

You could watch these, and say to yourself, ok now I'm satisfied. Sundance, and others like him would watch it and say, they're all liars, it's all staged, and it's a Muslim propaganda film probably paid for by ISIS.

There's no winning here for these people Ddyad......................... ...none.

If your going to be like everybody else, and tell me how insignificant it is or how meaningless it is.......then I'm afraid we've reached an impasse, and I'm all out of gas here.

 

No, you've done a much better job of embarrassing yourself here enough for every member in this forum with your denial to the fact that every intelligence agent & agency practically in the world, including Interpol officials, the FBI, the CIA, and every other law enforcement agency everywhere has confirmed that none of the Paris attackers were of Syrian decent, heritage, ancestry, whatever you want to call it.

Read this Einstein...........
http://anonhq.com/paris-attackers-not-refugees/

Next, "nobody" in the story I shared on the first page of this thread is a terrorist...................not one of them, so what exactly is your point here?

Oh wait, let me guess, they could turn into terrorist's later on, their kids could become terrorist years from now, they're Muslims so it's in their DNA to eventually become terrorists someday?

Let me ask you a serious question, at what point in your pathetic little life will you ever get it through that thick Texan skull of yours that not everybody, that doesn't look like you, is necessarily a killer?

When will you ever just think for yourself, and get off the "moronic" bandwagon of: "it only takes one"?

When will you "stop" being one of the "ignorant little boys" and start being the full grown man you should be that can think for himself, and draw his own conclusions based on your experiences in life, and "not" what some foul, "full of lies" conservative web site feeds you to validate your hatred of people you know nothing about?

In short, when will you ever grow up, and realize that all the boogeymen you think exists are only phantoms in your head?

Have you ever left the four blocks you grew up on, because your rhetoric sure as hell doesn't sound like it.

Your dismissed, you can go back to playing in traffic now............

 

Once again you are lying.

The passport has been identified as a forgery. The true identity of the bomber has not been discovered. So, once again you are talking out of your ass.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...the-paris-attacks-what-we-know-and-dont-know/
ISIS used refugees to send their jihadist operatives to Europe.

So what does common sense say??
Don't worry I don't expect you to comprehend this simple point.

THERE IS A INHERENT RISK WHEN IT COMES TO TAKING IN REFUGEES FROM WARTORN SYRIA. TWO ISIS OPERATIVES INFITRATED FROM SYRIA.

Was that spelled out simple enough for you, or should I get some glue, crayons, construction paper, and macaroni? You know in hopes that I can't draw you a picture.

 

I actually petitioned last year for someone from Syria to be brought here but it wasn't approved because of a bunch of red tape issues, so that individual got himself out of Syria, and is now living in Germany talking German language course's by day, and going to a trade school at night, and is adjusting quite well thanks......

He's made a lot of friends, only speaks in German to fit in, and tells my often how most of the stories we get about hundreds or thousand of women being raped, and rampant crime everywhere are extremely, blown out of proportion exaggerations, and mind you before you tell me: "well of course he's going to say that" - you should know that all of my military buddies that stayed in Germany after their tours were up back in the 80's all pretty much tell me the same thing.

Awe, what's the mater cuddles, are you all upset because the "Great White Hope" that was sent from heaven to save conservatives from the Evil, Kenyan Muslim is being found out to be the scumbag that he really is.................?

Read these, and go bark at somebody else, I didn't make this up, I'm just reporting on it.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/01/28...-all-donations-to-trumps-personal-foundation/

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/28/trump-busted-money-fundraiser-foundation-veterans-groups.html

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trum...ey-for-vets-sends-funds-to-trumps-foundation/

Maybe none of them, but if you're really concerned about raising money for veterans or getting homeless people off the streets, then how about you go ask the people in this country that have billions stashed all over the world that they absolutely don't need, that could fix almost every problem in the world with their f*cking lunch money?

These people are sick, and it's been scientifically proven & well documented that most ubber, super wealthy people are actually sociopaths with deep rooted social problems which leads them to behave as bizarrely as they do.

Read, and educate yourself on the subject:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-wealth-reduces-compassion/

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2013/10/01/3859819.htm

http://www.gobankingrates.com/personal-finance/7-reasons-rich-people-psychopaths/

Only a sick person would constantly feel the need to "quadruple" his or her wealth at the expense of others when the stores of cash they currently have could last them & their extended families for hundreds of lifetimes.

Are we all done here, or do you have any more questions for me that I can help you out on?