Syrian Refugees Across The U.S. Are Condemning ISIS

This is from "your" site that you provided for me....................

THE PASSPORT IS FAKE: Authorities in multiple countries are pretty certain that the passport, found near the body of an unidentified attacker who died during his suicide assault of France's national soccer stadium, is fake. It carried the name of "Ahmad Almohammad," a 25-year-old Syrian. French officials have indicated that Almohammad was a loyalist soldier in the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and died a few months ago.

On Tuesday, Serbian police arrested another man at a refugee camp carrying a passport with the exact same details. It's not clear at all if he has any connection to the case, other than having used the same shadowy process of obtaining a forged Syrian passport. There is a great deal of precedent for migrants pretending to be Syrians to gain safer passage and sanctuary in Europe.

Thomas de Maiziere, Germany's interior minister, suggested on Tuesday that the fake passport found at the bombing site could have been part of an Islamic State attempt to create a "false trail."


Now I understand that you probably rode that damn short bus from kindergarten all the way up through high school, and took a lot of flack for it, but really dude, have some shame here.

Your link "corroborates" mine.......................do you understand that?

The Syrian passport was a fake, and the guy they found it on was not a true Syrian........

How many more languages do you need me to say that in?

I would make a video in sign language, and send it to you, but something tells me that there aren't enough brain cells rattling around up there that would grasp the concept.

The name on the passport was of a Syrian that had died.....................MONTHS BEFORE THE ATTACKS IN PARIS!!!!!

Let this go now, and we'll forget the entire sorted affair.................you've lost................please stay down...............please don't get back up.

 

You keep running your mouth about the suicide bomber isn't Syrian. No it'll service has identified his true identity, or country of origin.

You are talking out of your ass. It's that simple.

 

That's the problem in your plan, Jews didnt read the Quran to know they are supposed to be subjects to Muslims to get a "fair" treatment, they went for indipendance, maybe your book is part of the reason Arab Muslims couldnt handle that thought and declared war on Israel, in any case, if it wasnt for Arab stupidity we would have needed a visa to visit the west wall so perhaps it is God's work and your book does serve a pupose after all.

 

You answered the question with false information.

There has been a jihad publically declared against the west on live TV numerous times in the name of Islam.

Now I ask you again, when will the muslims stop this Jihad? I realize they don't differentiate between civilians and soldiers, which they claim publically, which is why we have no sympathy for them.

 

So much fun. You "report". LOL
For what fish wrapper do you work for? And what people do with their money they earned is their business. If the government wasn't so thirsty to get their hands on it, they wouldn't have to hide it.
And I can garrantee I have given more to vets than you will ever dream of.

 

Soldier.......your starting to worry me here a little bit as this isn't like you.

We both know that there is a "stark" difference between radicalized extremists that plot bombings & raid villages where they pillage, loot, and kill all the males, and then run off with all the women of age that they can either have sex with or sell as prostitutes - and everyday citizens that live more or less just like you & I.

The number of people that live more or less just like you & I outnumber these maniacs literally more than a billion to one. To be sure there are a lot of them, but their numbers don't represent the entire Muslim population all over the world.

So by you constantly asking "when is the great Muslim jihad against the west going to end" is a disingenuous question on steroids, and is extremely intellectually dishonest.

It would be the equivalent to asking "when will all black people finally disband & disavow the BLM movement"................all black people are not involved in the BLM movement, and most of them have no idea what the hell it is, who it's founders are, or what they're about.

So what your doing here is what most of the people in here do, and I'm really surprised to see this coming from you. You're lumping 1.7 billion people in with a few million, and your asking when all of them will end their great jihad against the west.

Even that question is intellectually dishonest because, A: your asking an individual that couldn't possibly have an answer for you and you know it so shame on you, and B: these terrorist organizations are not just ticked off at the west. They hate everybody that isn't a radicalized lunatic with demented, delusional dreams of killing every human in the world until only extremists like them are left. (including Muslims which is who they kill the most)

So dude, really, where the hell are you going with these "simple-minded" questions that aren't like you to ask. I would expect these from Sundance or some other Muslim-hating fool in here but not you.

Look, I totally get that these are not your favorite people, and that your extremely tired of the violence, killings, bombings, and that you don't want any of that or them here, well neither do I.

I hate these people more than you, and more than anybody else in here save for maybe the few that have actually lost loved ones to these maniacs, but I'm not advocating to bring terrorist's into the country, and I never have.

I've only always advocated that, A: it's wrong to turn our backs on refugees that we promised to help while the rest of the world takes on that burden, and B: it's actually smart to take in some because of what they can bring to the table.

That's what this entire thread was meant to be, a discussion on how Muslims from war torn areas coming here with horror stories to share with Muslims that are here can be a good thing because it can act as a good deterrent to those who might be possibly thinking about joining groups like ISIS.

And once again it's gone down the rabbit hole of (the same ole usual suspects) writing in to remind all of us how much they hate Muslims, and mentally place them all under the same umbrella.

You can do better than this................try again.....

 

LOL @ believing anything Syrian refugees supposedly say.

 

You can make excuses to the moon and back.

The notion was proven with the Belgium muslim attacks.

They hid the terrorist. They refused to turn him in.

Your refusal to admit this is not worrisome to me. It proves my point.

 

Actually, that would "literally" mean that there is only 1.6 radicalized extremists among the 1.6 billion muslims in the world. You believe what you do, because you soooooo desperately want to believe

 

Just show me a few massive demonstrations of Muslims demonstrating in Dearborn and Newark against the IS and you will convince me. The 60s is ancient history very few Americans are now at all inclined to utter racist slurs now. Beyond that the "15 Puerto Ricans/car" slur is just too fantastic to be true - unless they were GOP presidential candidates.

Victimhood tales in America have become far too common - many have been debunked. Since you are old enough to be a boomer - or worse. I will give you the benefit of the doubt. It is pretty clear you have not concocted all of this to get into an ivy college or to sell a story to Rolling Stone.

OTOH, if there are any ambitious minority ivy wannabes on this forum they could not do better than use some of your very well crafted posts as a model for their application essays.

 

I'm not making any excuses for anybody, and we both know it. You & I have had many conversations where I have admitted a million times that terrorist's are all scum, and that yes they would try just about anything to kill the people they hate, which yes includes us.

Once again I have laid out a well thought out, respectful post with lots of substance the way I do for most people in here, and you come back with this lame reply of: "your wrong, you lie, your in denial, you're making excuses" type of reply that I have come to expect from certain people in here that can't get past: "I hate all of these people, and my mind is really closed to anything anybody has to say on the subject".

You mentioned many times how you absolutely don't hate all of these people, and that you realize this, that, and the other about them - but like everybody else, when the rubber hits the road & you are faced with positive story, after positive story, you do what most others in here do - you show your true colors by ignoring any & all of the positive-ness & instead elect to slam all of them, and cherry pick whatever minutes details you can about how it's irrelevant, means nothing, and solves nothing.

All you want to do is continually hammer on about how there's absolutely no way to be sure of anything when it comes to these people based on events & circumstances that have happened thousands of miles away from these shores as proof that - that's why it would be such a bad idea to let any of these people come here.

Let's leave it here, as I have completely given on being the only adult in the room trying to show the scared children that the boogeyman they're all afraid of isn't that scary after all - you feel the way you do, cool, I can't change that.

You spend the rest of your days walking around looking over your shoulder being paranoid every time you see a girl in a mall, or a restaurant, or an airport wearing a hijab, and I'll continue to smile at her, nod hello, and keep going about my business completely convinced that she means me no more harm than the paint on the walls.

You continue to make your case as to the reasons why you think we should continually block people that have lived here for 400 years that have a track record of killing "millions less" than every other group of people here. (that none of you seem to fear)

Where is all your outrage & paranoia towards all of the white serial killers this country has had to put up with over the last few hundred years that have left dead bodies buried in the back yards & basements of homes all over this country?

Where is all your rage & paranoia towards all of the Hispanics, Blacks, and White people of various nationalities that have killed "millions" of people in this country?

You seem to like numbers so here's some numbers for you.....in the 400 years that Muslims have walked the soil of this country, approximately 4000 people have died at the hands of an Arab/Muslim.

Roughly 3000 of those poor souls died by the 9/11 attackers (in that one incident) and the other roughly 1000 people have been killed over a time period of roughly 400 years. These are "facts", not conjecture or excuses.

How many people have Blacks, Hispanics, & Whites of various nationalities killed in that time frame. (how many people have been killed in Chicago alone in just the last two summers by non-Muslims)

How many restaurants, buildings, cars & homes have Italians blown the f*ck up that we glorify in movies where dozens of innocents have been killed with all of their La Cosa Nostra bull-chit?

Soldier, please do me a favor, seriously.

Go enroll yourself in some US history courses down at your local community college, and get back to me when your done, in the meantime erase that yellow streak that's running up your backside, and "stop" being afraid of your own shadow. (it's really unbecoming of somebody who once served)

Looks like our trip to Morocco together later on this summer is out huh, pity, you would have had a blast.........

 

I have numbers, facts, figures, and stats from multiple law enforcement agencies from all over the world on my side Dixon, that's all.

I have the same stuff that's available to anybody if they seek it out.

I don't want to believe anything desperately.

Here's what I know for a fact........

100% of all the people I talked about that shared their horror stories in the story that sparked this thread - are not terrorists.

These people have literally lost everything, including family members to the monsters back in Syria that call themselves ISIS.

I know for a fact that these people are grateful to be here, will not betray this country by becoming radicalized later on, and will share their horror stories with other Muslims in the communities where thy have been sent to live.

I also know for a fact that as young, impressionable, possibly angry Muslims that may be considering joining these monsters that call themselves ISIS - would be persuaded not to if they were to read or hear the stories I posted in the first post of this thread.

I am as sure of all of these things, as I am of the sun coming up tomorrow.

I've said this before, and I will say it again, I don't know you Dixon, but I swear I don't want anything bad to happen to you or anyone you know, and I'm confident that you have nothing to worry about from these few Syrian families that were allowed into this country.

Now, if you still feel the need to ridicule or insult me, please, be my guest, but their is something none of your rude, mean words will never be able to do............and that's take away my faith.

 

No you don't. Your claim that the regular muslims "outnumber these maniacs literally more than a billion to one" is pure fantasy of your creation. There are only 1.6 billion muslims in the world AND there are more than 1.6 Islamic extremist in the wolrld. Delusions or you just not very good at math?

 

No, I'm sorry Ddyad but I've been down this road before, and I have to admit that I'm really saddened to see myself going down it again with you as I really thought you were different.

First, your insistence that I'm making up the few things I told you (regarding the racist questions) is starting to get under my skin a little. I'm not sure what bubble you grew up in in Which "Brady Bunch" neighborhood, or "Little House on the Prairie" section of the country you're from, but here in the northeast, life is and can be pretty brutal, cold, tough & mean (especially when I was a kid back in the 70's) and these streets are no joke.

I could share stories with you that would make you feel the need to see a shrink afterwards if you think those few little things sounded disturbing. So please do me a favor stop questioning the relevance or validity of them (as it's starting to really become insulting) and please take my word that I shared the "soft stuff" with you, and that none of it was "a stretch" or lies.

If you'd like to know about the hard stuff, then let me know, and I'll send you a private message that will no doubt leave you with a box of Kleenex for the night.

Secondly, you asked to see videos or demonstrations of thousands or hundreds of Muslims marching or protesting in the streets, ok I gave that to you.

I presented you with Muslims speaking out, and showing their displeasure & non-support of these groups, and it's not good enough for you because you want to see that here at home. I explained to you in great length & detail why you wouldn't see those types of mass demonstrations here, and you've been eerily silent about it ever since.

You want to know why you don't see mass demonstrations here Ddyad, because of bull-chit like this........

Please do me a favor, and pay close attention to what's being said in time stamps: 0:12 & 1:27 (please watch the entire video, but pay close attention to what is being said in those two time stamps)

[video=youtube;BBPEWYPkP5M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBPEWYPkP5M[/video]

I presented you with videos of religious leaders here at home speaking to packed Mosques, filled with Muslims, and none of that's good enough for you, it never is with you guys.

I know this game, you ask for stuff, I present it, and all of it is refuted, and you want more, but the dirty little secret is that no matter what I present to you, none of it will ever be enough.

The simple analogy would be:........you ask me to give you a burger, and you'll be happy so I get you a burger, but then you tell me you need cheese to be happy so I get you cheese, then you tell me you need ketchup to be happy so I get you ketchup, then you tell me your need pickles to be happy so I get you pickles, but I'm the idiot that doesn't realize this will never end, and you'll never be happy.

So I'll tell you what, respectfully & politely, believe what you will, and what you have to - to make yourself sleep better at night.

If your 100% convinced that all of these people are horrible, and that none of them have any redeeming qualities, or that none of them can be trusted, or that there's no way we could properly ever vet refugees coming in, or that secretly, privately most Muslims here root for terrorist's than I'm at a loss over what to say or how to ever convince you otherwise.

I have to tell you I'm really disappointed here because I thought you were above this, and had a much more open mind. I'm sorry now to say that I just don't see it as evidenced by your refusal to acknowledge anything I have presented you with thus-far.

Be well dDyad, hopefully one day in the future you'll realize that most of your concerns & fears over this aren't as bad as you believe them to be.

 

Ok, I'm tired of trying to be nice about this as your just determined to a f*cking ass................so here we go.......

Here's some light reading for you Numb-Nuts.....

1. Non-Muslims make up the majority of terrorists in the United States: According to the FBI, 94% of terrorist attacks carried out in the United States from 1980 to 2005 have been by non-Muslims. This means that an American terrorist suspect is over nine times more likely to be a non-Muslim than a Muslim. According to this same report, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism in the United States than Islamic, yet when was the last time we heard about the threat of Jewish terrorism in the media? For the same exact reasons that we cannot blame the entire religion of Judaism or Christianity for the violent actions of those carrying out crimes under the names of these religions, we have absolutely no justifiable grounds to blame Muslims for terrorism.

2. Non-Muslims make up the majority of terrorists in Europe: There have been over one thousand terrorist attacks in Europe in the past five years. Take a guess at what percent of those terrorists were Muslim. Wrong, now guess again. It’s less than 2%.

3. Even if all terrorist attacks were carried out by Muslims, you still could not associate terrorism with Islam: There have been 140,000 terror attacks committed worldwide since 1970. Even if Muslims carried out all of these attacks (which is an absurd assumption given the fact mentioned in my first point), those terrorists would represent less than 0.00009 percent of all Muslims. To put things into perspective, this means that you are more likely to be struck by lightening in your lifetime than a Muslim is likely to commit a terrorist attack during that same timespan.

4. If all Muslims are terrorists, then all Muslims are peacemakers: The same statistical assumptions being used to falsely portray Muslims as violent people can be used more accurately to portray Muslims as peaceful people. If all Muslims are terrorists because a single digit percentage of terrorists happen to be Muslim, then all Muslims are peacemakers because 5 out of the past 12 Nobel Peace Prize winners (42 percent) have been Muslims.

5. If you are scared of Muslims then you should also be scared of household furniture and toddlers: A study carried out by the University of North Carolina showed that less than 0.0002% of Americans killed since 9/11 were killed by Muslims. (Ironically, this study was done in Chapel Hill: the same place where a Caucasian non-Muslim killed three innocent Muslims as the mainstream media brushed this terrorist attack off as a parking dispute). Based on these numbers, and those of the Consumer Product Safety Commission, the average American is more likely to be crushed to death by their couch or television than they are to be killed by a Muslim. As a matter of fact, Americans were more likely to be killed by a toddler in 2013 than they were by a so-called “Muslim terrorist”.

6. When a drunk driver causes a car accident, we never blame the car manufacturer for the violent actions of that driver. This is because we understand that we cannot blame an entire car company that produces millions of safe vehicles just because one of their cars was hijacked by a reckless person who used it to cause harm. So what right do we have to blame an entire religion of over 1.6 Billion peaceful people because of the actions of a relatively insignificant few?

Muslim attitudes towards terrorism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_attitudes_towards_terrorism

Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks in America
http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-mu...0-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

Europol Report: All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that Aren’t
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

White Americans Are The Biggest Terror Threat In The United States
http://www.mintpressnews.com/white-...st-terror-threat-in-the-united-states/211608/

Less Than 2 Percent Of Terrorist Attacks In The E.U. Are Religiously Motivated
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/01/08/3609796/islamist-terrorism-europe/

Data Show Links Between Fear of Terrorist Attacks, Anti-Muslim Bias
Hate crimes against Muslims are up this year, despite a general trend downward for all such crimes.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/da...en-fear-of-terrorist-attacks-anti-muslim-bias

Now do me a favor, and GO GENT BENT!!!!!!

 

The 60s seems to have become the 70s. I told you I could imagine it happening in the 60s - except for the 15 Puerto Ricans in every car thing. The rest of your post is frankly unresponsive and a bit silly. You seem to be hate obsessed, and politically correct cliches are no substitute for rational arguments and facts.

Just provide the urls proving that massive Muslim demonstrations against the IS have taken place in the US. Lets call 5000 demonstrators "massive". Is that too high a bar? I really want to see your evidence. You should avoid the ad hominem that is creeping into your posts - it bites you back.

Do you assume that I am actively opposed to letting these refugees in?

 

That was a long cut and paste to have not included at least one sentence to support your silly assertion. I suspect that was by your design. Always running away from the debate when challenged. You are at least consistent.

 

They read the Torah that supports the idea that their God supports even genocide to thieve the land of Canaan / Israel.

 

I don't know why the west should shoulder such uncertainties,
there are a lot of rich countries there in the middle east which could accommodate them,
are these middle eastern countries also fearful enough and not so complacent with such a statement?

 

Sane Leftist, the reason that the world is having such a huge problem with Muslim rapists is because their role model himself (Muhamed) approved of rape of captives and rate of slaves, so rape of infidels that are "asking for it" by going against Muhamed's dress code aren't that terribly far off from Mohamed's example. Not all Muslims are rapists, but their prophet was.