Iran mocks WWII Holocaust, prepares another

"I question just how much of the death was inflicted intentionally by the Nazi regime and how much of it was due to starvation, exposure, and disease."

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=456911&page=27&p=1066252546#post1066252546

 

There is no denial of anything in that quote, merely a question. Hence you are lying.

So, why are you lying?

Is it because you don't care about the truth?

Is it because you're being paid to post here?

What's the scoop?

 

Your nonsense is no more relevant or factual than The Man in the High Castle, alternative history is not history.

 

Do you guys believe in the original holocaust of 64,000,000 Jewish children as well, where they were wrapped in scrolls and burnt to death?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betar_(fortress)

Betar was the last standing Jewish fortress in the Bar Kochba revolt of the 2nd century AD, destroyed by the Roman army on Tisha B'av.

The site of historic Betar (also spelled Beitar or Bethar), next to the modern Palestinian village of Battir southwest of Jerusalem, was known as Khirbet al-Yahudi, Arabic for "the Jew's ruins".

The destruction of Betar put an end to the last great revolt against Rome, and effectively quashed any Jewish dreams of freedom. Accounts of the event in Talmudic and Midrashic writings thus reflect and amplify its importance in the Jewish psyche and oral tradition in the subsequent period. The best known is from the Babylonian Talmud, Gittin 57a-b:


Gittin 58a of the Babylonian Talmud:

"There were four hundred synagogues in the city of Bethar, and in every one were four hundred teachers of children, and each one had under him four hundred pupils, and when the enemy entered there they pierced them with their staves, and when the enemy prevailed and captured them, they wrapped them in their scrolls and burnt them with fire."


400 synagogues x 400 teachers/synagogue x 400 pupils/teacher = 64,000,000 children

 

You deny that there was a plan to systematically exterminate the Jews of Europe.

You deny the method in which these Jews were to be killed.

And you deny the number which were systematically exterminated.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/revision-or-denial/


"I question just how much of the death was inflicted intentionally" -- The Plan/The Number

"by the Nazi regime and how much of it was due to starvation, exposure, and disease." -- The Method/The Number

You are a holocaust denier.

 

But they weren't completely destroyed.

You only need to peruse this thread to find their heirs (herrs) are very much alive.

 

Good thing you're not the arbiter of what is and is not "relevant" on this forum.

Questioning is not denying.

So you are a liar.

But I already knew that.

What I don't know, and what you refuse to address, is how you were able to get unbanned.

What are you hiding?

 

It's not relevant or based in fact, alternative history is not history, it is fiction that can not be proven.

Just asking questions is a way of attempting to make wild accusations acceptable (and hopefully not legally actionable) by framing them as questions rather than statements. It shifts the burden of proof to one's opponent -- rather than laboriously having to prove that all politicians are reptoid scum, one can pull out one single odd piece of evidence and force the opponent to explain why the evidence is wrong.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions

Were 5-6 million Jews systematically exterminated by the Nazi regime for being Jewish, yes or no?

 

Were 64,000,000 Jewish children burnt to death? Yes or no?

 

As much as it must pain you to hear this, people can decide for themselves if it's relevant.

Questioning is not denying, no matter how much you claim it is.

So you are a liar.

And you are also a very suspicious character, since you refuse to explain how you were unbanned after a yearlong hiatus from the forum.

 

Irrelevant nonsense, the Talmud is not a history book, I don't believe that the earth was created in 6 days or is only 10 thousand years old either.

 

You might be able to ooze your way past other posters, Mr. Face, but not this one.

I have an impeccable memory and I remember quite distinctly that you were banned some time ago, probably because you were constantly insulting other posters, to say nothing of your incredibly disingenuous debating tactics.

That you've suddenly reemerged with no explanation as to why or how seems quite strange.

Care to address the elephant in the room?

 

Your claims are irrelevant because they are not falsifiable, they can neither be proven nor dis-proven.

Were 5-6 million Jews systematically exterminated by the Nazi regime for being Jewish, yes or no?

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It obviously wasn't a perma-ban genius.

 

Good thing you don't get to decide what is relevant and what is not, otherwise I might have a problem here.

I don't really know, hence the questioning.

But for some reason, you feel the need to lie about what I said.

Why is that?

So what kind of ban was it?

 

64 million????????

wtf are u talking about?

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do you also question if water is wet?

go to Nizkor.org. all the info about the Holocaust is there

 

Yes yes you are just asking questions despite the overwhelming mountain of evidence that between 5 and 6 million Jews were systematically exterminated by the Nazi regime for being Jewish. Again this is a classic holocaust denial tactic which allows them to make spurious claims without having to back them up while shifting the burden of evidence to the opposition. You're not fooling anyone.

None of your (*)(*)(*)(*)ing business.

 

LOL! you must be a holocaust denying Nazi.

The original holocaust story that was posted.

Here it is again fro you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betar_(fortress)

Betar was the last standing Jewish fortress in the Bar Kochba revolt of the 2nd century AD, destroyed by the Roman army on Tisha B'av.

The site of historic Betar (also spelled Beitar or Bethar), next to the modern Palestinian village of Battir southwest of Jerusalem, was known as Khirbet al-Yahudi, Arabic for "the Jew's ruins".

The destruction of Betar put an end to the last great revolt against Rome, and effectively quashed any Jewish dreams of freedom. Accounts of the event in Talmudic and Midrashic writings thus reflect and amplify its importance in the Jewish psyche and oral tradition in the subsequent period. The best known is from the Babylonian Talmud, Gittin 57a-b:


Gittin 58a of the Babylonian Talmud:

"There were four hundred synagogues in the city of Bethar, and in every one were four hundred teachers of children, and each one had under him four hundred pupils, and when the enemy entered there they pierced them with their staves, and when the enemy prevailed and captured them, they wrapped them in their scrolls and burnt them with fire."


400 synagogues x 400 teachers/synagogue x 400 pupils/teacher = 64,000,000 children

I even did the math for you

 

No, I don't.

But if I did question if water was wet, I would probably receive much less invective and indignant mewling than when I question, even to the slightest degree, the prevailing narratives concerning the Holocaust.

Which proves to me that it has become more like a religious dogma than a historical account subject to academic inquiry.

I try not to arrive at a definitive conclusion about something until I've read and heard a wide array of differing perspectives.

Crazy, right?

 

It's a classic holocaust denier tactic, allowing them to post bull(*)(*)(*)(*) without having to back it up with evidence while shifting the burden of proof to the opposition, all under the guise of "I'm just asking questions," the same tactic can be seen all over the internet from various conspiracy theory nutjobs. It's called JAQing off:

JAQing off

The JREF forums call it "JAQing off." "Marquis de Carabas" coined the acronymous term[4] after they had dealt with one too many 9/11 truthers,[5] with this later description by "VespaGuy":[6]

JAQing off - 1. the act of spouting accusations while cowardly hiding behind the claim of "just asking questions." 2. asking questions and ignoring the answers. "He said he was going to present evidence, but instead he was just JAQing off."

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions

 

There are two perspectives on the holocaust, one is that 5-6 million Jews were systematically exterminated for being Jewish, the other is holocaust denial, you clearly fall into the latter category.

 

Asking questions is not a form of denial.

To suggest otherwise is a massive lie.

The fact that you need to lie in order to make your argument is quite telling.

Why so defensive? What are you hiding?

More lies.

Sad, yet entirely predictable.

 

No that would be you, again the Talmud is not a history book and bares no relevance to the topic at hand, the fact of the Holocaust is based on mountains of contemporary evidence.

 

Isn't it interesting how Mr. Face keeps citing a death toll with a million person uncertainty, yet I'm not allowed to ask a question without being labeled a Holocaust denier?

But there is no logic or reason to WWII propaganda narratives.

They are a religion at this point, not a historical topic subject to honest academic inquiry.

You're not even allowed to ask questions anymore, even if your opponents tacitly acknowledge a large amount of uncertainty in their own arguments.

Just be quiet and accept their religious dogma at face value.

It's best this way.

 

Nobody is lying, anyone can see right through your nonsense, you state it in the form of a question so you can laughably deny that you are a holocaust denier and not have to present any evidence to back your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) because you know it will be instantly debunked.

Do you question whether the trans-Atlantic slave trade happened? Do you question that the Spanish Inquisition was a historical event? Your "just asking questions" tactic is transparent and has already been shown for exactly what it is, a way for you to make your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claims without presenting evidence to back them up.

 

Yes, I have seen the propaganda. And I am fully aware of the history of eugenics.