Beyond Cold War to Mobilization for War Against Russia?

There is not going to be a war between the U.S. and Russia.

No matter what Putin might say....Putin is about MAKING MONEY!!

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That prize is purely political. Can you imagine someone like Obama getting the peace prize, when he still peddles the lie that Assad used chemical weapons even though he knows very well it was Al Nusra and the MIT. The man is a mass murderer ...as are the rest of that bunch in Washington.

I'm curious to see what's going to happen with the elections. Yesterday a racketeering lawsuit was filed against Clinton for election fraud, so if she is chosen anyway over Sanders who the majority of democrats want, we might end up in a civil war... although it would be fun watching her and Trump going at one another.

 

France, the U.K., Germany, the U.S. and Russia all detected the use of Chemical Weapons in Syria.

The chemical signature was that of Soviet supplied Chemical Weapons.

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I have to laugh. If you know something is black, you will say it's white and visa versa. Why?

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Oh now it's a new one... it's from the Soviet's no less.

 

Now a bit of reality Alpha:

Two members of the Turkish parliament gave a press conference this week saying that they have wiretapped recordings and other evidence showing that Turkey supplied the sarin used in Syria. As reported by Turkey’s largest newspapers, Today’s Zaman:

CHP deputies Eren Erdem and Ali Şeker held a press conference in İstanbul on Wednesday in which they claimed the investigation into allegations regarding Turkey’s involvement in the procurement of sarin gas which was used in the chemical attack on a civil population and delivered to the terrorist Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) to enable the attack was derailed.

Taking the floor first, Erdem stated that the Adana Chief Prosecutor’s Office launched an investigation into allegations that sarin was sent to Syria from Turkey via several businessmen. An indictment followed regarding the accusations targeting the government.

“The MKE [Turkish Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corporation] is also an actor that is mentioned in the investigation file. Here is the indictment. All the details about how sarin was procured in Turkey and delivered to the terrorists, along with audio recordings, are inside the file,” Erdem said while waving the file.

Erdem also noted that the prosecutor’s office conducted detailed technical surveillance and found that an al-Qaeda militant, Hayyam Kasap, acquired sarin, adding:

“Wiretapped phone conversations reveal the process of procuring the gas at specific addresses as well as the process of procuring the rockets that would fire the capsules containing the toxic gas. However, despite such solid evidence there has been no arrest in the case. Thirteen individuals were arrested during the first stage of the investigation but were later released, refuting government claims that it is fighting terrorism,” Erdem noted.

Over 1,300 people were killed in the sarin gas attack in Ghouta and several other neighborhoods near the Syrian capital of Damascus, with the West quickly blaming the regime of Bashar al-Assad and Russia claiming it was a “false flag” operation aimed at making US military intervention in Syria possible.

Suburbs near Damascus were struck by rockets containing the toxic sarin gas in August 2013.

The purpose of the attack was allegedly to provoke a US military operation in Syria which would topple the Assad regime in line with the political agenda of then-Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and his government.​

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015...ical-weapons-for-syrian-terrorist-attack.html

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-...ded-chemical-weapons-syrian-terrorist-attack/

https://off-guardian.org/2015/10/25...chemical-weapons-for-syrian-terrorist-attack/

 

Right before the U.S. invaded Iraq we as in me personally....watched a real time satellite feed as a large convoy of Iraqi trucks loaded with Saddam's Chemical Weapons traveled from Iraq and over the boarder into Syria.

Most of these Chemical Weapons were Soviet Made and supplied to Saddam from the Soviet Union years ago just before the Iran/Iraq war.

This surprised the HELL out of us because Assad's father and Syria was Saddam's sworn enemy.

Now France was the first to detect Chemical Weapons use by Assad and also the U.K., U.S. and Russia also detected their use.

The chemical signature of the weapons used shows they were Soviet Made and most likely came form Iraq.

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Now how about a bit of reality as to what is going on in Eastern Europe. It's a translation from Greek defense net. These exercises are a direct threat to Russia and its base at Kalinigrad...and so much so, that Lukashenko of Belarus addressed his people to let them know of his countries support for Russia in case of war. There are also anti Nato protests going on in Europe.

Right now there are gathered in Poland more than 30,000 NATO troops and heavy artillery, fighters and warships from 24 countries-members of the North Atlantic Alliance.

This exercise is code named Anakonda-16, and it is the largest concentration of troops in the region since the end of the Cold War.

According to the preliminary information, there are 1,000 British soldiers and more than 14,000 Americans in Poland.

The exercise will involve an additional 12,000 Poles and armies from countries such as Sweden and Finland.

There are exercises in the Baltic with the name «Baltops 2016» that started on June 3 and will last until June 18 in the southern part of the Baltic Sea. They have put the Russian forces on guard.

The naval forces will involve Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Spain, the United States and the United Kingdom.

There will be 50 warships from 18 NATO member and partner of the alliance, and 60 fighter jets, helicopters and unmanned aerial vehicles.

About 5,000 NATO troops are to take part in the exercise "Iron Wolf 2016". The first phase of the exercise will bring together soldiers from Lithuania, the US National Guard and Poland, Germany, Denmark, France, Luxembourg.

The US has developed armored Stryker vehicles, A-10 Warthog bombers and B-52 in Lithuania.

Germany sent armored Boxer and howitzers PzH Howitzer while Denmark armored Leopard.​

 

Yes, it is to those intelligent and rational thinkers among us, but you're forgetting the Doctor Strangelove Syndrome, where arrogance and delusion make the adherents totally oblivious to the inevitable consequences of their impulsive actions. I mean we have a few of them on this discussion board?

 

What, a politician focused on making money? That would never happen in a western country would it, only in Russia, and only Putin! Why don't you think before posting such unadulterated hate-driven garbage?

 

Probably because you didn't understand the politics of the region; and you still don't, which is why you keep (*)(*)(*)(*)ing up there! Jesus have you no common sense nor powers of analyses whatever? Time for a sig change . . .

 

I know the reality.

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No one could have guessed this would happen.

Saddam and the Assad Family were sworn Blood Enemies.

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So bloody what? WTF has that got to do with you? Just poke out of stuff you don't understand and the world will be a better place. Jesus H it's perfectly simple!

 

If you saw it, hence your President saw it. It is logical?....This is logical.

question for you :Why the United States invaded Iraq? Why not invaded Syria?
It's not personal. It's strictly logic.

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The technical term for your game-plan is Geo-Political Strategy.

Imagine that one day you could fly to Tripoli (Libya), then rent a car and drive to Vladivostok (Russia) via Cairo (Egypt), Tehran (Iran), Tashkent (Uzbekistan) and see nothing but McDonald's and Starsux.

That is your game-plan. That's been your game-plan since about 1976 or so.

You've invested $TRILLIONS and waste thousands of American lives already in furtherance of your goal, which is starting to come together at a faster rate.

The first thing you need to do is find a pretense to maintain a military presence indefinitely in the Middle East. That was the 1991 Persian Gulf War and the establishment of a No-Fly Zone in Iraq, which led to the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Regime change made sure Saddam would not ally with Russia.

The second thing you need to do is deny the Russians the use of any airbases or naval facilities in the Mediterranean Sea Region.

Yugoslavia castrated: Check
Libya regime change: Check
Tunisia regime change: Check
Syria regime change: In Progress

Once you've ousted Assad in Syria and taken control, that means Russia will never be able to base aircraft in Syria again or port ships in Syria, you'll move on Iran.

The most likely way you'll move on Iran is by backing the independence of the Balochs in Baluchistan. The ancient kingdom of Baluchistan's former territory has part in Pakistan, part in Iran and part in Afghanistan.

When the US takes control of Baluchistan, it will oust the Chinese who use and operate the Gwadar Port (a major coup for the US).

Once there's an independent Baluchistan carved out of Pakistan, the US will start arming the Iranian Balochs, foment revolution, then recognize their independence and union with Baluchistan, then probably establish a No-Fly Zone to protect the Balochs from Iranian military forces, so that the US can maintain an indefinite presence in the Persian Gulf/Indian Ocean Region.

That will allow the US to exert its hegemony over Central Asia, regaining control of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Tajikistan.

Once the US controls at least three of those 5 Central Asia States, the US can start arming ethnic groups in the eastern Russian republics, foment revolution, and then attempt to block any response by Russia, so that the US gains control of eastern Russia.

Ukraine will either remain as a "buffer-State" between NATO and Russia, or will be absorbed into NATO. In any event, Ukraine will probably be used as a base for No-Fly Zone operations in eastern Russia.

If Hillary is elected, you can rest assured she will step up operations against Syria to oust Assad to prepare the US to move on Iran.

Watch what happens.

 

You really want to know?

I will tell you.

It was thought the war in Afghanistan was too remote for the world media to cover overwhelming U.S. Military capability.

Thus Iraq was chosen as it was a large nation with a large Soviet/Russian supplied Military with front line Russian weapons systems.

It was for the purpose of a Demonstration.

As the U.S. Military cut through front line supplied Russian made weapons systems used by the Iraqi Military like a hot knife through war butter.

To this day the Russian Military calls the U.S. Conquest of Iraq the Russian War of Shame do to the extremely poor performance of Russian weapons systems and Russian Military tactics.

I was against invading Iraq as I knew just as Bush Sr. knew that Saddam's brutality was the only thing preventing a Sunni/Shia civil war.

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As I have said many times....I was against invading Iraq....but it was absolutely necessary as far as what we did in Afghanistan as we killed tens of thousands of the enemy in the first few weeks.

Then some idiots in DC decided to go Nation Building in a place still in the Stone Age!!!

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Pretty close.

But we have no intentions of trying to create insurgencies in Russia.

A stable Russian economy is in our best National interests.

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Well you were wrong - Saddam had to have his expansionist wings clipped for the future stability of the region. The mistake the west made was not getting the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of Iraq after we'd clipped them.

 

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Read more on UNIAN: http://www.unian.info/world/1034375-obama-says-russia-isolated-its-economy-in-tatters.html

http://www.unian.info/world/1034375-obama-says-russia-isolated-its-economy-in-tatters.html

 

Therefore Ukraine does and the Crimea and Donbas not play a role? Home - Russia dared to oppose the US plans.

 

and this - the noodles on the ears of liberal society?

 

Good for Russia, but the cards are stacked against them.

 

Oh, yes, you do.

 

You would be right if nato wasnt fragmented.

In theory nato strongest military force. In reality a group of nations held together by usa money.

As long as usa pays it hold. But moment money stop flowing. Nato dead.

Russia knows this. World does. Nato dead man walking.

 

NATO isn't relevant to US operational plans. Either Russia regains control of Central Asia, or Russia loses.

 

Russia can not lose because of the Central Asia. Russia can lose only because within themselves.Statistics say about it.