Game of Thrones Season 6 thread

I've not read the series, but my wife has and she says the scene is from a released chapter of the upcoming book.

Apparently the future can effect the past, but it still seems to be a case of it being always meant to be. Whatever change is made, was already made, so it's already happened. No free will, everything id predestination.

Of course, in a universe where there are prophecies, you kind of have to have a rigid timeline.

I think Hodor had one of the best story arcs of any of the characters so far. He had a destiny and he achieved it.

 

That's the way I see it as well. Bran can't really go back and change the past (like stopping his fathers execution) because it had already happened. Hodor was already Hodor. He had to be Hodor. Because if he wasn't then Bran never would have survived.

I think Hodor may very well be one of the greatest heros of Westeros. His sacrifice means Bran will live and give humanity a chance. And all he did was something as simple as holding a door.

 

Poor Hodor. He saw his own death and it scrambled his eggs for the rest of his life.. really sad. And all because of Bran's selfish curiosity...I wonder if he is going to end up being some type of reverse-Frodo and will be responsible for further major screwups.

 

I'm betting money that Bran is responsible for the Mad King.

They said he started going crazy when he heard voices in his head and we know the Targaryens are prone to having visions of the future. Ex Aegon and The Doom.

 

Arya ran from the Faceless Men they will hunt her down and kill her if she didn't die at the Waif's hands, and it seems no one will help her likely word got out she is person non-grata in the city by the Faith of the Many Faced God.

 

They're not going to kill her off like that, otherwise her (almost) entire storyline up until this point would have been meaningless and a waste of time.

 

That's what I thought about Rob's rebellion.

 

She will be rescued by the Actress, this is very obvious.

 

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The faithful of the Many Faced God v. The High Sparrow and his minions.

 

Except Robb's rebellion was incredibly important to kicking off many of the show's major story lines and plot developments. For example...

1. Jaime Lannister's capture and character development, which also brought him together with Brienne, which brought her to King's Landing, and then sent her out to look for the remaining Stark kids and saving Sansa.

2. It gave Theon Greyjoy the opportunity to capture Winterfell, which forced Bran and Rickon to flee, which took Bran north of the wall and ultimately to becoming the new three-eyed raven, and led to the capture of both Theon and Rickon by Ramsay Bolton.

3. It's also how Robb met and married Talisa, breaking his vow to marry Walder Frey's daughter, which lead to the red wedding, ending in Robb and Catelyn Stark's death, along with most of the northern army.

And those are just the first few I can think of off the top of my head.

The same cannot be said for Arya so far. The major points in her storyline consist of saving Jaqen H'ghar, and contributing to The Hound's almost-death (and subsequent character development as seen in last week's episode) by Brienne. Actually, saving Jaqen really only served to further Arya's own storyline, so I'm not sure that can even be counted. She hasn't had much affect on other people/plots so far.

 

The leader of the Faceless Men will come out to kill her and he is clearly deadly and versed in many ways to kill, she is toast. And they are still obligated to kill the Actress so he will likely take her out first. Her best bet leave for one of the exotic lands where she can hide with some chance of not being found.

 

Ok. Does anyone think that the story ark in Riverrun was absolutely retarded? I mean seriously. What the hell was the point? A quick reunion of Brenn and Jamie and that's it? How are you going to return such an awesome character, build up so much hype that finally someone not only is trying but actual has the power to at least fight back against the Lanisters and Freys, build up even more hype with that awesome scene last episode between the Blackfish and Jamie, and then just end it all with some guy walking up to the gates and saying "put down your weapons". That's it. End of story. All done. Oh wait. No it's not. Then you go and kill the Blackfish OFF SCREEN! What the actual (*)(*)(*)(*)? This episode pissed me off more then the Umbers betraying the Starks (at this point iv given up all hope on the great northern conspiracy)

The Riverrun ark line was (*)(*)(*)(*) poor story telling despite having some of the best scenes of the last 2 episodes.

 

The writing the past 3 episodes has been kinda sh!t. Arya turned out to have been spending all that time in Braavos for next to no payoff. I did like the return of The Hound but that massacre at the end of ep7 was revealed in the next episode to have been purely for shock value.

I did enjoy the scenes in KL this week though. Although they have dashed hopes for Cleganebowl under a trial by combat, I thought that was a decent bit of writing in an episode which was honestly pretty bad by GoT standards. Also, did the Mountain rip that FM guy's skull off of his neck? Because I mean we've seen his particular flavor of brutality before, but that's still pretty impressive if it is the case.

 

I'm pretty sure the main point of her being in Braavos was to receive all that training. She'll be a formidable fighter/assassin now. We just haven't gotten to the real payoff yet.

I don't think that's the case either. I think that was meant to lead him back to, and join, the Brotherhood Without Banners. For what purpose though, we haven't learned yet.

 

I will only say 3 things, so I don't give anything away for those that have not seen tonights episode yet:

Nom Nom Nom

 

I think this was the best episode in a very very long time. One more to go, then we wait another darn year.

 

Ramsay Bolton got Littlefinger'd.



I'm guessing this means that Lord Baelish's Palpatine-like machinations are going to make him one of the main villains in Season 7 (along with Night King and Euron Greyjoy)

 

I was waiting for the guy who brought Tommin Stark to Ramsey to turn and do a double cross like they hinted in the books.

I think they have foreshadowed a lot of this season. If you thought John Snow was going to die again, you haven't been paying attention to the three eye raven arc. The guess of who the third living targarian for me is Tyrian. Either him or the girl with Bran Stark beyond the wall.

 

To be fair, last night the show runners trolled us with Jon's potential death at least twice. I was definitely worried for a bit.

 

Yeah, they did a great job with the battle scenes.

 

Thought Snow was a goner. . .that scene made feel claustrophobic.

 

Read a fan theory that Sansa should probably bite it on the season finale. Reason? Last season, Cersi promised Winterfell and the title Warden of the North to Littlefinger as long as he put Sansa's head on a pike. Well now, Littlefinger's Vale troops are occupying Winterfell. Things could get ugly...

 

Wait until word comes that Dany is on the move and heading for Westeros, the king will pee all over the Iron Throne. And my guess soon the assault of the Night King on the Wall will happen soon as well and the Night's Watch will be asking for help. But I agree Sansa will be forced to marry Littlefinger or be killed.

 

Cersei has little power to enforce anything; Baelish would probably have no need to kill Sansa. I don't even think he wants to, he seems really attracted to her and at least somewhat concerned about her well-being (key word "seems") otherwise he could have denied to formally help Jon's army but still have shown up at the same point during the battle in order to "seize Winterfell from whichever thief remains" (or so he tells Cersei). I honestly think that his decision to give Sansa to Ramsay was simply bad writing rather than Littlefinger knowing she would be tortured/abused.

But yeah I agree that the basic idea of LF wanting to be named Warden of the North and taking Sansa as his wife to cement his claim is probably true. We will see.

 

Littlefinger wants Sansa as his wife. He was in love with her mother..and sees Sansa AS Caitlyn, whom he lost to Eddard. He won't kill her. And I don't think he knew how Ramsey would treat her when he set all that up. Now he knows. And he wants her for himself...and Winterfell as well.