Istanbul Attackers - The Moscow Connection

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  1. El Kabosh

    El Kabosh Well-Known Member

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    The fact remains that these "nations" are all part of the Russian empire and should be treated as part & parcel of the same snake.
     
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    Everyone sees how you treat Chataev. He got political asylum in Europe. And then blew up the airport. He was a moderate rebel, didn't you know?
     
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    MrFirst Banned Past Donor

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    Hot news: Akhmed Chatayev held Austrian citizenship.

    He was Austrian. He was (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Austrian! :roflol:
     
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    MrFirst Banned Past Donor

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    Austrian payback for Turkey for... for what?
     
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    MrFirst Banned Past Donor

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    Terrorist attack by the Austrians is quite surprising!

    He was Austrian.
     
  6. El Kabosh

    El Kabosh Well-Known Member

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    It's not surprising when you understand that you can take Chatayev out of Russia but it's much harder to take Russia out of Chatayev. And its not surprising for terrorists seek asylum in the very nations they plan to assault. In the end, it was still a terrorist attach by a Russian.
     
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    Actually, the article says Russia couldn't take Chatayev out of Europe, where he travelled freely.

    Nice lunacy. Have any real examples of such a strange behaviour?

    Austria, Bulgaria, Georgia, your lovely nazi Ukraine sheltered the man who was arranging terrorists net all over Europe, who blew up the airport and who killed many people. They together "saved" him from Russia. That's what happened. Keep thinking your lunacy dreams, it makes me laugh.
     
  8. El Kabosh

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    "Passion makes idiots of the cleverest men, and makes the biggest idiots clever."
    - Francois de La Rochefoucauld
     
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    Primitive English, which does not allow to distinguish between nationality and citizenship of person :) Russian as a citizen of Russia ("Rossiyanin") and Russian as having Russian nationality ("Russkiy") in the English language equivalent...

    Chataev was Rossiyanin, but not Russkiy.

    Russia is home to more than 40 million Russians by citizenship ("Rossiyans") but not Russian nationality ("non Russkiyes"). For example, take 2 million Ukrainians who have Russian citizenship and living in Russia. They are Russians or Ukrainians? :)

    The same problem in English with many nationalities. Take, for example, the Jews as a nation (the "Evrei" in Russian), and Jews as representatives of Judaism, the religion of Israel (Russian - "Iudei").

    This allows to make a lot of accusations without real reason.
     
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    He was Islamic State. That's all we need to know!
     
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    LOL chechnya is part of the Russian Federation.
     
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    Bottom linend KGB and FSB along with their clients Saddam and Assad created ISIS.
     
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    And Turkey is a reliable source of unbiased facts? I think not.
     
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    No they didn't, Wahhabism, the reactionary branch of Islam created ISIS, so it has more to do with Saudi Arabia than Iraq or Syria. That's why Assad has been trying to keep them out of Syria for the past 5 years?? The West is too effing stupid to realise it, but he's been doing us a big favour, otherwise IS would well and truly settled in their Caliphate by now.
     
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    Chatayev worked for Saakashvili's investigation

    The possible organizer of the terrorist attack in Istanbul worked for the Georgian intelligence when Mikheil Saakashvili held country's presidential post. The chairman of parliamentary committee on defense and national safety Irakli Sesiashvili on air of "Rustavi 2" has told about it. According to him, Ahmed Chatayev had the Georgian passport with which he left to various countries for performance of tasks.

    // http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2771920&2771920
     
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    He was refugee to Austria and protected by Red Cross.
     
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    The Ukrainian army consists of terrorist volunteers who were supported by Turkey with the hope of taking back Crimea. There are no Ukrainian conscripts anymore, they all left except for the Banderite Nazis in the National Guard and paramilitary units. Most went to Russia to work so they can support their families, or joined the Russian army with the hope of freeing their homeland. The others went to Poland or Hungary.

    That has ended now because the Tatars have publicly stated that Crimea is part of Russia and that the will of the people living there must be accepted by all parties. This might be why Victoria Nuland freaked with Erdogan's 'apology'.

    It's surprising that Erdogan acquiesced to all of Russia's demands. Is he fearful that Washington and Israel want to break Turkey up the way they are trying to do to Syria and Iraq... as some Turks have stated? He believes and rightfully so, that Washington's plan is to create a Kurd corridor that will stretch from Barzani's Iraq to the Mediterranean for the oil to flow. This threatens Turkey's integrity since it borders their own Kurd areas.

    The only way Erdogan can prevent this is by reuniting his friendship with Syria since Assad wouldn't want to lose part of his country to the Kurds ...which would account for him to turning to Russia. I'm only guessing about this, but it seems the most logical reason for his turn about.

     
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    Thanks for the information. As for the forum trolls and their 'flipping', try to ignore them ...everyone else does.
     
  19. El Kabosh

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    I am suspicious that there is more of a connection between Putin's Russia and ISIS than meets the eye.
    Russia has the most to gain from international chaos....and the West the most to lose. Perhaps we need to look to the East for the seeds of the world's current turmoil.
     
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    https://www.amnesty.org/en/search/?q=Chataev
    On 14 January 2010 the European Court of Human Rights called upon the Ukrainian authorities not to extradite an ethnic Chechen man, Ahmed Chataev, to Russia until further notice. Ahmed Chataev has been granted refugee status in Austria and was visiting the Ukraine with a valid visa when he was arrested on January 3. Amnesty International believes that if he is returned to Russia, he could face an unfair trial and would be at risk of torture and other ill-treatment.
    amnesty international
     
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    And Chechnya is part of the Russian Federation, he was Russian.
     
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    Crimea is illegally occupied Ukrainian territory and Russia is perpetrating a war crime.
     
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    Stalin was a citizen of the Russian Empire he was Russian.
     
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    He was a Russian criminal. But Europe saved him. Good job.
     
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    So, because my Polish ancestors left the Austrian Empire, I'm Austrian rather than Polish?

    Wow, talk about a way to insult.
     

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