Which is more barbaric, ISIS's boiling people alive or Jesus' boiling people alive?

1. "ISIS fighters boiled alive after fleeing battlefield in Iraq"
http://www.wydailynews.com/trending...-alive-after-fleeing-battlefield-in-iraq.html
Were they trying to emulate Jesus (who is the messiah in their religion - "Isa")
2. God/Jesus will see that people who simply don't think like him are boiled alive in a "lake of fire", according to the Bible (Revelation 19, 20, 21.) He's all-powerful, so of course he could stop it, but he's not loving enough to do that.

Question: Who is more barbaric in this regard, ISIS or Jesus?


Me, I'd have to say that clearly the torturer from Nazareth is far more barbaric than even the most barbaric terrorist group we've ever seen (ISIS), because:
1. While the ISIS torture might last a day at most, Jesus' sadistic torture is for much much longer. He's far far more sadistic than ISIS. God/Jesus could have limited it to only as long as ISIS, but they are not as compassionate as ISIS.

2. Jesus will torture about 70 billion people and counting....ISIS - only a handful.....so Jesus is far more brutal than ISIS.

3. ISIS tortured these people for deserting in battle (punishable in the US, even), but Jesus can simply punish for thinking differently than him(!) - "I don't believe in a talking dead guy as it's unscientific" - making him far far worse than ISIS in this horrific example.

4. Jesus incredibly, hypocritically, claimed to be a moral teacher, so his torture is even morally reprehensible. ISIS only wants to follow their prophet (Mohammad's) example.

5. Jesus hates all Muslims (non-believers, they) and will see that they get brutally tortured, but ISIS loves Muslims, so ISIS is far more moral than Jesus.


But what about you?

 

Not Jesus.

Considering the vast majority of things attributed to him aren't real it can't be him.

 

If the Bible is true (for argument's sake), and he and his dad see that all non-believers get roasted alive ala ISIS, would you condemn god/Jesus like I do as a barbarian worse than ISIS?

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Like magically "coming back to life to give us eternal life"?

 

Then God/Jesus would be worse because people who go against God's wishes would be tortured for eternity for something as petty as not believing in Christianity.

However, since Jesus wasn't real, at least how the Bible portrays him, ISIS is far worse.

 

i see the kiddies are at it again. if you are going to practice this sort of childish mental masturbation in the forums, please put it in the "religion" sub-forum where it belongs.

 

Well seeing Jesus isnt real and ISIS is...id have to sayISIS.

 

im going with the one that isnt pretend.

 

Jesus stole that idea from the Egyptians, who believed in eternal life more than three millennia before his birth.

 

So true.
Best post of the day.

 

ISIS, our enemy in this war, is very very political. You seem to be under the impression that Islam is not a POLITICAL system as well - you want to conveniently brush away the POLITICAL aspect of our enemy's religion. You need to be educated as to the POLITICAL aspects of Islamic LAW...Islamic LAW, not just Islamic RELIGION. You seem to think the taking on the enemy IDEOLOGICALLY is a waste of time - your solution is probably the same as Obama's: to bomb them from 30,000', and we've seen up to 1100 (according to human rights groups) innocent civilians die as a result. Your unwillingness to realize that religion is indeed political may well cost innocent people their lives. Time to wake up and smell the Jihad (Jihad is political, so of course it belongs on a "Political Opinions & Beliefs" sub-forum. You also don't seem to realize that Christian's inability to attack a fellow Abrahamic faith is part of the reason we can't take on the POLITICS/religion (remember, they are linked in the case of Islam) of our enemy....and guess who is the messiah in both belief systems.....Jesus/Isa, that's who.

Have a great day.

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I like how you think.

So like Joseph Smith and Mohammad, Jesus just piggy-backed on an existing religion to get people to like him? (In other words he's a fraud, and not really the one and only "son of god", then.)

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As usual, you are right, Alpha. Good to see you on a thread.

Sadly, about 70% of Americans believe that a fairy tale is real, and it's costing us dearly in our INability to prosecute this war ideologically - they are running interference for another Abrahamic faith as they can't stand faith itself to be attacked.

 

Jesus is getting pounded on this thread....too bad he can't defend himself because he's not actually real (just like Allah, and all the other gods.) Is it fair to pound someone who can't even defend themselves? I sometimes feel guilty because he's not actually real, but his followers (I used to be one) falsely believe that he is real, and worst of all that they'll magically survive their own deaths by simply "believing in him" - now if THAT isn't "too good to be true, then it probably is" then I don't know what would be!

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My gut feeling, by your reply, is that you are one of the people on this forum that won't, can't, even when asked, condemn Mohammad for advocating totalitarian Sharia Law, and can't condemn Muslims for thinking that Mohammad is the #1 role model of all time - even though he was a rapist, murderer, pedophile, said to kill gays, robber, torturer, etc. Am I right?

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Yep. Christianity stole a lot from the Egyptians. Egyptians showed gods with a sun disk over their heads. Christians moved that disk to behind the heads, and voila, a halo. Isis and Horus = Mary and Jesus. Judgement day? Egyptian. Ten commandments? Read the Book of the Dead. Lots more. Plenty of reading for everybody! Lol.

Religious beliefs evolve, as with everything else.

 

The ancient economy changed drastically in the middle East with the advent of Greek, then Roman rule. The art of mummification became lost, and with other ways to make money, heck, belief it is! (Much easier that way. Plus, you get to sell or pass on your wealth, rather than have it stolen by tomb robbers.)

 

Isis and Christians combined can't even touch the barbarism of the atheists.

 

I agree that the communists and totalitarians are barbarians - that's why I chose Modern Secular Humanism with it's love of democracy (representative republics)....Jesus/Mohammad didn't understand democracy, as they were not really prophets of an all-knowing all-caring creator of the entire universe. Render unto Saddam, is what Jesus basically taught.

 

The barbarians were not atheists (though Pliny the elder was!)

 

Bottom line: Jesus was a con man (carpentry back in those days was real hard work, better to have people put you up and feed you and worship you by thinking you were a magic "son of god" - beats a real job any day!)

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You clearly don't get it that we are in a RELIGIOUS war.....and war is politics of course.

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So can we assume that in your world proper sub-forum selection is more of a priority than boiling people alive is?

 

Freedom does not believe in Jesus so this is yet another thread who's only goal is to bash Christianity.

 

Lots of bashing going on. Where have you been?

 

Why would a sane person believe that simply believing in a magic invisible talking dead guy who is so immoral that if you think differently than him (no matter how ethical you might be) it's perfectly ok that you'll get boiled alive like ISIS does? I'm at a loss for an explanation.

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You are more concerned about the mere messenger (me) pointing out boiling alive (like terrorists ISIS/Jesus do) than you are about the actual boiling alive itself. Time to go home and rethink your life, I'm afraid, my friend.

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Yes.
When you believe that the best person of all time ("Jesus") is perfectly ok with boiling people alive then of course the bashing will follow - it's just the way the world works. Terrorists like ISIS/Jesus need to be "bashed".

 

Jesus stole that one too, but I can't remember from whom. Mithra's birthday is December 25th. That I remember. Lol.

 

The Ten Commandments are found in Exodus 34:10-28. I'm sure that the Egyptians didn't follow those.

 

And don't forget that when Jesus returns he will torture everyone, destroy the environment, kill all life, and blow up the planet. He's not a nice guy.

 

There are plenty of Christians who do not believe in a hell where people boil and there is plenty of evidence for that argument which anyone who has studied the bible even a little bit would know.

 

The biblical hell is temporary. Everyone makes bail on Judgment Day. As you know, there are only three places you can go when you die. These are death, the sea, and hell. On Judgment Day everyone gets out and sees the judge. Hell and death are tossed into the lake of fire. So if you have been in hell you won't go back to hell. In fact, you might even get into the golden cube called New Jerusalem but only if you are a member of one of the twelve tribes of Israel. If you are and if your name is written in the book of life you can pass through your tribe's pearly gate into the golden cube. If your name isn't in the book of life you get tossed into the lake of fire.

It's all in the fairy tale.